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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Windows 11 Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 9:25am I've just been invited to download/install Windows 11. And it's free! Anybody know anything about it?
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Re: Windows 11
Reply #2 - Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 12:29pm

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 9:25am:

I've just been invited to download/install Windows 11. And it's free!

Anybody know anything about it?

I've been a "beta tester" since May. Had some minor problems with folders, start ups, and there was a while there is really slowed internet speed to a crawl. Micro$oft seems to have resolved these issues but it's really not much of an improvement. Micro$oft attempting to go for a iOS feel with center icons; the big push was that Windows 11 allegedly to get Android apps to work on a PC but that too has been delayed until mid 2022. Oh, and you need a "TPN" chip to run Windows 11 otherwise, no deal.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #3 - Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 1:31pm

Marla wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 12:29pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2021 at 9:25am:

I've just been invited to download/install Windows 11. And it's free!

Anybody know anything about it?

I've been a "beta tester" since May. Had some minor problems with folders, start ups, and there was a while there is really slowed internet speed to a crawl. Micro$oft seems to have resolved these issues but it's really not much of an improvement. Micro$oft attempting to go for a iOS feel with center icons; the big push was that Windows 11 allegedly to get Android apps to work on a PC but that too has been delayed until mid 2022. Oh, and you need a "TPN" chip to run Windows 11 otherwise, no deal.

Thanks Marla. I've had a look at some of the changes and I don't see that there's much improvement for the occasional computer user like me.

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Marla Gold Member Offline I really hate you Posts: 12857 Colorado Gender:	Re: Windows 11 Reply #4 - Oct 24^th, 2021 at 4:35am Most accurate "review" I could find
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Windows 11 Reply #5 - Oct 24^th, 2021 at 11:53pm Every good Marxist must have one.
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Super Nova Gold Member Offline Posts: 3042 Everywhere Gender:	Re: Windows 11 Reply #6 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 3:54pm My work PC was updated last night to Windows 11. I see no real difference but have not explored it. It works. No issues so far.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43658 Gender:	Re: Windows 11 Reply #7 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 4:48pm Me, I LOVE my RISC laptop. 20 that is TWENTY hours of battery life! Very LITTLE heat generated Fast and responsive. Apple always leading.
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Re: Windows 11
Reply #8 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 4:52pm

Super Nova wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 3:54pm:

My work PC was updated last night to Windows 11.

I see no real difference but have not explored it.

It works. No issues so far.

I always hated those work updates, most of the time there was stuff that went missing on your hardrive or it was incompatible with some other bit of software and you end up reinstalling all the drivers.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #9 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:38am

Not a big fan.

Mainly because my four-year-old, top-shelf i7 laptop won't run it
because its CPU isn't supported.

I'm understandably reluctant to spend another $2000+ for a new
computer when this one is still in good working order.

And yes - I DO need a high-end (therefore expensive) laptop due
to the fact that I do a lot of video editing, much of it in 4K, which
does require a powerful machine with decent graphics capability.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #10 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:48am

rhino wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 4:52pm:

Super Nova wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 3:54pm:

My work PC was updated last night to Windows 11.

I see no real difference but have not explored it.

It works. No issues so far.

I always hated those work updates, most of the time there was stuff that went missing on your hardrive or it was incompatible with some other bit of software and you end up reinstalling all the drivers.

Invariably it resets some obscure setting you have to hunt down to fix

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #11 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 9:04am

Kat wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:38am:

Not a big fan.

Mainly because my four-year-old, top-shelf i7 laptop won't run it
because its CPU isn't supported.

I'm understandably reluctant to spend another $2000+ for a new
computer when this one is still in good working order.

And yes - I DO need a high-end (therefore expensive) laptop due
to the fact that I do a lot of video editing, much of it in 4K, which
does require a powerful machine with decent graphics capability.

Have to agree there, Kat.

I have 2 desktop PC's here, one with an older 4th Generation Intel i3-4160 CPU (Haswell) and the other with a 7th Generation Intel i5-7600 CPU (Kaby Lake) and neither of them will (officially) run Windows 11.

There are ways to 'force' the installation of Windows 11 on unsupported hardware but there's no guarantee it will work and then no guarantee that Microsoft will allow updates if you do get it to work.

I also have a little Lenovo laptop that I bought about 4 months back which I could run Windows 11 on since the CPU is on the supported list and it also has a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) built in (which is another of the requirements) but I really can't be bothered installing 11 at the moment. I do have Macrium Reflect image backups of both desktop PC's and the laptop so it isn't a problem to quickly go back to Windows 10 if something goes wrong trying to install 11.

Nah... stuff it... I'll stay with 10 for the moment, thanks. I also believe this whole 'unsupported hardware' BS is just another ploy with Microsoft and the hardware manufacturers trying to get people to buy or build new PC's just to run Microsoft's latest Windows version.

And, Microsoft does have prior 'form' with things like this - they 'artificially'stopped Windows 7 being installed on 7th Generation and above CPU's back in 2017 when they were pushing Windows 10 hard. Actually, they didn't stop Windows 7 being installed but they stopped people getting Windows Updates for Windows 7 with these processors (but, as always, there were/are still ways of getting around that as well).

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #12 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 6:06pm

Carl D wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 9:04am:

Kat wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:38am:

Not a big fan.

Mainly because my four-year-old, top-shelf i7 laptop won't run it
because its CPU isn't supported.

I'm understandably reluctant to spend another $2000+ for a new
computer when this one is still in good working order.

And yes - I DO need a high-end (therefore expensive) laptop due
to the fact that I do a lot of video editing, much of it in 4K, which
does require a powerful machine with decent graphics capability.

Have to agree there, Kat.

I have 2 desktop PC's here, one with an older 4th Generation Intel i3-4160 CPU (Haswell) and the other with a 7th Generation Intel i5-7600 CPU (Kaby Lake) and neither of them will (officially) run Windows 11.

There are ways to 'force' the installation of Windows 11 on unsupported hardware

but there's no guarantee it will work and then no guarantee that Microsoft will allow updates if you do get it to work.

I also have a little Lenovo laptop that I bought about 4 months back which I could run Windows 11 on since the CPU is on the supported list and it also has a TPM (Trusted Platform Module) built in (which is another of the requirements) but I really can't be bothered installing 11 at the moment. I do have Macrium Reflect image backups of both desktop PC's and the laptop so it isn't a problem to quickly go back to Windows 10 if something goes wrong trying to install 11.

Nah... stuff it... I'll stay with 10 for the moment, thanks. I also believe this whole 'unsupported hardware' BS is just another ploy with Microsoft and the hardware manufacturers trying to get people to buy or build new PC's just to run Microsoft's latest Windows version.

And, Microsoft does have prior 'form' with things like this - they 'artificially'stopped Windows 7 being installed on 7th Generation and above CPU's back in 2017 when they were pushing Windows 10 hard. Actually, they didn't stop Windows 7 being installed but they stopped people getting Windows Updates for Windows 7 with these processors (but, as always, there were/are still ways of getting around that as well).

I will definitely be investigating this, and as for getting updates I'm not
that worried. My XP, Win 7 and Vista Ultimate systems get by just fine
without them.

My current machine is an ASUS ROG GL753 gaming laptop with an i7
7700 @ 2.8Ghz, an SSD and a 1TB spinner HD, a 17" screen and a 4
gig Nvidia GeForce graphics setup.

It's patently ridiculous that this setup 'can't' run Win 11.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #13 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 6:09pm

I have found windows 10 to be the worst virus I have ever had on my computer.
As bad a millennium they brought out, and quickly scrapped, several years ago.

Windows 7 seemed to be the most responsive and functional I have used.
But it didn't have the necessary ability to download everything on your computer while it's pretending to be updating.

This continual updating is a serious PITA, I turn mine off and once a month I update.
It takes hours and there is never any improvement, usually I have to do a few fixes afterward.

If only the actually released a functional and fast platform.
But the geeks and boffins just out of school now have no idea how to make it work properly.

Wait until Windows 13.
It will be gender neutral and you will be required to name all 72 genders before you can log on.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #14 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 6:14pm

Valkie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 6:09pm:

I have found windows 10 to be the worst virus I have ever had on my computer.
As bad a millennium they brought out, and quickly scrapped, several years ago.

Windows 7 seemed to be the most responsive and functional I have used.
But it didn't have the necessary ability to download everything on your computer while it's pretending to be updating.

This continual updating is a serious PITA, I turn mine off and once a month I update.
It takes hours and there is never any improvement, usually I have to do a few fixes afterward.

If only the actually released a functional and fast platform.
But the geeks and boffins just out of school now have no idea how to make it work properly.

Wait until Windows 13.
It will be gender neutral and you will be required to name all 72 genders before you can log on.

I certainly hope not, but you never know, do you?

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