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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77711 Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #15 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:21pm Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:11pm: What is 'society', no-brow Gino? You? shriveled up corpses in waiting like you don't count Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:11pm: And it is not 'ever changing'. sure it is. You just prefer to bleat nonsense and pretend otherwise.
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Reply #16 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:22pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 1:50pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:53pm:

Ajax wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:42pm:

My 2 cents

Pooftas and Dykes do have a deviate mind,

By nature which has twisted them into being what they are,

Their minds can go where most cannot.

You have earned a refund of your 2 cents.

Your contribution is worthless bigotry.

If you weren’t so ugly I’d kiss you.

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If a man also lie with mankind,
as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death;
their blood shall be upon them.

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Re: What is deviant, what is normal?
Reply #17 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 8:13pm

Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:00pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 4:03pm:

@ Reply #8,
Frank,
That image says so much about 'us' today,
and about how 'normal' our deviant, 'popular', mainstream 'culture', has become.

Become? Can I suggest you explore ancient Greek history and that of the Middle East?
https://onditmagazine.medium.com/a-queer-history-of-islamic-art-e7019064e094
http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub406/entry-6202.html

They all recognised their deviants as deviants. They frowned at deviance when it got out of hand, claimed more for itself than it deserves. That is unchanged in my view. Frowning is not persecuting. For a species dependent on heterosexual sex for its propagation, homosexuals will always be a deviation, and inversion, a perversion, a luxury affordable only as long as it is a niche deviation, not the norm.

In that sense homosexuality cannot be normal, only tolerated as an affordable minority perversion. Recognising deviants is not to persecute them. To see a hunchback AS A hunchback is not thereby a cause to persecute him. Nevertheless, he IS a hunchback.

After gay 'marriage' we now have transgenderism and 'people who give birth', ie not women.

The deep misogyny of 'gays' is evident in drag queens and transgender agitation for blokes to be allowed to be treated as women. Homosexual men have an abiding but deeply suppressed hatred of women. They want to displace them. Nothing 'gay'
about them. The 'gay' is just Orwellian Newspeak.

Your twisted logic deserves no detailed response either for it’s historic ignorance or for your hysterical condemnations. How very satisfying it must make you feel believing you're innately superior without having to do anything other than be your mindless, white-bread self.
One point I must draw attention to, your total misinterpretation of gay men’s attitude to women. I have more close female friends than males, either straight or gay. We have an understanding and sympathy with women most straight males can’t even begin to comprehend. In fact most straight men have very little understanding of women. You’ll never have the privilege of knowing that.
As to this ‘abiding but deeply suppressed hatred of woman' I’d suggest it’s straight males who are far more guilty of that. History obviously isn’t your strong point. Reminds me of a remark I overheard at a place of employment where I was the only openly gay male. "If it wasn’t for that smelly thing between their legs chicks would be stacked ten high at the tip and set on fire"

This is the last time I’ll bother to address your ill-informed views.

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Reply #18 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 8:42pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Frank wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 6:00pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 4:03pm:

@ Reply #8,
Frank,
That image says so much about 'us' today,
and about how 'normal' our deviant, 'popular', mainstream 'culture', has become.

Become? Can I suggest you explore ancient Greek history and that of the Middle East?
https://onditmagazine.medium.com/a-queer-history-of-islamic-art-e7019064e094
http://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56/sub406/entry-6202.html

They all recognised their deviants as deviants. They frowned at deviance when it got out of hand, claimed more for itself than it deserves. That is unchanged in my view. Frowning is not persecuting. For a species dependent on heterosexual sex for its propagation, homosexuals will always be a deviation, and inversion, a perversion, a luxury affordable only as long as it is a niche deviation, not the norm.

In that sense homosexuality cannot be normal, only tolerated as an affordable minority perversion. Recognising deviants is not to persecute them. To see a hunchback AS A hunchback is not thereby a cause to persecute him. Nevertheless, he IS a hunchback.

After gay 'marriage' we now have transgenderism and 'people who give birth', ie not women.

The deep misogyny of 'gays' is evident in drag queens and transgender agitation for blokes to be allowed to be treated as women. Homosexual men have an abiding but deeply suppressed hatred of women. They want to displace them. Nothing 'gay'
about them. The 'gay' is just Orwellian Newspeak.

Your twisted logic deserves no detailed response either for it’s historic ignorance or for your hysterical condemnations. How very satisfying it must make you feel believing you're innately superior without having to do anything other than be your mindless, white-bread self.
One point I must draw attention to, your total misinterpretation of gay men’s attitude to women. I have more close female friends than males, either straight or gay. We have an understanding and sympathy with women most straight males can’t even begin to comprehend. In fact most straight men have very little understanding of women. You’ll never have the privilege of knowing that.
As to this ‘abiding but deeply suppressed hatred of woman' I’d suggest it’s straight males who are far more guilty of that. History obviously isn’t your strong point. Reminds me of a remark I overheard at a place of employment where I was the only openly gay male. "If it wasn’t for that smelly thing between their legs chicks would be stacked ten high at the tip and set on fire"

This is the last time I’ll bother to address your ill-informed views.

As I said, you, like all your kind, sound very far from gay and happy and adjusted. More seething, resentful, bewildered, sordid and ashamed. Not gay and sunny and redolent at all.
I am just noticing. I didnt make you an invert. It is an affliction and you each bear it as best you can.

But you wouldn't wish it on your nieces and nephews.

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Reply #19 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 10:58pm

Oh its such a complicated world.

Over-Indulgent Gays & Over-Populating Rednecks?

Gays: Sexual Under-Achievers/$$$ Over-Achievers?
Rednecks: Sexual Over-Achievers/$$$ Under-Achievers?

When the Gay Mardi Gras began in Sydney, that's when the Redneck violence behaviour increased also - on the streets. So much, that they had to put in strict lock-down procedures.

Would we consider two wrongs not making a right here?
Rednecks & Gays calling each other the Poison and themselves the Remedy.

...playing everyone else off as fools.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53070 Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #20 - Dec 30^th, 2020 at 11:02pm The last Redneck that called me Gay - I slept with his girlfriend. The last Gay that called me a Redneck - I sued his arse like a passion.
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Reply #21 - Dec 31^st, 2020 at 9:42am

Ayn Marx wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 5:32pm:

Ajax wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 12:42pm:

My 2 cents

Pooftas and Dykes do have a deviate mind,
By nature which has twisted them into being what they are,
Their minds can go where most cannot.

Please tell us all where the minds of heterosexual rapists and pedophiles go ?

Both are psychologically twisted people, just like homosexuals.

It was only thanks to that criminal and pedophile Alfred Kinsey and the fact that homos protested so vigorously that homosexuality was struck from the DSM as a mental illness.

BTW the United Nations used Alfred Kinsey's work to push SSM and the transgender agenda in to every nation on Earth, just shows at what stage the world is at, pushing pedophilia and homosexuality into the psyche of all nations on Earth.

https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=luso...

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Pomeroy reported that by “1946, [Kinsey], Gebhard and I had interviewed about 1,400 convicted sex offenders in penal institutions scattered over a dozen states.”126 Kinsey admitted that his “normal” population included 1,400 sex offenders127 as well as prisoners, sexual psychopaths, homosexuals and “underworld” members. 128 As Pomeroy said, Kinsey often commented that prisoners and sex offenders were no different than everyone else, they just got caught. 129 As nonchalantly displayed in five tables (see Table 34, left, Male volume, page 180). Kinsey also included in his “male subjects” from 319 to 1,888 boys and infants. 130 Also, of his alleged nearly 8,000 female “subjects,” Kinsey said he excluded those who did not fit into his pre-conceived ideas.131 Indeed, “about 75 percent of the “data” collected by Kinsey’s team were never used.132

https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1073&context=luso...

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 53070 Gender:	Re: What is deviant, what is normal? Reply #24 - Dec 31^st, 2020 at 2:44pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 30^th, 2020 at 11:49am: Yadda is the blackest, most wretched example of the opposite of normality. Yadda is a propaganda tool. And yet you LTYC are the most deviant and perverted Poster on this Forum.
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Reply #25 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:57am

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Homosexual behaviour has been observed in hundreds of species, from bison to penguins. It is still not clear to what extent homosexuality in humans or other animals is genetic (rather than, say, due to hormonal extremes during embryonic development), but there are many mechanisms that could explain why gene variants linked to homosexuality are maintained in a population.

A common assumption is that homosexuality means not having children, but this is not necessarily true, especially in cultures other than our own. Until it became acceptable for same-sex couples to live together in western countries, many homosexual people had partners of the opposite sex. In some traditional societies, various forms of non-exclusive homosexuality were common.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13674-evolution-myths-natural-selection-cannot-explain-homosexuality/#ixzz6iFklOuAz

If Homosexuality is common in the animal kingdom and common throughout human history then it seems to not be deviant.

I would argue that those telling consenting adults what they are allowed to do in their own bedrooms are the true deviants

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Reply #26 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:43am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 10:57am:

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Homosexual behaviour has been observed in hundreds of species, from bison to penguins. It is still not clear to what extent homosexuality in humans or other animals is genetic (rather than, say, due to hormonal extremes during embryonic development), but there are many mechanisms that could explain why gene variants linked to homosexuality are maintained in a population.

A common assumption is that homosexuality means not having children, but this is not necessarily true, especially in cultures other than our own. Until it became acceptable for same-sex couples to live together in western countries, many homosexual people had partners of the opposite sex. In some traditional societies, various forms of non-exclusive homosexuality were common.

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13674-evolution-myths-natural-selection-cannot-explain-homosexuality/#ixzz6iFklOuAz

If Homosexuality is common in the animal kingdom and common throughout human history then it seems to not be deviant.

I would argue that those telling consenting adults what they are allowed to do in their own bedrooms are the true deviants

The dominant bull / stag fights of all rivals so he can pass on his genes by mating with all the cows, this is true with 99% of species in mother nature.

It’s only the ones that are sick and frail or just not strong enough to mount any kind of challenge to the dominant stag that turn to homosexuality and form their own little groups.

Ha…!...You think I’m telling consenting adults what to do in their own bedroom…….Malarkey…..!

They can jam bedposts up their behinds, don’t give a rats.

But what does concern and piss me off is when the homosexual agenda incognito is taught to children in our educational system starting young at primary school that being homosexual and transgender is normal.

No it is not normal….!

The majority of kids (97%) that are normal will grow up to be heterosexual.

If transgender and homosexual is normal what does that make the 97% who will be heterosexual, does that make them weird or abnormal.

It’s only a small minority of people that turn to homosexuality and that could be because they were abused as a child themselves, these people need psychiatric help not encouragement that this type of behaviour is NORMAL.

Leave children alone FFS…let them be kids, they like the rest of us will learn all about it one day.

They don't need some transgender agenda in primary school telling them its ok to become sodomites.

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Reply #27 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:59am

Ajax wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:43am:

It’s only a small minority of people that turn to homosexuality and that could be because they were abused as a child themselves, these people need psychiatric help not encouragement that this type of behaviour is NORMAL.

Leave children alone FFS…let them be kids, they like the rest of us will learn all about it one day.

You do realise that you are contradicting yourself. Saying they should be forced to go to a psychiatrist but then saying that kids should be left alone.
And dont pretend that it's only the safe schools program that you object to. That's just the latest bee in the conservatives bonnet

Ajax wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:43am:

They don't need some transgender agenda in primary school telling them its ok to become sodomites.

So why does it always end up with anal sex? Never any mention that more than half homosexuals are women. I suggest that the conservatives constant mention of anal sex says more about their own hangups than it does about the people they are trying to denegrate.

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Reply #28 - Jan 1^st, 2021 at 12:27pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:59am:

Ajax wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:43am:

It’s only a small minority of people that turn to homosexuality and that could be because they were abused as a child themselves, these people need psychiatric help not encouragement that this type of behaviour is NORMAL.

Leave children alone FFS…let them be kids, they like the rest of us will learn all about it one day.

You do realise that you are contradicting yourself. Saying they should be forced to go to a psychiatrist but then saying that kids should be left alone.
And dont pretend that it's only the safe schools program that you object to. That's just the latest bee in the conservatives bonnet

Ajax wrote on Jan 1^st, 2021 at 11:43am:

They don't need some transgender agenda in primary school telling them its ok to become sodomites.

So why does it always end up with anal sex? Never any mention that more than half homosexuals are women. I suggest that the conservatives constant mention of anal sex says more about their own hangups than it does about the people they are trying to denegrate.

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I'm not going to argue with you today, we're just going to have to agree on disagreeing.

I'm hung over and it's a beautiful day I'm off to another barbecue, have a good one.... Wink

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