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Reply #540 - May 19th, 2025 at 10:34pm
 
Frank wrote on May 19th, 2025 at 6:50pm:
The British elites have capitulated to Islamo-censorship



Australia ditto. And most of Western Europe.



In Britain, in 2025, whether or not you should be able to criticise a religion, mock its practices, burn its texts, is an alarmingly live issue. And when I say ‘a religion’, you know which one I’m talking about. This debate has lit up again this week, following the charges brought against Hamit Coskun for burning a Koran outside the Turkish consulate in London in February. His one-man protest against the Islamist turn of Turkey under Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has been chalked up as a religiously motivated public-order offence, drawing the condemnation of shadow justice secretary Robert Jenrick and causing an X feud between two MPs. Rupert Lowe – the member for the Very Online right – condemned our backdoor blasphemy laws, while Adnan Hussain – one of the so-called Gaza independents who rode a wave of sectarian, anti-Israel bile into parliament at the last General Election – accused Lowe of singling out Muslims under the guise of freedom of speech.

Hussain’s arguments are as banal as they are illiberal. Free speech isn’t absolute, ackshually. Those who claim to care about Koran-burners are really just racists. Do you know who also burned books? Hitler! What most sticks in the craw is how depressingly pedestrian they are – not simply among the ‘Gaza independents’, but also the liberal elites, who long ago sacrificed genuine liberalism on the altar of multiculturalism. It is their cowardice and relativism that has brought us to this point: where the old Christian blasphemy laws may be long gone, but informal Islamic blasphemy laws are fast taking shape, with hate-speech laws refashioned to forcefield a faith from criticism.

Those shocked to see a case like Coskun’s haven’t been paying attention. Ever since the Rushdie affair, we have witnessed an unholy alliance between Islamist censors, a cowardly political establishment and an increasingly identitarian left. The first protest against The Satanic Verses, Salman Rushdie’s ‘blasphemous’ novel which earned him the Ayatollah’s fatwa and almost cost him his life, was not on the subcontinent or in the Middle East, but in Bolton on 2 December 1988. While this movement never succeeded in getting Rushdie’s novel banned in Britain, or extending Britain’s blasphemy laws to cover Islam, it put the fear of Allah into anyone who dared publish a book, display a cartoon or make a statement that some perma-outraged prick, claiming to speak on behalf of Muslims, might deem to be offensive or heretical. This haunts us to this day, as the still-disappeared Batley school teacher or the recent – mercifully foiled – attempts to murder ex-Muslim Hatun Tash show.

Worse still, the government became the Islamo-censors’ useful idiots – with New Labour ushering in laws against ‘incitement to religious hatred’ in 2006 and getting into bed with reactionaries posing as community leaders. The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) was one of many groups, presenting itself as the authentic voice of Muslim outrage, that emerged from the anti-Rushie movement. Iqbal Sacranie – who once said ‘death, perhaps, [was] a bit too easy’ an end for Rushdie – was among its founders. He was knighted in 2005, with a BBC profile boasting of his sway in Downing Street and the Home Office. The Labour government briefly broke ties with the MCB in 2009, after its deputy signed a declaration supporting Hamas attacks on Israel and allied troops. Starmer’s Labour claims not to do business with the MCB, even though its ministers and MPs popped up at an MCB do in January. Labour, you might recall, is currently drawing up a definition of ‘Islamophobia’ to impose on government bodies.

The dimwitted line that everyone who rages against blasphemy laws is really raging against Muslims – subjecting them to some kind of bigoted double standard – gets things entirely the wrong way round, laughably so. Firstly, because the debate around blasphemy in 21st-century Britain is not centred on whether it should be illegal to burn the Bible or draw crude cartoons of Ganesh. Secondly, because if there is any anti-Muslim prejudice at play here it is surely in the notion that Muslims, unlike any other faith or group, are constitutionally incapable of freedom of speech. That they are simply too intolerant or volatile to have their beliefs subjected to debate, ridicule and criticism. That they cannot be full citizens in a liberal, democratic society, essentially. That sounds awfully bigoted to me. it is in fact Bbwiyanesquely bigoted.

There’s another, darker irony. Those claiming the right to blaspheme is somehow a threat to Muslims should Google the names Asad Shah and Jalal Uddin. To my knowledge, these are the only two men to be murdered in Britain over the past decade for blaspheming against Islam. And both of them were Muslim. Shah, a member of the tiny Ahmadi sect, was stabbed and stomped to death by a Sunni who took offence to his YouTube videos. Uddin was bludgeoned to death by two ISIS fanboys who accused the 71-year-old imam of practising black magic.
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Reply #541 - May 19th, 2025 at 11:50pm
 
Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #542 - May 20th, 2025 at 12:08am
 
Frank,
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That they are simply too intolerant or volatile to have their beliefs
subjected to debate, ridicule and criticism.
That they cannot be full citizens in a liberal, democratic society, essentially.
That sounds awfully bigoted to me. it is in fact Bbwiyanesquely bigoted.



hear hear - well said.

Bit by bit  - our society is being changed for Muslims.

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Reply #543 - May 20th, 2025 at 12:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 12:08am:
Frank,
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That they are simply too intolerant or volatile to have their beliefs
subjected to debate, ridicule and criticism.
That they cannot be full citizens in a liberal, democratic society, essentially.
That sounds awfully bigoted to me. it is in fact Bbwiyanesquely bigoted.



hear hear - well said.

Bit by bit  - our society is being changed for Muslims.




I cannot think of a single Islamic improvement to Australia or any other Western country.
I can think of many, many detrimental effects.


We should have no immigration from places that do not wish to actively assimilate. What is the point of importing an unassimilating, resentful underclass which aims, in time, to be the overclass as the worldwide Ummah?

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Reply #544 - May 20th, 2025 at 2:15pm
 
Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #545 - May 20th, 2025 at 3:49pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 2:15pm:
Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



I cannot think of a single Islamic improvement to Australia or any other Western country - can you think* of any?



* I know I am asking you to do something really challenging for you but give it a go.
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Reply #546 - May 20th, 2025 at 4:10pm
 
Must upset you, Soren, for the Australian Government to do what the Australian Constitution says?  No one else objects to Islam, except Islamophobics.  Must make you a sorry little man, hating people for worshiping a different God to you, hey?  How many Muslims do you know, personally?  Any at all?  No, of course not, you hate all Muslims.  Now if you got to know some plain, ordinary, everyday, Muslims you might find them interesting.  However, we know that isn't possible for you, now is it?  You'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim and you'd rip the Hijab off of a Muslim than share a bus with her.  Must make you a scream at the Islamophobic dinner parties you attend, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #547 - May 20th, 2025 at 11:39pm
 
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In an appalling case, a UK imam (and NHS manager) has been terrorising individuals accused of ‘insulting Islam’ by saying blasphemers should be executed. There’s been a worrying lack of action from authorities. We’re quoted 👇

https://x.com/NatSecSoc/status/1924021276504449287


This is the Islam Bwhine supports  Roll Eyes

Bwhine would be happy for critics of Islam to be executed he will say they were Islamophobes who deserved it.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Re: The Best Way to Combat Islamophobia
Reply #548 - May 21st, 2025 at 10:38am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Must upset you, Soren, for the Australian Government to do what the Australian Constitution says?  No one else objects to Islam, except Islamophobics.  Must make you a sorry little man, hating people for worshiping a different God to you, hey?  How many Muslims do you know, personally?  Any at all?  No, of course not, you hate all Muslims.  Now if you got to know some plain, ordinary, everyday, Muslims you might find them interesting.  However, we know that isn't possible for you, now is it?  You'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim and you'd rip the Hijab off of a Muslim than share a bus with her.  Must make you a scream at the Islamophobic dinner parties you attend, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Focus bozo. Try to respond to what is actually said. I even highlight it for you.


I cannot think of a single Islamic improvement to Australia or any other Western country - can you think of any?
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Reply #549 - May 21st, 2025 at 1:28pm
 
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:38am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Must upset you, Soren, for the Australian Government to do what the Australian Constitution says?  No one else objects to Islam, except Islamophobics.  Must make you a sorry little man, hating people for worshiping a different God to you, hey?  How many Muslims do you know, personally?  Any at all?  No, of course not, you hate all Muslims.  Now if you got to know some plain, ordinary, everyday, Muslims you might find them interesting.  However, we know that isn't possible for you, now is it?  You'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim and you'd rip the Hijab off of a Muslim than share a bus with her.  Must make you a scream at the Islamophobic dinner parties you attend, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Focus bozo. Try to respond to what is actually said. I even highlight it for you.

I cannot think of a single Islamic improvement to Australia or any other Western country - can you think of any?


They have made Australia live up to it's reputation, Soren,  Shame really 'cause it means we tolerate the intolerant like you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #550 - May 21st, 2025 at 1:30pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 11:39pm:
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In an appalling case, a UK imam (and NHS manager) has been terrorising individuals accused of ‘insulting Islam’ by saying blasphemers should be executed. There’s been a worrying lack of action from authorities. We’re quoted 👇

https://x.com/NatSecSoc/status/1924021276504449287


This is the Islam Bwhine supports  Roll Eyes

Bwhine would be happy for critics of Islam to be executed he will say they were Islamophobes who deserved it.


Oh, poor, poor, Baron, that your intolerance is so evident for all to see.  Aren't you ashamed of your attitudes?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #551 - May 21st, 2025 at 1:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 1:30pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 11:39pm:
Quote:
National Secular Society
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In an appalling case, a UK imam (and NHS manager) has been terrorising individuals accused of ‘insulting Islam’ by saying blasphemers should be executed. There’s been a worrying lack of action from authorities. We’re quoted 👇

https://x.com/NatSecSoc/status/1924021276504449287


This is the Islam Bwhine supports  Roll Eyes

Bwhine would be happy for critics of Islam to be executed he will say they were Islamophobes who deserved it.


Oh, poor, poor, Baron, that your intolerance is so evident for all to see.  Aren't you ashamed of your attitudes?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...
     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #552 - May 21st, 2025 at 6:46pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 1:28pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:38am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Must upset you, Soren, for the Australian Government to do what the Australian Constitution says?  No one else objects to Islam, except Islamophobics.  Must make you a sorry little man, hating people for worshiping a different God to you, hey?  How many Muslims do you know, personally?  Any at all?  No, of course not, you hate all Muslims.  Now if you got to know some plain, ordinary, everyday, Muslims you might find them interesting.  However, we know that isn't possible for you, now is it?  You'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim and you'd rip the Hijab off of a Muslim than share a bus with her.  Must make you a scream at the Islamophobic dinner parties you attend, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Focus bozo. Try to respond to what is actually said. I even highlight it for you.

I cannot think of a single Islamic improvement to Australia or any other Western country - can you think of any?


They have made Australia live up to it's reputation, Soren,  Shame really 'cause it means we tolerate the intolerant like you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Never mind Australia's reputation, cockwomble.  Consider Islam's:

Imam, ie Muslim holy man: “Women are animals created by Allah for men to use.  Women are no different from cows, sheep, horses, mules.  God has created these women to look like human so they wouldn’t frighten men.”

https://x.com/AzatAlsalim/status/1925067621482807721


Did you know that, ridiculous old pseud, 'having worked, studied, served with Muslims'? They were all half-animals themselves.


(Don't tell Sprinty, he'll be cross and blame Trumpy. Don't tell Mothra either, she'd blame the over-55s)
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Reply #553 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:04pm
 
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 6:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 1:28pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:38am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:10pm:
Must upset you, Soren, for the Australian Government to do what the Australian Constitution says?  No one else objects to Islam, except Islamophobics.  Must make you a sorry little man, hating people for worshiping a different God to you, hey?  How many Muslims do you know, personally?  Any at all?  No, of course not, you hate all Muslims.  Now if you got to know some plain, ordinary, everyday, Muslims you might find them interesting.  However, we know that isn't possible for you, now is it?  You'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim and you'd rip the Hijab off of a Muslim than share a bus with her.  Must make you a scream at the Islamophobic dinner parties you attend, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Focus bozo. Try to respond to what is actually said. I even highlight it for you.

I cannot think of a single Islamic improvement to Australia or any other Western country - can you think of any?


They have made Australia live up to it's reputation, Soren,  Shame really 'cause it means we tolerate the intolerant like you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Never mind Australia's reputation, cockwomble.  Consider Islam's:

Imam, ie Muslim holy man: “Women are animals created by Allah for men to use.  Women are no different from cows, sheep, horses, mules.  God has created these women to look like human so they wouldn’t frighten men.”

https://x.com/AzatAlsalim/status/1925067621482807721

Did you know that, ridiculous old pseud, 'having worked, studied, served with Muslims'? They were all half-animals themselves.

(Don't tell Sprinty, he'll be cross and blame Trumpy. Don't tell Mothra either, she'd blame the over-55s)


Muslims like Christians like every other religious group believe different aspects of their own religion.  As you haven't spoken to a Muslim, you are speaking bullshit from a tiny minority of a tiny minority all the time and accepting it as being the majority viewpoint.  Such a silly attitude but typical of person who doesn't accept anything else.  Such a silly sausage, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #554 - May 21st, 2025 at 11:18pm
 
The Islamic state didn't do anything Prophet Muhammad didn't do.

The Caliph Al Baghdadi had a Phd in Islamic studies

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