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Reply #15 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:16am
 
Carson also reminds us these connections between literature and lived experience extend beyond the classical world. Consider her long poem about unrequited love The Glass Essay, collected in Glass, Irony and God (1995) – and cited by the Nobel committee. The poem’s speaker visits her mother after the end of a relationship, taking Emily Brontë with her in the form of a book. Reading is part of her effort to understand what has happened.

The relationship between learning and loss becomes especially stark in Nox (2010), Carson’s astonishing elegy for her estranged brother, Michael, who died in 2000.

Running through it is Carson’s engagement with Catullus’ poem mourning his own brother. Poet-critic Dan Chiasson explains how the book brings the limited record of Carson’s brother’s life into contact with a Latin–English lexicon keyed to ancient Roman poet Catullus’ elegy. Chiasson also draws attention to a difficulty at the centre of Nox: accumulated material does not produce a clearer understanding of the person being mourned.

Carson acknowledges this at the start of the book:

    I wanted to fill my elegy with light of all kinds. But death makes us stingy. There is nothing more to be expended on that, we think. He’s dead. Love cannot alter it. Words cannot add to it.

That tension helps explain the book’s deeply thoughtful method of assemblage. Nox needs to be seen – and ideally, held – to be properly appreciated. Published as an accordion-folded book in a box, it reproduces a handmade assortment of photographs and fragmentary scraps of text.

Archival documentation can be preserved and examined, but cannot answer every question Carson might have asked of her brother. The form of the thing allows evidence and uncertainty to sit side by side, encouraging further reflection on the part of the reader.

Breathtaking emotional force

The gaps in Nox find a counterpart in Carson’s work as a translator. In If Not, Winter (2002), her bilingual edition of ancient Greek poet Sappho’s work, brackets and blanks mark what has been lost. The reader encounters words that have endured for centuries alongside the white space where others should be. Carson makes that incomplete transition part of the reading process. Absence acquires a visible form.

Her recent collection, Wrong Norma, finds a different use for discontinuity. Its 25 entries, accompanied by images, move between subjects as far apart as the legal representation of detainees at Guantánamo Bay and deepening footsteps left in snow (the latter is one of Carson’s longstanding preoccupations).

Carson describes the pieces as unlinked – hence the title’s supposed wrongness. The collection gives readers no continuous narrative to follow. Each exploratory text is a point of departure: an opportunity for fresh discovery and the potential for new ways of thinking.

For readers drawn to Carson in the wake of the Nobel, this willingness to depart from an expected course may take some getting used to. But it is also part of the pleasure and reward of reading her.

Her writing might be grounded in the trappings of scholarly inquiry, but she consistently arrives at observations and insights whose emotional force can take the breath away. The learning matters. So does the surprise.


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Reply #16 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:30am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:11am:
Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 11:41am:
Anne Carson - she no Hemingway, Camus, Churchill, Sartre, Naipaul, Milosz, Bertrand Russell, T,S Eliot, Steinbeck, Beckett,  Thomas Mann, Pirandello, GB Shaw, Yeats, Kipling, Harold Pinter, Bob Dylan, dario Fo, Grass, Boll, Seamus Heaney, Singer.



I think she is a DEI winner, not a winner on literary, artistic merit. She will be soon forgotten as her literary work is slight and banal.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/anne-carson


Did it even remotely occur to you that so limited are you in your world view that you only relate to white guys?



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There's the mental cancer of the age in a single idiotic utterance: even literary, artistic excellence is instantly recast as 'white male' versus the rest.
Dreadfully stupid - but prevalent.


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Reply #17 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:39am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:30am:
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:11am:
Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 11:41am:
Anne Carson - she no Hemingway, Camus, Churchill, Sartre, Naipaul, Milosz, Bertrand Russell, T,S Eliot, Steinbeck, Beckett,  Thomas Mann, Pirandello, GB Shaw, Yeats, Kipling, Harold Pinter, Bob Dylan, dario Fo, Grass, Boll, Seamus Heaney, Singer.



I think she is a DEI winner, not a winner on literary, artistic merit. She will be soon forgotten as her literary work is slight and banal.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/anne-carson


Did it even remotely occur to you that so limited are you in your world view that you only relate to white guys?



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


There's the mental cancer of the age in a single idiotic utterance: even literary, artistic excellence is instantly recast as 'white male' versus the rest.
Dreadfully stupid - but prevalent.





Oh get your hand off it. You're having a right sulk because a woman won the prize and another, Margaret Atwood, was nominated. Not good enough, shriek you.

Of course they are. They're brilliant. You just don't get them because you don't want to get them.

You just want to hold your breathe until you turn blue and recite the list of appropriate white guys. So, so limited are you in interpersonal experience and so very reluctant to change.
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Reply #18 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:58am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 8:08pm:
Anne Carson and Can Xue favourites to win Nobel prize in literature
The Canadian poet and Chinese experimental writer are the bookmakers’ favourites to win, with Haruki Murakami, Gerald Murnane (Australian) and Margaret Atwood also in the mix


Murnane is my wish. Murakami is prolific, good but a passing fancy. As is Atwood.
Can't say I had the others on my radar but DEI will be a big consideration, as always.


Murnane is a better writer than Carson.
As is Murakami.



Carson takes Greek mythology and fashons kitchen sink meditations out of them.

Mediocre, formulaic. No man would be given a Nobel for such an output.
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Reply #19 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 9:22am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:16am:
Carson also reminds us these connections between literature and lived experience extend beyond the classical world. Consider her long poem about unrequited love The Glass Essay, collected in Glass, Irony and God (1995) – and cited by the Nobel committee. The poem’s speaker visits her mother after the end of a relationship, taking Emily Brontë with her in the form of a book. Reading is part of her effort to understand what has happened.




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