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Reply #15 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:19pm
 
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Feeding animals does set up a pattern, even to the extreme of dependence.


Fishermen are not there to feed the sharks.

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It's those Fishermen at Cottesloe chumming the Sharks in that causes these attacks.


How do you know this?
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Reply #16 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:45pm
 
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Re: Shark Fishing advantages/disadvantages
Reply #17 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 2:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:39pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Chumming does not set up a feeding pattern. Any shark silly enough to feed gets killed. Or at least, has a very bad day.



All these sharks are congregated around a chum bucket.Do you think the fishermen caught them all?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sharks-congregating-around-chum-bucket-pict
ure-id135514547?s=2048x2048


They are scuba divers John, not fishermen. You can clearly see them in the photo.

But even they would try to avoid giving the sharks a feed.



so you made up a claim that any shark to feed on a chum gets killed ehh?

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Reply #18 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 2:18pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 2:05pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:39pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Chumming does not set up a feeding pattern. Any shark silly enough to feed gets killed. Or at least, has a very bad day.



All these sharks are congregated around a chum bucket.Do you think the fishermen caught them all?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sharks-congregating-around-chum-bucket-pict
ure-id135514547?s=2048x2048


They are scuba divers John, not fishermen. You can clearly see them in the photo.

But even they would try to avoid giving the sharks a feed.



so you made up a claim that any shark to feed on a chum gets killed ehh?

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You are confused John.

What do you mean by "to feed on a chum"?
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Reply #19 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 4:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 2:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 2:05pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:18pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:39pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 12:32pm:
Chumming does not set up a feeding pattern. Any shark silly enough to feed gets killed. Or at least, has a very bad day.



All these sharks are congregated around a chum bucket.Do you think the fishermen caught them all?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sharks-congregating-around-chum-bucket-pict
ure-id135514547?s=2048x2048


They are scuba divers John, not fishermen. You can clearly see them in the photo.

But even they would try to avoid giving the sharks a feed.



so you made up a claim that any shark to feed on a chum gets killed ehh?

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You are confused John.

What do you mean by "to feed on a chum"?



to feed on chum

chum is burley Fd .

What sort of fisherman doesn't know what chum is? Did you lie about your fishing exploits too?
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Reply #20 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 4:24pm
 
Yes John. Fishermen always talk about sharks feeding on a chum, don't they?
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Reply #21 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 4:26pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 4:24pm:
Yes John. Fishermen always talk about sharks feeding on a chum, don't they?



All the fishermen I know certainly know what chum is. Perhaps you should try fishing somewhere other than in your fish tank?
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Reply #22 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 4:28pm
 
Thanks John. Wonderful to hear from someone who knows a fisherman.
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Reply #23 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 5:03pm
 
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Reply #24 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 7:30pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:19pm:
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Feeding animals does set up a pattern, even to the extreme of dependence.


Fishermen are not there to feed the sharks.

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It's those Fishermen at Cottesloe chumming the Sharks in that causes these attacks.


How do you know this?

Yes they are - otherwise, because they are crap Fisherman, they wouldn't be able to catch their sharks.

Also - I know everything FD. Wink
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Reply #25 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 7:52pm
 
It would be silly to chum very close to the beach.

The burley will attract sharks that are already in the area. If it is done away from the beach it will not attract sharks to the beach.

The primary reason for sharks coming to the beach is the migration of the fish the sharks like to eat going to the beach. Anyone who fishes knows when this is.

In WA a lot of attacks coincide with the salmon migration. The king fish migration in the south and east is also popular with sharks but not sure that it causes many problems.

A year or so back a surfer got grabbed by a shark in the close to beach channel at my local beach. It occurred when there was a large school or large Taylor in the area.

And yes surfers do attract sharks but most do not see the shark have a quick look and move on. The majority of sharks are not interested in people.

Few years ago I seen a pod of about 6 killer whales cruising up the coast, (very rare - I had never heard of it before) They would have swum past a group of surfers within about 10 metres. Not sure if the surfers seen them or not.
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Reply #26 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 8:10pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 7:30pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 13th, 2022 at 1:19pm:
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Feeding animals does set up a pattern, even to the extreme of dependence.


Fishermen are not there to feed the sharks.

Quote:
It's those Fishermen at Cottesloe chumming the Sharks in that causes these attacks.


How do you know this?

Yes they are - otherwise, because they are crap Fisherman, they wouldn't be able to catch their sharks.

Also - I know everything FD. Wink


For the most part, they do not simply throw meat in the water for the sharks to eat. They use things that generate a lot of smell. A lot buy oil. Some put burley in a retrievable bucket. When they do throw meat in, it is usually a small quantity, chopped finely. The bait fish eat most of it.
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Reply #27 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 8:37pm
 
Wether they get a tender morsel of flesh to chew on, what matters is indeed the attractive 'scent' to the 'possibility' of something to eat. It's a natural behaviour for Sharks.
Now if there is plenty of 'consistent' scent along a beach, then - they will search for the 'meat'. Just ask 'Bruce' what 'scent' can do for a Shark. Wink

There are 'many' reasons why a Shark can attack humans.
Making the local beach 'smell enticing' though - doesn't help the cause.

Why was one South African Surfer attacked by GWS's at least 5 times, with one time caught on video of two Great Whites hitting his board at the same time... while other Surfer's were not, even though 'with him'?
...his answer was because he drank a lot of beer and always pissed in the water/his wettie.
So one must guess that he smells better than the others, smells more 'animal' than the other boards.

I suggest you try an experiment FD and go spearfishing in a very chummed up area and see what sharks do appear and how they behave around you, even if you have no fish on the end of your spear. Come back and give us your results.
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Reply #28 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 8:42pm
 
The sharks are always there Jasin. It's just whether they let you see them or not.
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Reply #29 - Feb 13th, 2022 at 8:49pm
 
True. Most seem pretty shy when I dive.
Though I did have a Grey Nurse sneak up behind me at Bushrangers to be just a foot away from my head, when I suddenly turned as if something was behind me. Shocked

Then there was that big Wobby with his mouth open behind a rock, which I thought was a big white new species of sponge - to which I moved in for a closer look until realisation dawned on me that my head was almost inside its mouth.

...but the main thing is that there was no chum, burley or any other enticing scent in the water to arouse a shark's appetite.  Wink
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