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Tesla touchscreens only last 5 years
Feb 9th, 2021 at 10:23pm
 
When the touchscreen goes kaput nothing really works on the Tesla.

Replacing touchscreens every 5 years is going to be costly since Tesla don't allow anyone outside of tesla to work on their sh!tboxes.

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Tesla says its faulty touchscreens that led to a recall were only built to last 5-6 years


Tesla agreed this week to recall more than 134,000 vehicles with flash memory units that may wear out unexpectedly, rendering the cars’ touchscreens useless in some cases, but it didn’t go down without a fight.

In a letter to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration made public on Tuesday, Elon Musk’s electric automaker claimed its screens weren’t failing prematurely — they were just designed that way.

Tesla’s legal chief, Al Prescott, pushed back against the regulator’s definition of a “defect,” arguing that the eMMC memory devices in question were only built to last five to six years. He said that lifespan is standard for infotainment systems in the industry.

“While the wear rate is heavily influenced by the active use of the centre display system, even more so when the vehicle is in drive or charging, given a reasonable average daily use of 1.4 cycles, the expected life would be 5-6 years,” Prescott said. “The eMMC flash memory … is inherently subject to wear, has a finite life (as NHTSA itself acknowledges), and may need replacement during the useful life of the vehicle.”

Prescott went on to argue that it would be unreasonable for federal regulators to expect electronic parts to function properly for the entire lifetime of a vehicle, given that “electronic components are becoming increasingly more complex while, at the same time, the expected useful life of vehicles has grown substantially.

“It is economically, if not technologically, infeasible to expect that such components can or should be designed to last the vehicle’s entire useful life,” Prescott said.

Teslas are unique in that nearly all of their basic functions — from climate control, to motors, seats, and brakes — are run by a computer system. That’s useful for Tesla as it can beam out over-the-air software updates that meaningfully change the car’s behaviour, something no other automaker can currently do. It also means, however, that if the computer or display fails, plenty of crucial features can go with it.

The recall affects Model S sedans built between 2012 and 2018, along with Model X crossovers built between 2016 and 2018. According to the NHTSA, failing displays could affect essential safety functions like the backup camera, turn signals, and defogger.

Tesla is recalling 134,951 vehicles in total, fewer than the roughly 158,000 cars the NHTSA initially said were impacted. It has also rolled out firmware updates that it says address the issues and alert customers when their display is near failure.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/tesla-computer-touchscreen-recall-nhtsa-desig...

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Re: Tesla touchscreens only last 5 years
Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2021 at 10:37pm
 

It almost amounts to corporate criminality.   [extortion, is a crime!]

Doesn't it ?

Designed-in redundancy [demanding 'up-grades'].



Price gouging of dependent users, who would reasonably expect such devices to last decades.

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What happens on Mars, when the touchscreens in the Mars colony, all begin to fail ?

Will Tesla send a technician from Earth, to install new touchscreens on all of the colony's devices ?     Sad




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Reply #2 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 2:04am
 
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole....

(just had to make a clean sweep of the forum titles...... apart from feedback, which they never want me to post on... why?  I know why...)
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:04am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 9th, 2021 at 10:37pm:

It almost amounts to corporate criminality.   [extortion, is a crime!]

Doesn't it ?

Designed-in redundancy [demanding 'up-grades'].



Price gouging of dependent users, who would reasonably expect such devices to last decades.

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What happens on Mars, when the touchscreens in the Mars colony, all begin to fail ?

Will Tesla send a technician from Earth, to install new touchscreens on all of the colony's devices ?     Sad






It's called "planned obsolescence", and while I don't much care for it in principle (as a consumer), you've been living under a rock if you think it is a "recent" thing...I don't see any other Corporations being charged with "extortion" by building things with the idea that consumers will need to replace them withiin a finite (often defined) time frame...
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Reply #4 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 8:32am
 
It's not built-in obsolescence.

Touch screens wear out, simple. Tesla are over priced but when a lekky car is cheaper, replacing a touch screen after 5 years will be no big deal deal when you haven't needed to do an oil change and you've done the breaks once.
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Reply #5 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 8:47am
 
Gordon wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 8:32am:
It's not built-in obsolescence.

Touch screens wear out, simple. Tesla are over priced but when a lekky car is cheaper, replacing a touch screen after 5 years will be no big deal deal when you haven't needed to do an oil change and you've done the breaks once.




THats what I was thinking myself. TOuch screens etc will wear out. I'm sure the new fandangled 3-D virtual cockpits you see now in cars will break down.
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Reply #6 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 11:54am
 
This is clearly planned obsolescence by Tesla because mobile phone touchscreens easily last more than 5 years. I have never experienced a mobile phone touchscreen failure in 20+ years of using mobile phones with touchscreens.

If this is a real issue Suppliers will emerge who can supply better replacement touchscreens if Tesla doesn't block non-Tesla replacement parts.
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Reply #7 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 5:39pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 11:54am:
This is clearly planned obsolescence by Tesla because mobile phone touchscreens easily last more than 5 years. I have never experienced a mobile phone touchscreen failure in 20+ years of using mobile phones with touchscreens.

If this is a real issue Suppliers will emerge who can supply better replacement touchscreens if Tesla doesn't block non-Tesla replacement parts.


You could make a case either way.

But as the worthies above have pointed out, they (the touch screens) may well come to be viewed as a "service item" in years to come...if the failed part is a few hundred to replace, probably no big deal. A few thousand, on the other hand...different story.

Perhaps the expectation is that the new breed of electric cars will themselves be a "replace every few years" kind of consumer item?
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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 6:45pm
 
You can't touch this.
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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 6:51pm
 
Mix_Master wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:04am:
Yadda wrote on Feb 9th, 2021 at 10:37pm:

It almost amounts to corporate criminality.   [extortion, is a crime!]

Doesn't it ?

Designed-in redundancy [demanding 'up-grades'].



Price gouging of dependent users, who would reasonably expect such devices to last decades.

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What happens on Mars, when the touchscreens in the Mars colony, all begin to fail ?

Will Tesla send a technician from Earth, to install new touchscreens on all of the colony's devices ?     Sad






It's called "planned obsolescence", and while I don't much care for it in principle (as a consumer), you've been living under a rock if you think it is a "recent" thing...I don't see any other Corporations being charged with "extortion" by building things with the idea that consumers will need to replace them withiin a finite (often defined) time frame...



do you not think if it was normal for something as important as a touchscreen with such a short life it should at least be mentioned in the manual that is supplied with the car?..... just about everything that has to be replaced in a car is noted   why not this???...
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Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 6:57pm
 
When I think about you I touch my screen.
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Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:02pm
 
replacing a touch screen has gotta be cheaper than replacing a timing belt, gaskets, air filters, oil filters, coolant, spark plugs, clutch etc etc

tesla bashers have no idea
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Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:03pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 6:51pm:
do you not think if it was normal for something as important as a touchscreen with such a short life it should at least be mentioned in the manual that is supplied with the car?..... just about everything that has to be replaced in a car is noted   why not this???...


Have you even seen the manual for a tesla cods? or are you just pretending again?
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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:05pm
 
People with fingers like cavendish bananas shouldn't be allowed to drive electric cars or touch anything.
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Reply #14 - Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:59pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 10th, 2021 at 7:05pm:
People with fingers like cavendish bananas shouldn't be allowed to drive electric cars or touch anything.


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