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There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Sep 25th, 2017 at 6:49am
 
Critique of religion is a fundamental Western right, not an illness.

In 1910, a French editor in the colonial ministry, Alain Quellien, published The Muslim Policy in West Africa. This work, addressed to specialists, is one of measured praise for the religion of the Koran, a “practical and indulgent” religion, better adapted to indigenous peoples, while Christianity is “too complicated, too abstract, too austere for the rudimentary and materialist mentality of the Negro.”

Seeing Islam as a civilizing force that “removes peoples from fetishism and its degrading practices” and thus facilitates European penetration, the author calls for an end to prejudices that equate this confession with barbarism and fanaticism, castigating the “Islamophobia” prevalent among colonial personnel. What is needed, on the contrary, is to tolerate Islam and to treat it impartially.

Quellien was writing as an administrator, concerned with order. Why demonize a religion that keeps peace in the empire, whatever may be the abuses, which he considers minor, of which it is guilty—that is, slavery and polygamy? Since Islam is the best ally of colonialism, believers must be protected from the nefarious influence of modern ideas; their way of life must be respected.

Maurice Delafosse, a colonial administrator living in Dakar, writes at about the same time: “Whatever may say those for whom Islamophobia is a principle of indigenous administration, France has nothing more to fear from Muslims in West Africa than from non-Muslims.” He adds: “Islamophobia therefore serves no purpose in West Africa.”

The term “Islamophobia” probably existed before these bureaucrats of the empire used it. Still, this language remained rare until the late 1980s, when the word was transformed little by little into a political tool, under the pressure of British Muslims reacting to the fatwa that the Ayatollah Khomeini had pronounced against novelist Salman Rushdie, following his publication of The Satanic Verses. With its fluid meaning, the word “Islamophobia” amalgamates two very different concepts: the persecution of believers, which is a crime; and the critique of religion, which is a right.

A newcomer in the semantic field of antiracism, this term has the ambition of making Islam untouchable by placing it on the same level as anti-Semitism.

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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #1 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 10:22am
 
I won't “quoth” you, Raven, but I am sure your post will fall on deaf ears. That is because, in the face of the ugly facts and statistics of Islamic fanaticism, the accusation of Islamophobia is the last resort of so-called, and self-congratulating, liberals.

That liberal train of thought is based on humanism, and due to its ongoing opposition to conservative views, liberalism has had its hands full for more than a century. It was caught off guard when conservative Islam began a string of atrocities in the 1990s, which continue. The liberal point of view suddenly found itself defending Islam on the grounds of multiculturalism, and abhorring Islam's blood lust.

The perception that the Western public is protected from fanatical Islam by our laws, allowed liberals the luxury of pontificating from their long assumed moral high ground. However, the frequency of atrocities by Muzlims in the West caused a shift in public opinion away from the moral assurances of liberalism. To counter this effect liberals, progressives, and humanists have fallen back on the simple expedient of accusing their critics of phobias, or irrational fears. “Islamophobia” was perfectly suited for the media as it has a pseudo-academic tone which liberals have always cultivated. Brian Ross being a perfect example.
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #2 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 10:31am
 
I have come to the conclusion  Islamphobia  is  a lefty slogan  used when they havent got an argument for what Liberals claim is atrocities ... they merely say 

ohhhhhhh but its only a few...dont worry about them  you have nothing to fear.....




makes sense to some!
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Reply #3 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 10:48am
 
cods wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 10:31am:
I have come to the conclusion  Islamphobia  is  a lefty slogan  used when they havent got an argument for what Liberals claim is atrocities ... they merely say 

ohhhhhhh but its only a few...dont worry about them  you have nothing to fear.....

makes sense to some!


Makes sense to the sensible, Cods.   Roll Eyes
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I don't know Brian. I only know the religious views of a fraction of the people I know.
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Reply #4 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:27am
 
Phobias are not a race.
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #5 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am
 
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #6 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:40am
 

On this 'ISLAM-o-PHOBIA' thing.

'ISLAM-o-PHOBIA'        isn't a 'phobia' darling.



ARGUMENT;

It can be demonstrated and established,     that ISLAM religiously requires that persons who are 'disbelievers', be reviled by moslems, and be ostracised [by moslems] from the broader [local] community.

Dictionary;
ostracize = = exclude from a society or group. banish (a citizen) from a city for five or ten years by popular vote.


It can be demonstrated and established,     that the principle precept in mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine and law, both,
1/ makes legal,
2/ and encourages the murder of those persons who are deemed to be 'disbelievers'.


It can be argued, that there is widespread acceptance within        every        mainstream moslem community,
that mainstream ISLAM teaches, that when a follower of ISLAM kills a disbeliever ['in the cause of Allah'], that the follower of ISLAM has performed an act of religious virtue.


If it can be demonstrated and established [and it can!],
that all moslems are moslems ["i am a follower of ISLAM"],
and that all moslems have embraced a latent 'religious' desire [in order to curry favour with Allah] to murder those who do not believe as they [moslems] believe,
.....then fear of ISLAM and fear of the followers of ISLAM,          isn't a 'phobia' darling.




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PROOFS, EVIDENCE.....



Let us first establish and confirm,        that apex measure, of the stature and the religious respect,           that is afforded to Mohammed ['the Messenger of Allah'], within all of ISLAM, and within every moslem community...


"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah [Mohammed] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.021



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Showing the ISLAMIC 'LEGAL' [lawful] measures that Mohammed himself, sanctioned, and authorised, in order to protect the 'integrity' of ISLAM...

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




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THE RELIGIOUSLY REQUIRED OSTRACISM, BY MOSLEMS, OF EVERY 'DISBELIEVER'


ISLAM PROMOTES COMMUNITY DIVISION AND THE SOCIAL ALIENATION OF EVERY 'DISBELIEVER'       [unless a person submits to ISLAM's own strictures - e.g. like agreeing to the murdering of those who reject ISLAM's authority]


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29




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It can be argued, that there is a widespread acceptance within        every        mainstream moslem community,
that when a follower of ISLAM kills a disbeliever ['in the cause of Allah'],      that the follower of ISLAM has performed an act of religious virtue.



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A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.

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Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005


......In public interviews
Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.





Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”



these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #7 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:40am
 


PROOFS, EVIDENCE [continued].....





Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a follower of ISLAM in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

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YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4







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Quote:

"What makes Allah happy?

Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."




Please watch this YT...
Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims
         goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #8 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:53am
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am:
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.



'ISLAM-o-PHOBIA' is used to cloak the real threats and the real criminal violence which is promoted and encouraged, by a vile religion.



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IMAGE...
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Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar outside Parramatta police headquarters


QUESTION;
What 'set off' Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar on that fateful day, to decide to murder Australian Curtis Cheng in Parramatta, NSW ???

ANSWER;
ONLY ALLAH KNOWS!



n.b.
ISLAMIC culture encouraged Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, to murder Australian Curtis Cheng.



Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar was inspired by ISLAM's imperative, which urged him TO KILL THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #9 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am:
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.


Christianity?  Couldn't agree more, Gordon.   Roll Eyes
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I don't know Brian. I only know the religious views of a fraction of the people I know.
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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #10 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am:
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.


Christianity?  Couldn't agree more, Gordon.   Roll Eyes


What are your thoughts on Wahabisim?

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Reply #11 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:12pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am:
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.


Christianity?  Couldn't agree more, Gordon.   Roll Eyes


What are your thoughts on Wahabisim?

I know it's actually spelt, "Wahhabism", Gordon.    Roll Eyes


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Re: There’s No Such Thing as Islamophobia
Reply #12 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am:
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.


Christianity?  Couldn't agree more, Gordon.   Roll Eyes


What are your thoughts on Wahabisim?

I know it's actually spelt, "Wahhabism", Gordon.    Roll Eyes




So you've got no issues with it. At least we know where you stand.
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Reply #13 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:22pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Gordon wrote on Sep 25th, 2017 at 11:36am:
Islamophobia is used to cloak a vile religion.


Christianity?  Couldn't agree more, Gordon.   Roll Eyes


What are your thoughts on Wahabisim?

I know it's actually spelt, "Wahhabism", Gordon.    Roll Eyes


So you've got no issues with it. At least we know where you stand.


Now, talk about putting words into another's mouth, Gordon.  Stop erecting your strawman arguments, please.   It's silly and it doesn't work with me.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Sep 25th, 2017 at 3:12pm
 
Anyone know what Bwian's constant YAWNING and TSK TSK TSKING is all about?

I would particularly like to hear from a Mental Health Expert 😱😂🙄
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