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Reply #225 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:51am
 
Yadda wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:41am:
a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


I just have one question.

In Islam muslims universally agree that the religion consists of 5 core tenets. Basically, if a muslim is asked to summarise Islam as succintly as possible, they would invariably cite these 5 tenets as being the 'core' of the religion.

I know a learned man as yourself knows exactly what these 5 tenets are.

So my question is, which of these tenets specifically causes human beings to transform into homocidal maniacs - and why?

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Reply #226 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:58am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:51am:
Yadda wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:41am:

a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?



I just have one question.

In Islam muslims universally agree that the religion consists of 5 core tenets. Basically, if a muslim is asked to summarise Islam as succintly as possible, they would invariably cite these 5 tenets as being the 'core' of the religion.

I know a learned man as yourself knows exactly what these 5 tenets are.

So my question is, which of these tenets specifically causes human beings to transform into homocidal maniacs - and why?






First pillar: Shahada (Profession of Faith)
Second Pillar: Salat (Prayer)
Third Pillar: Zakat (Almsgiving)
Fourth Pillar: Sawm (Fasting)
Fifth Pillar: Hajj (Pilgrimage)


I will reply in more depth.

Other matters right now, have a call on my immediate attention.



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Reply #227 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 12:18pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:23am:
Muslims are morally equated with Nazis just about every day on this forum.




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Well, their parallel totalitarianism is inescapable. The parallel jew hate ditto. The relentless control of every aspect of life ditto. The division into first and second class citizens ditto.

Nazism, Maoism, Stalinism - Islam has a lot in common with them. With liberal democracy, not so much.

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Reply #228 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 5:48pm
 
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There is a crude, but relentless campaign to dehumanise muslim people here.


Oh gee the poor poor muzzie is the never ending victim.

A few from the hundreds in the qur'an which promote islamic rape torture hatred and murder.

qur'an 8.67: It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made a great slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

qur'an 3.28: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.

qur'an 5.51: O ye who believe!
take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors
: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

qur'an 9.23: O ye who believe!
take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith
: if any of you do so, they do wrong.

qur'an 98.6: Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye).
They are the worst of creatures


qur'an 8.55: For the
vilest of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him
: They will not believe.

qur'an 66.9: O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

Well gee I dunno but it appears that allah certainly doesn't want the muslims to fit in with us, allah wants the muslims to be supremacists, who lord it over us.

This doctrine is having the required effect, as we see the never ending human rights atrocities being committed by muslims globally, on a daily scale.

When are muslims going to be honest about islam allah muhammad and the qur'an?

Until that day comes, there will always be muslims committing human rights atrocities against the non believers, in 100% obedience to islam allah muhammad and the qur'an.
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Reply #229 - Dec 24th, 2020 at 11:38pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 12:18pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 8:23am:


Muslims are morally equated with Nazis just about every day on this forum.




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Well, their parallel totalitarianism is inescapable. The parallel jew hate ditto. The relentless control of every aspect of life ditto. The division into first and second class citizens ditto.

Nazism, Maoism, Stalinism - Islam has a lot in common with them. With liberal democracy, not so much.



Oh, dear. The old boy just used the L word.

Do you want to tell him, or shall I?

FD? Do you have a quote, dear?
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Reply #230 - Dec 25th, 2020 at 7:37am
 
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Jews are horrible, horrible people....


Well if you look at it from the towelheads perspective from Abraham to Moses and beyond, the Jews in search of their promised land killed all before them, men women and children and in some cases the animals that belonged to the people they slaughtered.

So I can understand why towelheads would say such things about the Jews in the past.

Fast forward to 2020 with the Palestinians, Iranians etc relations don't seem to be any better.

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Reply #231 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 9:41am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:51am:
Yadda wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:41am:
a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


I just have one question.

In Islam muslims universally agree that the religion consists of 5 core tenets. Basically, if a muslim is asked to summarise Islam as succintly as possible, they would invariably cite these 5 tenets as being the 'core' of the religion.

I know a learned man as yourself knows exactly what these 5 tenets are.

So my question is, which of these tenets specifically causes human beings to transform into homocidal maniacs - and why?



Here is an example of a Muslim trying to hide the Quran.

Very sneaky Gandalf.
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Reply #233 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:03pm
 
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the Jews in search of their promised land killed all before them, men women and children and in some cases the animals that belonged to the people they slaughtered.


The Hebrews certainly did do some depraved things about 1410 years B.C..

At that time there were multiple pagan gods who demanded human sacrifice, animal sex, pornographic human sexual activity, skinning people alive, stoning people to death, amputations etc. were everywhere, across all cultures and gods.

People always quote the various commands to the Hebrews which told them to ruthlessly exterminate these people and their animals, they never quote:

Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

Deuteronomy 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

So the Jews were told to stop when they gained the promised land.

Entirely different to the qur'an, which tells muslims to rape torture and slaughter for all times until the entire world, (all religion is for allah) is dominated by muslims.

Today the 21st century what matter the most is, the fact that muslims are on their satanical journey of rape torture and mass murder, right across the globe.

It's not the Jews, so why do people try and excuse todays (the 21st century A.D.) muslims, with the deeds of the Hebrews 1410 B.C.?
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Reply #234 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:05pm
 
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So my question is, which of these tenets specifically causes human beings to transform into homocidal maniacs - and why?

Fight/ Kill/ Murder:-       

In the English language, Fight can mean to : Combat, Struggle, Resist, Strife, War, do battle.

In the Arabic language, one word QATL with its DERIVATIVES can mean all of the following:

Fight: Qital, Kifah, 'Airak, Harb, etc

Kill: Qatl, Thabh, Jazr

Murder: Qatl

Slaughter: Thabh, Jazr

Slay: Qatl

KILL, MURDER, FIGHT, COMBAT, SLAY, PUT TO DEATH, SLAUGHTER, ETC.

Invariably, the interpreters of the Quran use the more 'sanitised' terms to convey a more moderate connotation. This word Qital, Qatl, Qatala, Yaqtulu, Youqatilou,  is usually used against all those who do not believe in Muhammad and his Quran.

This word and its derivatives are repeated in the Quran and Ahadith at least 35,213 times.


So KILL, MURDER, FIGHT, COMBAT, SLAY, PUT TO DEATH, SLAUGHTER, ETC. are taught 35,213 times in the holy books.

164 Jihad Verses in the Koran

The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008


164 verses of jihad in the quran plus the words KILL, MURDER, FIGHT, COMBAT, SLAY, PUT TO DEATH, SLAUGHTER, ETC. are taught 35,213 times in the holy books.

How many time is the word love used in the qur'an?

The word love, hubb in its various grammatical forms, is used 69 times in the Qur'an. The writer has divided these into five categories:

(1) Man's Love of Things (15 times)
(2) Human Love (15 Times)
(3) Man's Love for God (7 times)
(4) Negative - God Does Not Love The ... (22 times)
(5) God's love for Man (20 times)


A mere 79 times love is mentioned and 22 times this teaches that allah does not love certain people.

So we have over 35,000 times the muslims are told to slaughter etc., 164 verses of jihad and 79 verses where the word love is used, 22 times it is actually used to tell muslims allah does not love something.


Amount of Text Devoted to the Kafir

The Koran says that the Kafir may be deceived, plotted against, hated, enslaved, mocked, tortured and worse
. The word is usually translated as “unbeliever” but this translation is wrong. The word “unbeliever” is logically and emotionally neutral, whereas, Kafir is the most abusive, prejudiced and hateful word in any language.

Islam devotes a great amount of energy to the Kafir. The majority (64%) of the Koran is devoted to the Kafir, and nearly all of the Sira (81%) deals with Mohammed’s struggle with them. The Hadith (Traditions) devotes 32% of the text to Kafirs1. Overall, the Trilogy devotes 60% of its content to the Kafir.

Hadith 37%
Sira 81%
Koran 64%
Total 60%

[b]Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa
, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia. A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves. Allah hates the Kafir, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly


60% of the qur'an devoted to domineering and slaughtering the kufir.

164 verses of jihad in the quran plus the words KILL, MURDER, FIGHT, COMBAT, SLAY, PUT TO DEATH, SLAUGHTER, ETC. are taught 35,213 times in the holy books.

The word love is used a lousy 79 times and 22 times it is actually used to say allah does not love something.


Yeah gee, I wonder just which part of islam causes muslims to be homicidal maniacs and why?
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Reply #235 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:09pm
 
moses wrote on Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:03pm:
It's not the Jews, so why do people try and excuse todays (the 21st century A.D.) muslims, with the deeds of the Hebrews 1410 B.C.?


... because the killing and pillaging of Jews against the Palestinians has not stopped?

A former Prime Minister of Israel Ariel Sharon was involved in the genocide of the Shabra Shattila massacre of women, children, and olds.

If their leaders are mass murderers, what are the rest like?
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Reply #236 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:16pm
 
Is that the reason the muslims are the worlds number one terrorist problem?

It's all the Jews fault?
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Reply #237 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 3:30pm
 
moses wrote on Dec 26th, 2020 at 2:03pm:
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the Jews in search of their promised land killed all before them, men women and children and in some cases the animals that belonged to the people they slaughtered.


The Hebrews certainly did do some depraved things about 1410 years B.C..

At that time there were multiple pagan gods who demanded human sacrifice, animal sex, pornographic human sexual activity, skinning people alive, stoning people to death, amputations etc. were everywhere, across all cultures and gods.

People always quote the various commands to the Hebrews which told them to ruthlessly exterminate these people and their animals, they never quote:

Deuteronomy 12:8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.

Deuteronomy 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

So the Jews were told to stop when they gained the promised land.

Entirely different to the qur'an, which tells muslims to rape torture and slaughter for all times until the entire world, (all religion is for allah) is dominated by muslims.

Today the 21st century what matter the most is, the fact that muslims are on their satanical journey of rape torture and mass murder, right across the globe.

It's not the Jews, so why do people try and excuse todays (the 21st century A.D.) muslims, with the deeds of the Hebrews 1410 B.C.?


As far as I’m concerned told straight from the horse’s mouth (a Jewish man), the Jews and what we call the Muslims today came from one father Abraham in that he had Isaac with Sarah and Ishmael with Hagar, brothers in arms from the same father.

The old testament is not only a holy book for some but also a history book of the Jews and in that history book, the Jews perform genocide on a number of occasions in search of that promised land.

Like for example the genocide of the Canaanites, Amalekites, Midianites but to name a few, , the old testament is written in blood, stoning people to death, cutting limbs off blinding people etc etc.

If it’s better than the Koran it must only be slightly better, because both these books would be in the same section of a library possibly side by side.

Why the Jews and the Arabs hate each other goes all the way to Abraham and maybe sooner than him but what is written is enough to get the picture.

The old testament god was certainly a blood thirsty god or was it written that way to justify the genocide, who knows, maybe god is blood thirsty and enjoys watching people spill each other’s blood.

But Jesus tells us otherwise in the new testament that God loves all people no matter nationality and some of the prophets tell us that even though the Jews are plentiful like grains of sand on a beach only a handful will be saved.

If Jesus had found milk and honey with the Pharisees (priests) and scribes (theologians) I would most likely not believe his story, the fact that the Pharisees and scribes put him on the cross through the romans was initially something that attracted me to look into JC.

You mean to tell me today if the Jews could do away with all the Palestinians they wouldn't, or the Iranians or Iraqis.
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Reply #238 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 3:59pm
 


@ Reply #237,

Ajax,

You are mistaken.

Those things happened.

But not as a consequence of a blunt conquest.

But the bible states the killings of those people, were as a final punishment/judgement upon the inhabitants [in situ] of the land.

Those things happened ~3,400 years ago.

Harsh ?  Yes.

Cruel ?  Yes.

Any more harsh or cruel than what men are doing to each other today ?

We really 'haven't come very far' have we ?




Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23  Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
24  Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25  And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26  Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27  (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)
28  That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29  For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
30  Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.




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Reply #239 - Dec 26th, 2020 at 7:03pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:51am:
Yadda wrote on Dec 24th, 2020 at 9:41am:
a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


I just have one question.

In Islam muslims universally agree that the religion consists of 5 core tenets. Basically, if a muslim is asked to summarise Islam as succintly as possible, they would invariably cite these 5 tenets as being the 'core' of the religion.

I know a learned man as yourself knows exactly what these 5 tenets are.

So my question is, which of these tenets specifically causes human beings to transform into homocidal maniacs - and why?




An extremely and laughably dishonest - and knowingly so -  question, put knowingly dishonourably and lying by a discredited  propagandist for Mohammed.


Why?

Show us the Muslims who live solely and exclusively by only those 5 tenets of Islam. Your lives are micro-managed by Muslim dogma. You are drained of any individuality, freedom, creativity, you are like the worst orthodox jews and their mad rituals. Except you want impose it on others, by violence.



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