Guys, 'guys'... Can you all just not get along without showing signs of gender identity disorder?

Just for kickers, Joe Rogan is not a 'pussy'... OK he's a shortarse with a big personality, but he's not a pussy.

He's also not much of a critical thinker.

Did he have COVID in the first place? Who knows? He said he did and he said he got tested.

He then used every alternative and unproven method to combat his 'COVID' including ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, prednisone and vitamins. Of course, he can afford a treatment  with monoclonal antibodies. Most people would not be able to afford it.

He was quick to show what appeared to be his negative test reading a few days later.

However he has not publicly released the initial test results, so it's possible he didn't get tested and just assumed he had COVID. Until he releases his initial test results, there will always be that doubt.

Did he he fake it (or at least jump to a conclusion about his contracting COVID in the first place)? Possibly. He's a 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story or promotional opportunity' kind of guy.

Also (a) he is an 'alternative medicine' quasi-religious disciple and (b) he may have been trying to help his friend Bret Weinstein, who has been severely (and rightly) criticised for his unscientific methods for promoting ivermectin. As a scientist, Weinstein did know better than that. Weinstein has since walked back some of his claims about ivermectin and his false claims of the dangers of vaccines' spike proteins, but the damage to his reputation has been done.

Meanwhile, in the US, the number of emergency calls for ivermectin overdose has massively increased over the last few months.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 7:06am:

Did you get on better with your father or your mother?

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 7:44am:

Impressive... From the heart... Although I'd drop the last two lines... It makes you look small-minded.

The reason I asked about the mother / father dynamic is that I have noticed for a long time that Jordan Peterson rarely talks about his mother.

However, he recently did. He told his interviewer that his mother is high in trait extroversion while his father is low (an introvert).

He alluded to this being a big problem in his parents' marriage.

It crystalised his strident obsession with all things paternal and his fantasies of 'saving the father'.

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 8:00am:

I think Peterson is still suicidal.

I'd bet Rogan is, without doubt, extremely high in openness, somewhat average in certain conscientiousness traits, extremely high in extroversion, low in agreeableness... Can't be sure about neuroticism but I'd guess low.

Rogan would have an ego the size of an average city... He'd fill a room in nanosecond.

Being extremely high in openness, yes, he'd want to hear about new things all the time.

He is also highly charismatic. However, he does not seem to comprehend that charisma requires responsibility.

His audience is, likely, dangerously uncritical of his ideas which, as he readily admits, are often half-baked.

In times when it's only entertainment, then it's less of a problem.

In times like these, where his people are dying in their thousands due to gross ignorance or (as Zuby might put it) would rather die from false beliefs than admit they're wrong, Rogan has a responsibility to tone down his rhetoric; at least for the sake of those who, unlike him, can't afford to 'throw the kitchen sink' at a disease.

Very, very few politicians would ever risk publicly saying they're comfortable with anything more than 0 deaths, from anything, so political rhetoric cannot be trusted as indicative of what the person would think.

All people without power are naturally cynical (and should have a healthy skepticism) of those with power.

But, to be fair, Australian politicians (regardless of what you may think of their methods), if they're successful, will leave their respective parliaments rightly believing that they prevented the deaths of thousands of their people... Not a bad thing to go to your grave (in many years time) knowing.

The shark analogy is true enough to laugh at. As we know, Australia has a reputation for being infested with dangerous animals on land and sea, largely due to our over-hyping the risk of dying from everything, including spiders. Schlock shark-attack movies help with the myth, of course.

Yes, obviously there are many things you can die from and, if an adult from 1890 time-travelled to today, they'd likely be more terrified of traffic than snakes or disease.

I think more people are likely to perish from quackery than COVID.

I think Rogan should tone down his rhetoric, not rev it up on the other side.

There's no doubt in my mind that Rogan would be a rabid anti-vaxxer if he wasn't so wary of being deplatformed. He's an American uber-libertarian and survivalist which makes him hyper-confident of his own abilities to survive solo in severe situations.

Easy to admire, but impossible to realise in large numbers in a modern society.

You'd know that if society collapsed, farmers would last longer than city-dwellers... At least until thousands of starved and armed city-dwellers marauded across the countryside killing anyone who resisted them finding and taking food... Like what happened in Cuba after the fall of the Soviet Union.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 8:15am:


I've snipped your post because I want to take you to task on one thing.

You can never know what a celebrity is like from their on-air persona. I've met a bunch, from up and comers to A listers, and you just never know. The one you think will be a total dick can be a humble gracious person, or they can be a total dick as advertised, or just neutral. It's really hard to know.

Rogan undoubtedly has a big personality and is a very confident person but that can't be conflated with having an inflated ego.

However, if you listen to what he says about his jujitsu, and how he does it for the sole reason it keeps you humble. Someone with a big ego wouldn't enjoy having to tap out.

Similarly with his comedy. He's mentioned that some comics tour with people who are prone to bombing to make themselves look like the bright shining headliner. He says he tours with people he thinks are awesome and push him to be on his game.
He's currently touring with Dave Chappelle, that says a lot.

Those two things clearly point to him being more about self improvement than just having a big fat overblown ego.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 10:41am:


Indeed he is, especially when he says stupid (incorrect) things like this about the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines:

"It's not really a vaccine in the traditional sense."

"This is really gene therapy."

Dickhead.