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Reply #105 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:15pm
 

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Reply #106 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:15pm:


So what? They kill gays in Saudi, why shoudn't we do it, right?
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Reply #107 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:26pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 1:15pm:


So what? They kill gays in Saudi, why shoudn't we do it, right?



It shows that whatever we do is only symbolic.
It's a drop in the ocean compared to countries like China.
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Reply #108 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 2:47pm
 
The lefty's like making the most noise - like empty vessels.
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Reply #109 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:12pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 2:47pm:
The lefty's like making the most noise - like empty vessels.


While flat-earth central bankers and their NAIRU neo-liberal market dogmas are silently responsible for the greatest economic catastrophes, without you having a clue....

https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2022/06/09/inflation-stupidities...

Alan Kohler: The two great stupidities behind our inflation.
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Reply #110 - Jun 10th, 2022 at 6:57pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
While flat-earth central bankers and their NAIRU neo-liberal market dogmas are silently responsible for the greatest economic catastrophes, without you having a clue....


Never mind. You want to try an unproven hypothesis instead of one that has a few problems. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #111 - Jun 11th, 2022 at 9:26pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 6:57pm:
Never mind. You want to try an unproven hypothesis instead of one that has a few problems. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Only a flat-earth, comfortable conservative could assert we have "a few problems" ..... and should therefore stick with the obsolete flat-earth neoliberal economics as practiced by the "druids" of the reserve bank..and the consequent  stupidities correctly identified by Kohler. 

...eg prices of fuel and food rising, due to covid blockages and  and war?  - good,  jack up interest rates, that will fix supply problems.....
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Reply #112 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 12:58pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 11th, 2022 at 9:26pm:
Only a flat-earth, comfortable conservative could assert we have "a few problems" ..... and should therefore stick with the obsolete flat-earth neoliberal economics as practiced by the "druids" of the reserve bank..and the consequent  stupidities correctly identified by Kohler.



Only a nincompoop would argue that they are more than few. Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 11th, 2022 at 9:26pm:
eg prices of fuel and food rising, due to covid blockages and  and war?  - good,  jack up interest rates, that will fix supply problems.....


So you believe in interest rates below 3%? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Never mind the great god Keating who had home loan rates at 17%. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #113 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 1:39pm
 
Atomic batteries might force Petrol prices wayyyyyyyyyyyy up as the Oil Companies go all out to get what they can before they hit the obsolete pile.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #114 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 1:41pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 10th, 2022 at 2:47pm:
The lefty's like making the most noise - like empty vessels.


The Greens have Albanese over a barrel.

The Greens are in charge now.
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Reply #115 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 1:49pm
 
Soon the Cheer Mob will take over through the Greens.
I would like to see that. Australia ruled by the Cheer Mob.
I wonder how they would go ruling 24 million people from around the world, now that it isn't like it was before 1788?

Give the Cheer Mob a 'fair go'. Let's see how they go? Wink
...give em what they want. Cheesy
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Reply #116 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 12:58pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 11th, 2022 at 9:26pm:
Only a flat-earth, comfortable conservative could assert we have "a few problems" ..... and should therefore stick with the obsolete flat-earth neoliberal economics as practiced by the "druids" of the reserve bank..and the consequent  stupidities correctly identified by Kohler.


Only a nincompoop would argue that they are more than few. Grin Grin Grin Grin


https://www.visionofhumanity.org/climate-change-induced-drought-destabilising-gl...

"Global Drought Caused by Climate Change Can Lead to Conflict".

"There is mounting evidence that climate change is creating the conditions for instability and poverty, two significant contributors to the outbreak of civil war and violence.
  (eg, in  Syria Yemen and Africa)

and

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202206/1267684.shtml

The three-month-old conflict brings new bloodshed and suffering for those on the ground. For people around the world, the conflict, together with the other crises, is threatening to unleash "an unprecedented wave of hunger and destitution, leaving social and economic chaos in its wake," the UN Chief said at the launch of a second report by the Global Crisis Response Group on Food, Energy and Finance over the Ukraine conflict.

Easy to see who the "nincompook" is...

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So you believe in interest rates below 3%? Grin Grin Grin Grin


Interest rates should be near zero...as they have been since the GFC....and in Japan since their 90's property crash.   

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Never mind the great god Keating who had
home loan rates at 17%. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Keating was a 'flat-earth' neoliberal who - like you - has no understanding of money creation in the public sector.
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Reply #117 - Jun 12th, 2022 at 3:46pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm:
"Global Drought Caused by Climate Change Can Lead to Conflict".


So what is this GLOBAL drought? Any drought can cause conflict. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm:
The three-month-old conflict brings new bloodshed and suffering for those on the ground. For people around the world, the conflict, together with the other crises, is threatening to unleash "an unprecedented wave of hunger and destitution, leaving social and economic chaos in its wake," the UN Chief said at the launch of a second report by the Global Crisis Response Group on Food, Energy and Finance over the Ukraine conflict.


Nothing to do with drought then. Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm:
Easy to see who the "nincompook" is...


You mean you because you can't spell properly? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm:
Interest rates should be near zero...as they have been since the GFC....and in Japan since their 90's property crash.   



And Japan has been desperately trying to fix that. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm:
Keating was a 'flat-earth' neoliberal who - like you - has no understanding of money creation in the public sector.


As opposed to you who just have no understanding at all. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #118 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 9:56am
 
Schott explained why Australia needed an enormous expansion of the national power grid.

“The way you deal with intermittency is first of all by having a lot of transmission to add renewable capacity, and to use different weather patterns across the network.”

Power generated in different regions and states could be fed to areas where wind and solar was underperforming on a particular day. In other words, we will build far more generation capacity than we need and far more transmission than fossil fuels need just to keep renewables reliable. We will then need to add tens of billions in storage technology for nights and cold winters.

Climate writers regularly repeat another left-wing lie: that Australia needs to phase out reliance on coal and gas exports because fossil fuels will soon be stranded assets as the world moves to 100 per cent renewables. Yet thermal coal and gas prices are at all-time record highs. The two fastest-growing carbon dioxide emitters, China and India, plan to keep lifting coal generation (China by 300 million tonnes a year and India from one billion to 1.5 billion tonnes a year).

Global emissions, despite $US2 trillion spent on renewables, rose 6 per cent last year to 36.3 billion tonnes. Australian emissions actually fell 3.2 per cent, even though culture-warring climate writers, the Greens and teals claim we are falling behind. The public would not know it from following most media but Australia is on track to meet its Paris 2030 emissions reduction targets while most of the big-emitting nations are not.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/left-media-keep-public-in-dark-on-renewables/news-story/9ecd1d1b0208d86d885e46d301203169
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Reply #119 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 3:21pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 3:46pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 12th, 2022 at 2:57pm:
"Global Drought Caused by Climate Change Can Lead to Conflict".


So what is this GLOBAL drought? Any drought can cause conflict. Roll Eyes


That reply explains a lot ...the 2 sentences are identical in meaning.

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Nothing to do with drought then. Grin Grin Grin Grin


Drought causes conflict, and conflict leads to price rises for energy and food.

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You mean you because you can't spell properly? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Running out of debating ability?

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And Japan has been desperately trying to fix that. Roll Eyes

..by NOT raising interest rates which would make things worse, obviously. Note: Japan's GDP has hardly changed at all, since the 90's property and market  crash.   

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As opposed to you who just have no understanding at all. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


I'll go with Kohler and Mitchell before your flat-earth neoliberal economics any time.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/180

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