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Reply #15 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.

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Reply #16 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?
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Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??
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Reply #18 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?
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Reply #19 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:45pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?

If they had a strong enough military, then it's theirs.
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Reply #20 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:50pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?

If they had a strong enough military, then it's theirs.


In 1948 when the Brits influenced the creation of the State of Israel, it had zero military, or no better than Arabs had vis a vie Jews.  It bristles now because of massive ongoing Western support which I cannot logically explain.
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Reply #21 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:53pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:50pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?

If they had a strong enough military, then it's theirs.


In 1948 when the Brits influenced the creation of the State of Israel, it had zero military, or no better than Arabs had vis a vie Jews.  It bristles now because of massive ongoing Western support which I cannot logically explain.

Well, there was all that reparations money paid by West Germany / Germany... And then there was the extreme interest and patronage extended by the US to Israel after the Israelis who had so conclusively and incredibly won the 1967 war in just six days... Ashkenasi Jews, bloody overachievers!!
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Reply #22 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:55pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:44pm:

The Jewish claim to Palestine is based on the existence of a kingdom that reigned for only 414 years.....




"only 414 years"

That is an absurd claim, imo.

Shame on you wombatwoody.


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Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2014 at 12:08am:

Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history
       Tongue


Could you answer some basic questions about the country of Palestine ? :


1. When was it founded and by whom?
2. What language did the Palestinians speak?
3. What writing [script] did they use?
4. What manuscripts did they leave?
5. What was their religion?
6. Where are their temples?
7. What monuments attest to their existence?
8. What were its borders?
9. What was the name of its capital?
10. What were its major cities?
11. What constituted the basis of its economy?
12. What was the name of the currency that they used?
13. What was its form of government?
14. What achievements have they accomplished?
15. What other peoples did Palestine interact with?
16. Where can one find any [historic] records, wherein the country of Palestine and its people are mentioned?
17. What archaeological sites can one name?
18. Where can one find the recorded history of these people?
19. Whom did they conquer?, or, were conquered by?
20. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation [or doubt]?
21. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?
22. Can anyone name at least five Palestinian leaders before Arafat?
23. Finally, since there is no such recognised country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?


Further, why did these proud 'Palestinians' between 1948 and 1967, passively, allow themselves to be occupied by the Jordanians in the 'West Bank', and by the Egyptians in Gaza?


Those Q's  [above] are taken from;

Part 142 - Palestine and Palestinians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04iGfi9No6M

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'The Palestinian State', is a national entity that has never existed, and which can never exist, except within the borders of Jordan [the nation which is the ancient homeland of all of the 'Palestinian' people].



Palestine - a nation with a prestigious history

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1392646116/0#0



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The reality is that a 'Palestinian nation' has NEVER EXISTED.

But [in contrast], historic accounts attest, that Jewish people have certainly inhabited that land from 1,400 BC, forward.

And...... 1,400 BC to 2,021 > 414 years.


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But moslems will insist that it was only ever moslems, that inhabited the land of 'Palestine'.
....AND NEVER A JEWISH PEOPLE.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1557114588/25#25

Quote:

Temple Mount '100% Islamic'
June 01, 2008
"....Taysir Tamimi, chief Palestinian Justice and one of the most influential Muslim leaders in Israel, argued the Jewish Temples never existed,...."






Quote:

n.b.
And just look how moslems respond,
            whenever additional, independent historic sources, contradict the moslem 'narrative' of 'their' history....

".....descriptions of the Jewish Temples in the Hebrew Tanach, in the Talmud and in Byzantine and Roman writings from the Temple periods were forged,...."


Oh, but of course they were!





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QUESTION;
Who are we going to believe ?

Accepted, authentic, historic records [from differing sources],
or the self-serving narratives of moslems ?


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QUESTION;
Please tell me, what is the origin of the name Judea ?

A name, which has been associated with an area of land inhabited by    JEWISH PEOPLE     for millennia ?


Judea ?

....Oh, i wonder if that name for the land, came from the Koran ?   /sarc off


QUESTION;
For how many centuries has the name Judea been used [to identify that area of land] ?





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Reply #23 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:50pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?

If they had a strong enough military, then it's theirs.


In 1948 when the Brits influenced the creation of the State of Israel, it had zero military, or no better than Arabs had vis a vie Jews.  It bristles now because of massive ongoing Western support which I cannot logically explain.

Well, there was all that reparations money paid by West Germany / Germany... And then there was the extreme interest and patronage extended by the US to Israel after the Israelis who had so conclusively and incredibly won the 1967 war in just six days... Ashkenasi Jews, bloody overachievers!!


Link?
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Reply #24 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm:
Link?

Aww, please Aussie... You say you're a lawyer and you don't know about this?

You can google it or go to Germany and (after you've established confidence) ask them what they think of having to pay reparations (even to date) -  the 'Israel tax'.
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Reply #25 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:13pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:06pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm:
Link?

Aww, please Aussie... You say you're a lawyer and you don't know about this?

You can google it or go to Germany and (after you've established confidence) ask them what they think of having to pay reparations (even to date) -  the 'Israel tax'.


I had googled it before my post.  That's why I asked YOU for a link which supports your assertion.

Link?
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Reply #26 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:13pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:01pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:50pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?

If they had a strong enough military, then it's theirs.


In 1948 when the Brits influenced the creation of the State of Israel, it had zero military, or no better than Arabs had vis a vie Jews.  It bristles now because of massive ongoing Western support which I cannot logically explain.

Well, there was all that reparations money paid by West Germany / Germany... And then there was the extreme interest and patronage extended by the US to Israel after the Israelis who had so conclusively and incredibly won the 1967 war in just six days... Ashkenasi Jews, bloody overachievers!!


Link?


Because without a link Arssie couldn't possibly know ANYTHING about German reparations.  Or anything.

Provide a link to everything you post from now on, arse, otherwise WHO KNOWS what you might mean.
(You mongs are ALL fccn Bwianesque - po-faced 'oh, yeah??" cockwombles. )








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Reply #27 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:15pm
 
Just thought I'd throw this in:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

Bonus Question:-  How many Jews are in government in any Arab state???
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Reply #28 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:20pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:15pm:
Just thought I'd throw this in:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset

Bonus Question:-  How many Jews are in government in any Arab state???


Who cares?

Are Arabs second class citizens of the State of Israel....you know...that beacon of democracy Effendi describes?
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Reply #29 - Jun 3rd, 2021 at 7:20pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 6:09pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 5:26pm:
Belgarion wrote on Jun 3rd, 2021 at 4:39pm:
The Jews have lived there for at least 3000 years, probably longer, whereas the Arabs are recent blow ins. 


And therefor?



Yeah, same therefore to the Aborigines.



I wonder if Balgarion agrees?

More to the point - do you??


Well.....if Jews have a right to the State of Israel because they have been there 3000 years, then the corollary is....we better hand Australia back to the Aborigines who have been here over 60,000 years, yes?



Impossible - not only were they genocided (don' cha know?), but they are a minority - whereas Israelis of both Jewish and Arabic persuasion are the majority...

Hooooow do ya know?  How do ya KNOW?    How do you know the Aborignes lived here for 60,000 years?  Some old bones?  What if it was only ten of them wandering in from Java or something?
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