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Reply #45 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 10:18am

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

The “Voices” movement is behaving more like a new political party, funded largely by the Climate 200 organisation, and specifically targeting Coalition seats rather than Labor’s.

Their focus on delivering stronger emissions-reduction policies is farcical given they are seeking to defeat some of the most moderate, pro-climate action politicians in the Coalition camp.

Their real strategy is to render the Coalition incapable of forming a majority, then looking to implement their agenda in concert with a Labor-Greens government. The Voices candidates can perhaps best be described as Greens without a visceral hatred of capitalism and country. They are the feral left, but with Fendi.

If the trend to independents continues, we could see the minor-party intransigence of the Senate infect the House of Representatives. The frustrating characteristics of the house of review could render the house of government almost unworkable – perhaps 2010 was our test drive.

Climate 200 is the political fund established by Simon Holmes a Court, the son of Australia’s first billionaire, Robert Holmes a Court, of Bell Resources fame. Paradoxically, the inherited wealth the son has marshalled to support his climate activism was derived in large part from his father’s oil and gas investments.
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Reply #46 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:00am

LNP never again wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 10:18am:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 10:14am:

The “Voices” movement is behaving more like a new political party, funded largely by the Climate 200 organisation, and specifically targeting Coalition seats rather than Labor’s.

Their focus on delivering stronger emissions-reduction policies is farcical given they are seeking to defeat some of the most moderate, pro-climate action politicians in the Coalition camp.

Their real strategy is to render the Coalition incapable of forming a majority, then looking to implement their agenda in concert with a Labor-Greens government. The Voices candidates can perhaps best be described as Greens without a visceral hatred of capitalism and country. They are the feral left, but with Fendi.

If the trend to independents continues, we could see the minor-party intransigence of the Senate infect the House of Representatives. The frustrating characteristics of the house of review could render the house of government almost unworkable – perhaps 2010 was our test drive.

Climate 200 is the political fund established by Simon Holmes a Court, the son of Australia’s first billionaire, Robert Holmes a Court, of Bell Resources fame. Paradoxically, the inherited wealth the son has marshalled to support his climate activism was derived in large part from his father’s oil and gas investments.
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Yet in the looming federal election there are a clutch of new “Voices of … Independents” and the main climate organisation that is co-ordinating and funding them has Oakeshott and Windsor on board as advisers. I kid you not, the two conservatives-turned-independents who ruined their careers by installing a hapless Labor government are now strategic advisers to political neophytes aiming to repeat the dose.

Until now the Gillard government – built on deals with independents and Greens that delivered broken promises and shambolic government – probably was the nadir of our terrible decade and a half of governance since John Howard lost in 2007.

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Reply #48 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:51pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 7:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 11^th, 2022 at 6:55pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 10^th, 2022 at 9:08pm:

Not prepared to list these special 'rights' that women should have then?

any and all of them.. you can list them if you like, it won't change anything. Your complaint will remain the same regardless of what they ask for.

It's not my complaints you should be worried about - it's theirs and the way they shift the goal posts every time some idiot gives in to them.

In Woglandia, of course, if a woman gets uppity they just cut her throat.... here we try reason and facts - something alien to any ideologue. Reason and facts means nothing to a rabid narcissistic lunatic...

*kissess off fingers** Ah, Woglandia - Taliban rape, women die for family 'honour'..... and here we pamper them like babies ... treat them as children.... woman cries rape - man dies socially and economically ....

Stoopid is as stoopid does, sah!

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Reply #49 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:59pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:00am:

that delivered broken promises and shambolic government

have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot

No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

Yet the potential to plumb new depths is clear. Like the pandemic, our polity could soon experience a more contagious variant of viral dysfunction.

The major parties are largely to blame, ceaselessly making themselves less compelling. Under Rudd, Labor brought the superficial, poll-driven and media-enslaved state political model to Canberra – conviction was tossed overboard in favour of trying to be all things to all people.

And since Tony Abbott’s crushing conviction victory in 2013, the Coalition has wandered down the same path, led by its increasingly dominant moderate wing, aimlessly searching for the next compromise or headline. Parliament House has been overtaken by invertebrates.

The independents are partly the cause but also the beneficiaries in this dynamic. Many key elements of Abbott’s strongly conservative budget were blocked in 2014 thanks to the likes of Clive Palmer and Nick Xenophon; this in turn has encouraged the Coalition to shy away from firm action and tough debates, leading to disenchantment and a fracturing of the conservative vote.

One Nation, Palmer and the Liberal independents are all working on that flank. Think of the Queensland Senate race where the LNP’s Amanda Stoker, One Nation’s Pauline Hanson, United Australia Party’s Palmer and Liberal Democrat Campbell Newman are likely to slug it out over two seats between them.

On the other hand, in affluent suburban electorates like Abbott’s former seat of Warringah, green left independents appeal to the post-material interests of formerly loyal Liberal voters. This year those efforts are being intensified through the “Voices of … Independents” and could end up deciding the election outcome.

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Reply #50 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 2:01pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:00am:

that delivered broken promises and shambolic government

have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot

Telling how you left our Turbull. Your kind of Lib, just like these Voices "independents".

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Reply #51 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 3:48pm

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:00am:

that delivered broken promises and shambolic government

have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot

Telling how you left our Turbull. Your kind of Lib, just like these Voices "independents".

yeah, forgot about the irrelevant twit Turdball. You voted for him, not me.

Why do you not hold any of them to the same standard you hold gillard and her 'broken promises'? Surely you don't think the libtards kept their promises? Grin

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Reply #52 - Feb 12^th, 2022 at 3:54pm

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 2:01pm:

Telling how you left our Turbull.

Turnbull was better than the others, but he was a moderate who was torn down by the right-wing filth in the Liberal Party.

And that's the problem - the Liberal party is no longer Howard's "broad church" but has become very narrow in its interests. Worse, Morrison has been given the power to stack the Liberal party with his own people - like branch stacking but much worse because there's no democratic process.

If the Liberal Party do get a much-deserved hammering at the next election, it may end up being the wake-up call the party needed. The party needs a cleanout of the deadwood that has accumulated and an end to the "captain's pick" culture, and only a heavy election loss can give the party the incentive to make these changes.

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Reply #54 - Feb 15^th, 2022 at 4:48pm

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

so that's your excuse for not holding them to their promises when they were in govt. like you do labor? Cheesy

stick to commenting on canolli and concrete

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 55674 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #55 - Feb 16^th, 2022 at 8:38am If today's Mark Latham led the Labor Party I'd vote for them.
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Reply #57 - Feb 16^th, 2022 at 9:16am

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:00am:

that delivered broken promises and shambolic government

have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot

No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

Yet the potential to plumb new depths is clear. Like the pandemic, our polity could soon experience a more contagious variant of viral dysfunction.

The major parties are largely to blame, ceaselessly making themselves less compelling. Under Rudd, Labor brought the superficial, poll-driven and media-enslaved state political model to Canberra – conviction was tossed overboard in favour of trying to be all things to all people.

And since Tony Abbott’s crushing conviction victory in 2013, the Coalition has wandered down the same path, led by its increasingly dominant moderate wing, aimlessly searching for the next compromise or headline. Parliament House has been overtaken by invertebrates.

The independents are partly the cause but also the beneficiaries in this dynamic. Many key elements of Abbott’s strongly conservative budget were blocked in 2014 thanks to the likes of Clive Palmer and Nick Xenophon; this in turn has encouraged the Coalition to shy away from firm action and tough debates, leading to disenchantment and a fracturing of the conservative vote.

One Nation, Palmer and the Liberal independents are all working on that flank. Think of the Queensland Senate race where the LNP’s Amanda Stoker, One Nation’s Pauline Hanson, United Australia Party’s Palmer and Liberal Democrat Campbell Newman are likely to slug it out over two seats between them.

On the other hand, in affluent suburban electorates like Abbott’s former seat of Warringah, green left independents appeal to the post-material interests of formerly loyal Liberal voters. This year those efforts are being intensified through the “Voices of … Independents” and could end up deciding the election outcome.

Gees..... that reads like a copy & paste?

Plagiarism?

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Reply #58 - Feb 16^th, 2022 at 9:22am

Gnads wrote on Feb 16^th, 2022 at 9:16am:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 12^th, 2022 at 11:00am:

that delivered broken promises and shambolic government

have you been asleep during Abbott and scummos terms in office?

Because it's either that or you're a complete and utter idiot

No prime minister has lasted a full term over that period, parliamentary culture has been scandalised, and faith in politics has plummeted.

Yet the potential to plumb new depths is clear. Like the pandemic, our polity could soon experience a more contagious variant of viral dysfunction.

The major parties are largely to blame, ceaselessly making themselves less compelling. Under Rudd, Labor brought the superficial, poll-driven and media-enslaved state political model to Canberra – conviction was tossed overboard in favour of trying to be all things to all people.

And since Tony Abbott’s crushing conviction victory in 2013, the Coalition has wandered down the same path, led by its increasingly dominant moderate wing, aimlessly searching for the next compromise or headline. Parliament House has been overtaken by invertebrates.

The independents are partly the cause but also the beneficiaries in this dynamic. Many key elements of Abbott’s strongly conservative budget were blocked in 2014 thanks to the likes of Clive Palmer and Nick Xenophon; this in turn has encouraged the Coalition to shy away from firm action and tough debates, leading to disenchantment and a fracturing of the conservative vote.

One Nation, Palmer and the Liberal independents are all working on that flank. Think of the Queensland Senate race where the LNP’s Amanda Stoker, One Nation’s Pauline Hanson, United Australia Party’s Palmer and Liberal Democrat Campbell Newman are likely to slug it out over two seats between them.

On the other hand, in affluent suburban electorates like Abbott’s former seat of Warringah, green left independents appeal to the post-material interests of formerly loyal Liberal voters. This year those efforts are being intensified through the “Voices of … Independents” and could end up deciding the election outcome.

Gees..... that reads like a copy & paste?

Plagiarism?

referenced
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1643775238/44#44

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 55674 Gender:	Re: Albo government scorecard Reply #59 - Feb 26^th, 2022 at 8:26pm Albo Government would bend over to China and talk crap about Putin - too far, too white, too European. Penny is focused on Asia, diversity, transgender bathrooms and LBGTQ - things that matter..... Just picture her with Vlad.
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