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Reply #165 - Feb 1st, 2021 at 10:33pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 9:25pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 9:15pm:



Oh that's rich. All those 97% papers. Actually one was 100%. Except she later showed her workings out. And unless paper specifically said that there was NO evidence of a human element in GW then it wasn't counted. Voila 100%.

And then John Cook's 97.2% of 32%.  Just too funny. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Edit: Science isn't about consensus; that's politics. If it is consensus it can't be science as only one person needs to show it wrong. Wink


You think you are that one person....Governments are acting despite your objections and cherry picking bullshit....NASA have more credibility than you who as posted no scientific papers to support your crap....Your opinion is worthless!!!

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Reply #166 - Feb 1st, 2021 at 10:33pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 7:57pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 7:46pm:
This sounds like a very good proposal to improve infrastructure and lower carbon emissions!!!

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And, Fey said, there will be a focus on equity by targeting spending toward disadvantaged communities while working to boost the number of contracts issued to minority- and women-owned businesses.

The proposal is a product of 90 “listening sessions” with people and organizations conducted since the end of last legislative session, he said.


Smiley Smiley Smiley

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/house-democrats-lay-out-massive-26b-transportatio...



your out of your mind phillip.

america needs a work ethic to rival the chinese

not some touchy feeley leftie motherhood statements



Why does the solution always put workers on third world conditions and wages ?
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Reply #167 - Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:34pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 7:57pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 7:46pm:
This sounds like a very good proposal to improve infrastructure and lower carbon emissions!!!

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And, Fey said, there will be a focus on equity by targeting spending toward disadvantaged communities while working to boost the number of contracts issued to minority- and women-owned businesses.

The proposal is a product of 90 “listening sessions” with people and organizations conducted since the end of last legislative session, he said.


Smiley Smiley Smiley

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/house-democrats-lay-out-massive-26b-transportatio...



your out of your mind phillip.

america needs a work ethic to rival the chinese

not some touchy feeley leftie motherhood statements


Correct me if I'm wrong, dear, but you said America needs to vibe with the prez who started his day at 11am, spent an average of three hours a day in the Oval Office,
worked four day weeks, and spent the rest of his time playing golf, tweeting and watching TV.

And not because of any great legislative plans, action or agenda, but because he set an example for the nation.

What were you saying about touchie-feelie motherhood statements again?

Oh, that's right. DRAIN THE SWAMP.
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Reply #168 - Feb 1st, 2021 at 11:59pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 10:33pm:
aquascoot wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 7:57pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 7:46pm:
This sounds like a very good proposal to improve infrastructure and lower carbon emissions!!!

Quote:
And, Fey said, there will be a focus on equity by targeting spending toward disadvantaged communities while working to boost the number of contracts issued to minority- and women-owned businesses.

The proposal is a product of 90 “listening sessions” with people and organizations conducted since the end of last legislative session, he said.


Smiley Smiley Smiley

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/house-democrats-lay-out-massive-26b-transportatio...



your out of your mind phillip.

america needs a work ethic to rival the chinese

not some touchy feeley leftie motherhood statements



Why does the solution always put workers on third world conditions and wages ?


Because it gives them something to bounce of of bed for.

You?
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Reply #169 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:04am
 
Biden Will Shatter Our Economy



Don't act like we didn't all see this coming.

Who do you think is giving Biden orders through his ear piece?
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Reply #170 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 1:06am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:04am:
Biden Will Shatter Our Economy



Don't act like we didn't all see this coming.

Who do you think is giving Biden orders through his ear piece?


"Turdging"! ... yeah, I like that description

Mort, taxes will rise, get ready for them, they will be "gottya over a barrel" taxes - tax increases on things you can't do without and are necessary for your car, home and work

The increases will likely be small, almost unnoticeable, because many millions of US citizens will be paying them

But they could end up being incremental, and each time, the gullible will say "Oh, that wasn't much of an increase"

Biden, will then bring in a standard/increased basic income for all workers, so they can afford the taxes


Employers will have to cut back on staff due to higher employee overheads. Small businesses will find it hard to stay in business. Large companies will start to take over and drive small businesses into the ground

Unemployment will rise, so Biden might abandon the time limit on payout of unemployment cheques per unemployed person, and increase the unemployment handout

The RINOS will be in agreement with all this Biden destruction, they are as bad as the Democrats - traitorous Globalists!
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Re: biden - less than a week in
Reply #171 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:23am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 1:06am:
Mortdooley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:04am:
Biden Will Shatter Our Economy



Don't act like we didn't all see this coming.

Who do you think is giving Biden orders through his ear piece?


"Turdging"! ... yeah, I like that description

Mort, taxes will rise, get ready for them, they will be "gottya over a barrel" taxes - tax increases on things you can't do without and are necessary for your car, home and work

The increases will likely be small, almost unnoticeable, because many millions of US citizens will be paying them

But they could end up being incremental, and each time, the gullible will say "Oh, that wasn't much of an increase"

Biden, will then bring in a standard/increased basic income for all workers, so they can afford the taxes


Employers will have to cut back on staff due to higher employee overheads. Small businesses will find it hard to stay in business. Large companies will start to take over and drive small businesses into the ground

Unemployment will rise, so Biden might abandon the time limit on payout of unemployment cheques per unemployed person, and increase the unemployment handout

The RINOS will be in agreement with all this Biden destruction, they are as bad as the Democrats - traitorous Globalists!


It's the same as here in Oz.

The LNP "Best money managers" have raised our Public Debt to near a trillion bucks. Eventually, Labor will need to come in and work towards paying that debt down.

Seems only yesterday that Abbott and Co. were screaming "Debt and Deficit Disaster", and then decrying Labor's borrowing to stimulate economic activity when such stimulus was needed, during the GFC, and that same Party has raised Public Debt to eye-watering levels. As always, it's only OK when "they" do it...

Nothing quite like the smell of hypocrisy in the morning... Roll Eyes


Same with Trump. Gave a sugar hit to an already stimulated economy (which he inherited), and ran up a truckload of debt effectively pump-priming the stock market and share buybacks.

Now, his "followers" are decrying the fact that someone - Biden, most likely - is going to have to raise taxes in order to begin paying some of that money back, as well as pay for services, and begin transitioning the economy to something a bit "greener"*.

*Not that he's the only one, mind. I note that GM - off their own "bat", so to speak - are planning to phase out production of ICE-powered vehicles by 2035. Do they believe in AGW? Or are they (like others) "reading the tea leaves"?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35352321/gm-eliminate-gas-vehicles-2035/

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Re: biden - less than a week in
Reply #172 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:25am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:04am:
Biden Will Shatter Our Economy



Don't act like we didn't all see this coming.

Who do you think is giving Biden orders through his ear piece?




Is that serial pervert still on TV?
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Reply #173 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 10:45am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:04am:
Biden Will Shatter Our Economy



Don't act like we didn't all see this coming.

Who do you think is giving Biden orders through his ear piece?


Oh, I'd say Darkie, Mort, for sure. But do you know?

We predicted Dear Leader would be an economic disaster and you said ooh. We even showed the accounting by Price Waterhouse: Hillary versus Trump, with his tax cuts and expensive promises.

Trump, of course, surpassed even that. Who could tell Trump would triple the government deficit in one term - before covid?

I hate talking politics, but the jury's out. Trump turned Obama's GFC deficit of 9 tril into a deficit of 29 - in one term, before covid.

Obama picked up a global financial crisis and turned it around. George W Bush took a Clinton surplus and spent it on war. Clinton took on a George HW deficit and turned it into a surplus, and on and on it goes.

Read my lips: no new taxes, no?

Democrat presidents have been cleaning up after Republican deficits since WWII. Biden's left with the mess created by Trump.

Now forgive me, Mort, for taking your predictions with a grain of salt.

We will make America great again, no?
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Reply #174 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 11:51am
 
Mix_Master wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:23am:
It's the same as here in Oz.



That's right, it's International Socialism, all western nations are adopting it. Stalin had no need to worry about it becoming international and now, Biden and the Rinos are helping it along like the Libs and Labs are doing here

Problem is, and as Morrison said yesterday, "We can't run the country on taxpayers money (stimulus) forever" - Socialism runs out of other peoples' money

"Socialism" is "Famine"

Where's the "Feast" in Biden's anti-business policies?
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Reply #175 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:41pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 11:51am:
Mix_Master wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:23am:
It's the same as here in Oz.



That's right, it's International Socialism, all western nations are adopting it. Stalin had no need to worry about it becoming international and now, Biden and the Rinos are helping it along like the Libs and Labs are doing here

Problem is, and as Morrison said yesterday, "We can't run the country on taxpayers money (stimulus) forever" - Socialism runs out of other peoples' money

"Socialism" is "Famine"

Where's the "Feast" in Biden's anti-business policies?


Where's the response to the LNP raising Public Debt to a trillion dollars, that's what I want to know.

Have things somehow changed in the last decade, from an "all debt is bad" ('cos Labor racked it up staving off a recession during the GFC), to an "all debt is good" thing, ('cos the LNP racked more of it up)?

Do have anything to say about that?

Or is that better ignored?
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Reply #176 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:53pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 10:33pm:
You think you are that one person.



No I don't. There are climate skeptics out there with far more qualifications than mine.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 1st, 2021 at 10:33pm:
NASA have more credibility than you who as posted no scientific papers to support your crap.



And yet you cite NASA Consensus.. And I have even shown where those of the supposed 97% claims are in fact wrong. But you believe them implicitly. Now that makes you a dickhead.

From Cook et al 2013 with additions for the number of papers found to mach their descriptor -

1,Explicitly endorses and quantifies AGW as 50+% : 64
2,Explicitly endorses but does not quantify or minimize: 922
3,Implicitly endorses AGW without minimizing it: 2910
4,No Position: 7970
5,Implicitly minimizes/rejects AGW: 54
6,Explicitly minimizes/rejects AGW but does not quantify: 15
7,Explicitly minimizes/rejects AGW as less than 50%: 9

https://www.econlib.org/archives/2014/03/16_not_97_agree.html

So just 64 papers out of 11,944 reckoned that AGW was more than 50% of any warming. That's 0.5% of papers.

So let's see the claim 97% of climate papers agree. Just what do they agree on? That there is warming? That this warming is dangerous? That this warming has been shown OUTSIDE the models?

"Self-limiting, Logarithmic: For the past several weeks, TWTW has been discussing the research on the greenhouse effect done by W. A. van Wijngaarden and W. Happer (W & H) using the HITRAN database that began in the 1960s and is well established and tested. This database of both observations and calculations is used to predict and simulate the transmission and emission of electromagnetic radiation in the atmosphere. Using the calculations of W & H, Professor of Physics, emeritus, Howard Hayden extended their findings. 

The earth is cooled by outgoing infrared radiation, which has a longer wavelength than visible light. Greenhouse gases interfere with infrared radiation by absorbing and re-emitting photons at particularly wavelengths. Expressed simply, as the concentration of a specific greenhouse gas, CO2, increases, its effectiveness diminishes. In other words, as the amount of CO2 increases, its ability to further increase temperatures decreases. This is similar to an automobile approaching maximum speed. It will not go much faster no matter how hard the driver presses on the accelerator.

In the highly influential 1979 Charney report, the committee attempted to get around this self-limiting characteristic by claiming, without physical evidence, that water vapor will greatly amplify the influence of CO2. But this amplification has not been found in over 40 years of atmospheric research. Thus, the Charney report is another example of one of the many dead-ends that scientists have speculated about greenhouse gases.

There is nothing wrong with such speculation and errors, as long as scientists involved recognize them and correct the errors. As Richard Feynman explained in his famous lectures, scientific theory starts with a guess. The important step is testing that guess against all appropriate physical evidence. 

A common analogy is that greenhouse gases in the atmosphere act as a blanket protecting the earth from cooling too rapidly. Using that analogy, one can say that adding carbon dioxide to today’s atmosphere is like adding a handkerchief on top of a warm quilt. There is some effect, but it’s not noticeable."

http://sepp.org/twtwfiles/2020/TWTW%2012-5-20.pdf
The paper is -

https://wvanwijngaarden.info.yorku.ca/files/2020/12/WThermal-Radiationf.pdf?x459...

"Summary: Cook et al. (2013) attempted to categorize 11,944 abstracts of papers (not entire papers) to their level of endorsement of AGW and found 7930 (66%) held no position on AGW. While only 65 papers (0.5%) explicitly endorsed and quantified AGW as +50% (Humans are the primary cause).

Their methodology was so fatally flawed that they falsely classified skeptic papers as endorsing AGW, apparently believing to know more about the papers than their authors.

Cook et al.’s author self-ratings simply confirmed the worthlessness of their methodology, as they were not representative of the sample since only 4% of the authors (1189 of 29,083) rated their own papers and of these, 63 % disagreed with their abstract ratings.

[ Journal Coverage ]

Energy Policy – Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the literature: A re-analysis (PDF) (October 2014)
Energy Policy – Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the literature: Rejoinder (PDF) (October 2014)
Science & Education – Climate Consensus and ‘Misinformation’: A Rejoinder to Agnotology, Scientific Consensus, and the Teaching and Learning of Climate Change (PDF) (August 2013)"

https://climatechangedispatch.com/97-articles-refuting-the-97-consensus/

I have only included journal articles. Wink
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Reply #177 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 4:56pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:53pm:
And yet you cite NASA Consensus.. And I have even shown where those of the supposed 97% claims are in fact wrong. But you believe them implicitly. Now that makes you a dickhead.



So you have produced no scientific "peer reviewed" papers that support your belief that Global Warming is bullshit....You quote economists (with links to the White House "Trump") and sceptics who have no scientific qualifications....Provide scientific proof Global Warming is not happening not sceptic sites that ignore the facts....If there are actually any scientific papers that support your argument post them and stop wasting my time with climate sceptic bullshit....Your references are known climate change denial sites you dickhead!!!

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Reply #178 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 5:08pm
 
Mix_Master wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:41pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 11:51am:
Mix_Master wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 8:23am:
It's the same as here in Oz.



That's right, it's International Socialism, all western nations are adopting it. Stalin had no need to worry about it becoming international and now, Biden and the Rinos are helping it along like the Libs and Labs are doing here

Problem is, and as Morrison said yesterday, "We can't run the country on taxpayers money (stimulus) forever" - Socialism runs out of other peoples' money

"Socialism" is "Famine"

Where's the "Feast" in Biden's anti-business policies?


Where's the response to the LNP raising Public Debt to a trillion dollars, that's what I want to know.

Have things somehow changed in the last decade, from an "all debt is bad" ('cos Labor racked it up staving off a recession during the GFC), to an "all debt is good" thing, ('cos the LNP racked more of it up)?

Do have anything to say about that?

Or is that better ignored?


its a catastrophe and a disgrace
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Reply #179 - Feb 2nd, 2021 at 5:54pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 4:56pm:
lee wrote on Feb 2nd, 2021 at 12:53pm:
And yet you cite NASA Consensus.. And I have even shown where those of the supposed 97% claims are in fact wrong. But you believe them implicitly. Now that makes you a dickhead.



So you have produced no scientific "peer reviewed" papers that support your belief that Global Warming is bullshit.



MAN MADE global warming.
You need to pin it on humans and you need to demonstrate that all the political responses are effective.


'Oh, energy is too expensive in the West, let's shift all manufacturing to China. We'll still have the 'knowledge economy"' except China steals all the knowledge and now makes everything AND claims oppressed third world status for carbon dioxide quotas.

Western politicians sold out the West precisely because of people like you who keep them in power. You WANT them to lie to you for your vote. So they do.






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