It fascinates me!
I’ve only ever seen two ... The Maheno at Fraser Island in Qld, and at Moreton island.
We went to Moreton Island, did a small shuttle bus tour around the island to the lighthouse etc.
And to my horror, just whizzed past those shipwrecks! I managed to get a photo in a moving bus, as I had window seat.

When we were having fun with the Segways in the sand, where it was limited area we had to stay in... I almost felt like cheekily dashing off towards the ship wreck area, full throttle! 😈

But I didn’t, I was having so much fun showing off how I mastered the Segway in a short time, whilst others were trying to grasp it  😂

Here is the story of those ship wrecks

https://www.tangalooma.com/moreton-island/tangalooma-wrecks

and my photo I took with old wreck and ship in distance, both still gracing the seas in their own ways.

The Ozone Paddle Steamer Wreck.
Located on the west side of Port Phillip Bay and easily accessed by shore with a short swim.
The Ozone has more to offer underwater, than what is seen above. A sheltered wreck and the aquatic life around it is prolific and in good health.

Dived inside the big Lermontov in New Zealand

Jasin wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 11:48am:


Ditto.............

The S.S. Maheno
Pity it was used for bomb practice.

https://nomadsfraserisland.com/blog/fraser-island-s-maheno-shipwreck-interesting...

My pic, back in 2006.
I named this “Sea through shipwreck”

The entrance to Horseshoe Bay, Pt Elliot, SA, on a dangerous lee shore, is littered with wrecks. I have not heard of any search for the wrecks. Two attempts to build a breakwater to make the port were destroyed by the sea.

The first railway in SA was between Goolwa on the Murray River, near the mouth, and Horseshoe Bay. It was originally horsedrawn. Wool would be brought down the river, loaded onto the Goolwa wharf then onto the train and loaded into coastal ships to take to Pt Adelaide.

The coast there is shallow, as you can see in the picture of the people surfing. You see Horseshoe Bay, can just see the jetty on the lower right of the photo. Imagine steering a sailing ship, close to the shallow shore (with little islands and reefs of granite) through the narrow entrance, keeping in the narrow deep channel, then the wind changes! Help!

Pt Elliot still has some very attractive historical buildings, mostly on the sea side of the main road but not exclusively so. If Lols likes AND I can find the charger to my camera I can document some of that?

Surf:

With my then business partner I built two houses (timber frame) in the 1980s (sorry, both houses are still standing 

We also bought a 400sqm 1880 bluestone villa in Pt Elliot.

So I had an interest in those two ports (river port & sea port.)

The rail line is still there tho degraded and the “Cockleshell Train” takes kids from Goolwa to Victor Harbor.

Cool, there is a walk along the cliffs, made as a centennial celebration in the 1930s, my business partner spent time helping repair the path so I will include some of that.

Victor Harbor a few Km down the coast from Pt Elliot is so heavily built up there is absolutely no charm there anymore.

There used to be a shipwreck in Kwinana (south of Perth).

The SS Kwinana.

Not sure if it's still there.

http://museum.wa.gov.au/maritime-archaeology-db/wrecks

There's another underwater wreck on the eastern side of Fraser Island just off the beach at Orchid Beach.

The SS Marloo went aground in 27 Sept 1914 after being damaged further out on a shoal.

Went over there in 1986 with my 4mtr tinny & a couple of mates dived on it ...... not me though.

I stayed in the boat.

Some fecken big sharks around Waddy Point & Indian Head ... not far away.

You know it's a wonder the cancel culture crowd don't want that name changed now.

http://www.environment.gov.au/shipwreck/public/wreck/wreck.do?key=2832

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So I found the folder in storage of my earlier digi photos from 2006 (first Kodak 4 mp digi camera)

SS Maheno 2006 Fraser Island Qld
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Johnnie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 12:37am:


Gosh I see what you mean! I just had a look at pics and vids of it.
Bit of a precarious spot!

This link has photos and videos showing how a wave can get over that sandbank and could come hurtling towards where the wreck is!

https://www.google.com.au/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&sxsrf=ALeKk01_i...

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Trapped in a cave.... gosh you sound too adventurous! 😮
Haunted... wouldn’t be surprised, did you know there was another shipwreck near SS Ethel 17 years later? This same ship tried to rescue Ethel 17 years earlier. The SS Ferret.
The original name of Ethel was Carmelo. Is it a bad omen to change a ship’s name?




The Ethel, originally named Carmelo, was a three masted iron barque of 711 tons and built in Sunderland, England in 1876. The ship was driven ashore, with the loss of one life, after being caught in a violent storm off Yorke Peninsula in 1904 while on route to Port Adelaide from South Africa. The coastal steamer S.S.

Sophia wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2020 at 5:35pm:

It didn't break up in the 80's, Ethel is still there, it almost disappeared under the sand buildup for a while, that footage you put up was from about 10rys ago, it might have been the storm that exposed it again, i saw it with my own eyeballs only about 3yrs ago, i didn't go down onto the beach that day and never will, respect Ethel.

A good bit of history there.

SS Alkimos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Alkimos_(1943)

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Alkimos (suburb)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkimos,_Western_Australia

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All that is left of the wreck (above water) today is the engine which was located at the centre of the ship and a couple of other small pieces. Here's a couple of pictures I took in January last year when I was up there for lunch with some friends. You can see the engine to the right of centre in the first picture (the bow was facing towards the beach).





For comparison, here's a picture I took in December 1992 from Yanchep, further up the coast. Back in those days you could only access the beach where the Alkimos was wrecked with a 4WD. In this picture, the forward part of the wreck has collapsed into the ocean except for the tip of the bow which you can just make out to the left of the rest of the ship.



Here's an awesome video someone made of the wreck back in 2016:

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And this interesting little doco about that ship ...

At least shipwrecks don't happen very often these days, thank Christ for gps and the whiteman compass.

Sophia wrote on Jul 29^th, 2020 at 10:43pm:

It would have been seat in the pants sailing in them days.

Wow Carl, just that first link was exhausting reading!
It makes me think .... those 2 guys in that lookout nest...
One could have the binoculars or “glasses” as it was referred to..
and the other to use his naked eye. That combination would work.

But no, the binocular situation is not the undoing of the Titanic.

I wonder if all those port holes had not been opened, (by guests having a sticky beak wondering what was going on) water would not have filled the ship as quickly, maybe then giving time for more people to get on lifeboats, or for that other ship to get there in time to rescue many.

I was watching a video about all the families that perished or half were saved only.
To find out many bodies were not recovered, or many bodies of people not known who they are, so they were buried as unknowns. Except via the advent of DNA .... an unknown baby.... that finally got a name on its memorial.

I will look at those other links later 

Have you seen the incredible underwater filming of the sunken Titanic wreck?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 30^th, 2020 at 4:03am:


Hi, Jovial. The transatlantic speed record is one of those Titanic myths that has been around almost since the sinking.

The White Star Line's Olympic class liners - Olympic, Titanic and Britannic, were built mainly for luxury and not speed. They could probably have made a maximum speed of about 23 knots if they were really "pushing it".

In contrast, the Cunard Line's Lusitania and Mauretania (which had both been in service since 1907) were capable of speeds of up to 26 or 27 knots although they usually averaged about 24 knots.

The only "record" that they may have been thinking about breaking was possibly beating their sister ship Olympic's (which had been in service for nearly a year) best transatlantic crossing time. The Olympic and Titanic were incapable of beating the record times of the Lusitania and Mauretania.

Sophia wrote on Jul 30^th, 2020 at 3:07am:


Hi, Lols. Seen quite a few of those over the years but I haven't seen any yet from the most recent expedition to the wreck last year but apparently the wreck has deteriorated badly since the previous expedition in 2005.

Hey, guys, here's a couple of cool videos made by the Titanic: Honor and Glory team who are in the process of making a new video game featuring the most accurate recreation of the ship (inside and out) to date.

Titanic sinks in REAL TIME - 2 HOURS 40 MINUTES



That was made in 2016. Here's an updated version of the final 14 minutes of the sinking with extra details added (people, funnel guy wires, etc.)



I'll definitely be buying this game when it eventually gets released. 

Carl D wrote on Jul 30^th, 2020 at 10:13am:


And spare lockdown time is all I have now 
At least this will be interesting information to take my mind off things.
Thanks for this very profound info 👍

Beautiful portrayal of The Titanic.

Such a waste ... new ship and no expense spared fitted out luxuriously.

It reminded me of the ship we took my daughter on as her first cruise.
The Carnival Spirit in 2018.
Beautiful old age type dark wooden carved decor.
As soon as she stepped on board... it was “wow....wow” etc

I loved seeing her expression.

I noted in the video of the Titanic interior... showing bath rooms and then what seemed like a laundry.... just a big double laundry tub.

Hmmmm... hand washing only?

I had a look at what type of washing items were available in 1914 and mainly a lot of handling ... scrubber board, wringer, hot pot of water to stir with paddle.
I can’t see how they washed their attires on a luxury ship back then... must have had washer staff doing it.
But no dryers? Would’ve taken ages to dry?

Couple of items here about laundry on Titanic and presumably other ships of the time.

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/threads/laundry-on-the-titanic.4...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-class_facilities_of_the_RMS_Titanic#Faciliti...

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Looks like passengers needed to take as many changes of clothes as they needed for the transatlantic voyage which took almost a week in most cases.

Still on the subject of Titanic there is actually some doubt as to whether the clock was installed in the 'Honor And Glory Crowning Time' sculpture on the forward Grand Staircase.

This photograph is of Olympic's staircase, sculpture and clock but Titanic's was believed to be identical. No known photographs exist of Titanic's Grand Staircase.



Some people believe that the clock wasn't installed on Titanic prior to its ill fated maiden voyage and a small round mirror was temporarily fitted into the sculpture instead. No-one knows for sure but apparently there was a lot of unfinished work on Titanic when she sailed (cabin room heaters not working, etc.).

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/threads/the-grand-staircase-cloc...

(The 'Carl' in that discussion isn't me, by the way).

The clock on the aft grand staircase (between the 3rd and 4th funnels) was believed to have been installed prior to the maiden voyage but, again, no-one knows for certain but seeing as it was a 'simpler' feature than the sculpture on the forward staircase it is almost certain the clock was there.

Photograph of Olympic's aft staircase and clock which, again, was almost certainly identical to Titanic's.



The mysteries continue... even 108 years after Titanic sank.

Your astonished... I’m totally in awe!

So realistic... who are these great artistic talents?!

Loving and living it in the era of 1912

A bit of ragtime/blues piano sets the mood.

I will put these up on the smart TV to watch on YouTube, show hubby to see his reaction.
Am so in love with ships.
Been on 9 cruises... and a different ship each time to explore. We always try to get a group booking for the ship’s tour too.

You know Carl, once this corona virus and lockdown fiasco has eased, we will still book a cruise. Even just sailing around the Whitsundays. A most beautiful area. Part of Dorothy McKellars poem My Country is what the Great Barrier Reef reminds me  “....I love her Jewel sea....”

Sophia wrote on Aug 1^st, 2020 at 9:55pm:


Hey, Lols, did you see the notice at the top of the gangway in that Irish Eyes video? It says:

NOTICE
ANY WORKMAN LEAVING THE SHIP EXCEPT BY THE PROPER GANGWAY WILL BE INSTANTLY DISMISSED
WJ PIRRIE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pirrie,_1st_Viscount_Pirrie

Just imagine if workplaces tried doing something like that today. (I'm not sure but it may have had something to do with making sure workers weren't stealing things when they finished for the day).

The Titanic: Honor and Glory demo that I downloaded some time ago uses this same Belfast setting. You have 2 choices - start the demo inside Titanic at the top of the forward gangway shown in the attached screenshot and explore about 6% of the ship or you can start the demo riding in the train that stops some distance away from where Titanic is moored (which is also shown in the Irish Eyes video) and you work your way across to the ship (using your keyboard).

Its fun using the second option because you have to work your way through the 'maze' of railway wagons, 'ladders' (or A frames), boxes and barrels, etc. on the wharf until you reach the gangway. (Spoiler: when you step off the train you don't move towards Titanic, you go the opposite way towards the back of the train then go through a gap in the fence on the left and work your way to the ship from there... took me a while to figure that out.. lol..).

You must go up the forward gangway shown in my attached screenshot to board the ship. If you go up the aft one your way is blocked by signs, boxes and other construction equipment when you reach the top then you have to go back down and work your way across the wharf to the forward gangway.

Cool stuff. As I said, I can't wait to get my hands on the final game (or just a 'full' demo to explore the entire ship) when it is ready.

You’re a champ Carl 👍

I’m time travelling here!

Once my bewildered mentality after today’s Victorian results of fail... almost sunk like the Titanic while we all hold on from sinking further.
The rescue vessel is in here, you tube videos and friends.
I will be calmer tomorrow to watch it.... I’m just a bit fuming like a ships funnel at mo
I will mind travel better after a good sleep 
Tomorrow’s another day!👍

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 4^th, 2020 at 9:04am:

On my bucket list to go on S of T to see Tassy.

Sophia wrote on Aug 4^th, 2020 at 3:13pm:


Absolutely—Tamar Valley, the Tarquin, Salamanca Markets etc etc. Port Arthur—so much!

It is part of our history.

I visited the Dachau concentration camp site. Concrete posts, electrified barbed wire—stood there and “desolation” was the word that came to mind. The huts had all gone but the admin centre was there documenting what happened there: not gassing but experiments using prisoners as to how core body temperature dropped when dropped into a big tank of cold water. Plenty of photos.

I read that the US Air Force had removed the data to use it for themselves. At first I was outraged—how DARE they use these results obtained with force and cruelty? But then I realised the involuntary sacrifice could save lives and was reconciled to it.


This crap happened! We must not forget!

Diving into the entrance at night, of the Kiama Blow Hole - down to 10m at the start. Moving in with the rush of the swell, then holding on to a heavy rock or crevice in the walls, as the sea water withdrew back out. Eventually making it to the end, where a light from above where the sea water thumps out with  a spray of hissing sea.
There I heard and felt down the lateral line of my body, the sound of a young woman's ...thoughts. Go back. Danger. Leave. Both as a warning and a description of herself... her life. I went back a bit to change with my dive buddy for his turn at the head of the serpent.
Later up at the carpark, I asked by dive buddy if he heard any voices down there (as if people were above, as if jumped the fence to see what the light from our dive torches were about and taking?)? No he said without the thought that I might be schizoid playing across his mind. Good mate.
I later looked into the history of the Kiama Blowhole. There I learned there has been a number of deaths there. A young woman, a family of Afghans (11) who were washed into the water down by the entrance and more.
Don't forget dives like that.

(Briefly back on the subject of Titanic again).

Hey, Lols - thought you might find this interesting. An advertisement in a New York newspaper (might be the New York Times, not sure) that appeared in the paper prior to Titanic's ill fated maiden voyage.



If Titanic hadn't sunk on the night of April 14th - 15th 1912 it was due to leave New York and sail back to Southampton on April 20th (then May 11th, June 1st, June 22nd and July 13th).

Perhaps in some 'alternate reality' the ship missed its encounter with the iceberg and the sailings in the advertisement really happened... an interesting thought.

One 'alternate reality' where Titanic would have certainly survived would have been if she had started her maiden voyage on the original planned date - March 20th 1912. But, because of repairs that were needed to her sister ship Olympic after a couple of 'mishaps' and the repairs had to be done in Belfast, Titanic's maiden voyage was delayed by 3 weeks.

Besides the fact that Olympic and Titanic were both built there, the only dry dock large enough to take them (and the largest in the world at the time) was also there.

Olympic required 6 weeks of repairs after her collision with the Royal Navy cruiser HMS Hawke in September 1911 (the repairs to Olympic had to use some parts that were to be installed on Titanic, including Titanic's starboard propeller shaft) and there was also the repair time and workers needed when Olympic lost a propeller blade after she struck an uncharted submerged object in February 1912. As a result of all this, Titanic's completion was delayed and her maiden voyage was put back to April 10th.

This is Olympic and Titanic in Belfast, February 1912 when Olympic was back there to have her missing (broken off) propeller blade replaced.

https://i.imgur.com/1Hseqin.jpg

Olympic on the left, Titanic (still not complete) on the right. Titanic had just been moved out of the dry dock to allow Olympic to be put in there for repairs. This is the last known photograph of the two sister ships together.

Below is a painting by renowned Titanic (and other ships) artist Ken Marschall showing what might have been - Titanic arriving in New York which would probably have been Wednesday 17th April 1912.

Some people believe that they were going to attempt to make it into New York on the Tuesday night to beat their sister ship Olympic's transatlantic crossing best time, there was a 'full speed' trial with all boilers lit (they didn't have them all lit on the night of the sinking) scheduled for during the day on Monday 15th but the iceberg put an end to that plan, of course.

I've also seen stories that the ship had been sailing through iceberg infested waters for up to 2 hours before the fatal collision but none of these bergs were seen by the lookouts in the crows nest or the bridge officers. Some surviving passengers even said later that they were sure they saw bergs in the distance being passed by the ship well before the collision.

In one of the two inquiries into the sinking, 2nd officer Charles Lightoller who was the most senior surviving officer said that "everything was against us that night" (no moon, no waves to cause 'surf' at the base of bergs making them easier to spot at night, etc.). Walter Lord, in his book The Night Lives On, the sequel to his best selling A Night To Remember mentioned Lightoller's testimony and his comment was:

"It is almost unbelievable that they sailed through iceberg infested waters for maybe 2 hours without coming to grief sooner".

"Everything was against us? It was a wonder she (Titanic) lasted as long as she did".

And, if they had missed the iceberg they would most certainly have had to slow down or stop for the rest of the night of the 14th/15th because there was a huge icefield and more icebergs further on past where they struck the berg. They wouldn't have made it to New York before Wednesday at the earliest in that case.

(I enlarged the painting a bit which is why it isn't as sharp as I would have liked):

@ Carl RE: reply #66

Always in hindsight of course, if only, shoulda coulda oughta etc.

They say it takes at least a minimum of 2 things to coincide to make things go wrong.
But seems Titanic had many things going against it.
It’s eerie when you think about his this book was written 14 years prior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Futility

Sophia wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:


Yep, in other words "Make sure your little tugboat, etc. stays away from our propellers or bad things may happen". 

This is where one of the signs was fitted to Titanic, the other two were at the sides just out of view in this image (image courtesy of Titanic: Honor and Glory).



When Olympic arrived in New York on her maiden voyage in June 1911 one of the assisting tugboats got a bit too close to one of Olympic's wing propellers and was drawn into the side of the huge liner causing some damage to the tugboat - wasn't too serious and, fortunately, no-one was hurt.

Sophia wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:


Hmm, never thought about toilets on the Titanic before. Lots of info here:

https://www.ranker.com/list/titanic-hygiene/melissa-sartore

Another link from that one:

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=TIKYAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA201&dq=public+bathtubs+t...

By the looks of it, if I were aboard in those days I may have preferred to "hang on" until the ship reached port... doubt I'd be able to hold it for almost a week though.

Sophia wrote on Aug 7^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:


Here's an updated version that someone uploaded to YouTube that's a lot 'smoother' and might look better on a big TV.



It just shows the insides of the ship and its a lot longer than the original one I posted the other day.

I've read that Morgan Robertson book The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility a few years back and it is rather uncanny although I did read somewhere once that post Titanic editions were 'embellished' a little to make it sound more similar to what happened to Titanic.

The part of the book where Titan encounters the iceberg is even more frightening than what happened to Titanic - the Titan 'runs up' onto an underwater ledge of the iceberg, stops, and tips over onto its side and then slowly slides back and sinks into the ocean in a matter of minutes and everyone aboard is killed except for John Rowland and the young girl.

I wonder if any pets survived?



“First-class passengers aboard the Titanic could bring their dogs; there were roughly 12 canines accompanying their owners on the ship. The Titanic had a kennel on the F Deck where John Hutchinson and a group of stewards or bellboys cared for the animals. Smaller dogs may have spent their time in their owners' cabins instead.
The dogs on the Titanic were walked daily along the poop deck, presumably cleaned up after by their handlers.
There were also several roosters and hens aboard the Titanic, and the ship had a resident cat named Jenny. Jenny was said to have birthed a litter of kittens the week before the Titanic set sail. The roosters and hens were owned by passenger Ella Holmes White, who was importing them to the United States from France.”

Carl D wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 9:12am:


One would be excused for thinking the obvious 😊
Such play on words of co-incidence.

Here's a couple more I found of the SS Maheno

last one

Great pictures, Gnads.

Intriguing!
Such awe and mysteries of the deep blue....
Love your descriptions JaSin.

SS Norwich City

The Long Farewell of the Norwich City

https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/80_LongFarewell/...

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The Norwich City may also have a connection with Amelia Earhart and her 1937 disappearance. Many researchers believe she landed on the beach at Gardner Island (now called Nikumaroro Island) after she and her navigator, Fred Noonan, couldn't find Howland Island where they were supposed to land and she sent out distress calls for nearly a week afterwards.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/24/amelia-earhart-birthday-distress-...

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I'm not sure if the following was heard by the same Texas housewife or someone else but in one of the supposed messages from Amelia Earhart she apparently said something that sounded like New York City, its quite possible she was saying Norwich City (the wreck close to where she landed) but no-one figured it out at the time, unfortunately.

This is also quite fascinating, what's become known as the 'Bevington Object'.

https://tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/Archives/Research/Bulletins/82_BevingtonAnal...

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I've attached a picture from another website because the smaller one in the article doesn't show the object too clearly.

Robert Ballard, the man famous for finding the wreck of Titanic conducted a search a year ago but unfortunately couldn't find any trace of the plane.

https://www.livescience.com/robert-ballard-does-not-find-amelia-earhart-plane.ht...

Hi, Sophia (Lols).

Just to prove Xavier (JaSin.) isn't the only one who can resurrect old threads. 

Found these great animations of Titanic on YouTube.

This is a new one by Jared Owen Animations - What's inside the Titanic.



An animation of Titanic's 2 main reciprocating engines which drove the 'wing' propellers - the Parsons low pressure turbine (which used the 'leftover' steam from the 2 main engines before any remaining steam was returned to the condensers, converted back to water and used again in the boilers) and drove the centre propeller in front of the rudder isn't shown.



That one has no sound, by the way.

Might be better to watch them on YouTube because they won't show full screen here on the forum (well, I can't get them to show full screen in Firefox anyway).

Hey, Sophia.

I was just looking again at the Jared Owen animation and it shows just how long the propeller shafts really are.

The second animation (Double Vision) shows a 'shortened' version of the shafts because I assume the animator didn't want to waste screen 'real estate' just to show the entire shaft lengths.

On the wreck today you can see only see the 2 'wing' propellers half buried in the mud and that's only because the 2 outer shafts were bent up by about 20 degrees when the stern section of Titanic slammed into the ocean floor.

The centre propeller is deeply buried in the mud and can't be seen. In fact, there's been some controversy over the past 15 years as to whether the ship had a 3 or 4 bladed centre propeller after a long lost builders notebook was found.

The mystery of Titanic's central propeller

The Jared Owen animation shows a 4 bladed centre propeller.

I don't think the day will ever come when anyone can truthfully say they know everything about the Titanic.

Apparently I saw a shipwreck on the weekend ... had all these signs posted around the sight about how it was a protected area and to minimize your impact blah blah blah ,,,, and apart from a whole heap of sand, there was one piece if about 2 inches of rusty metal sticking out of the sand (calm down bobby). Nothing else there. I'm hoping that if I go back in a few months after a big storm some of the sand might have washed away.

Carl D wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 2:11pm:


Fascinating reading! Yes watching them scrambling feet before the doors closed freaked me out too!

But speaking of Titanic movies…. back in the 70s whilst I travelled an hour each way on trains to work… I would read a lot… and one memorable book was “Raise the Titanic” brilliantly written by suspense author Clive Cussler. From the first page it got me in… I could not put that book down… and then…. a movie was done based on that book!
This was all done ‘before’ the Titanic was found!
If you ever get a chance, view that movie “Raise the Titanic” ….

Sophia wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:34am:



I'd love to but there are to many dickheads on this forum.

Geez the amount of shipwrecks around Tasmania shoreline! 
Reason I looked up Tassy because of how rough Bass Strait is!

https://www.sail-world.com/-96949/

And…. Scroll down to 60 minutes about Australia’s largest mass murder cold case….

https://oztreasure.weebly.com/western-australian-shipwrecks.html

Sophia wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:22am:


Ah, yes... Raise The Titanic.

I have the movie on BluRay. 

I also saw the movie at the cinema here in Perth in 1981, I vividly remember going into the foyer of the cinema with 2 or 3 of my friends, handing our tickets to the lady and asking "Where do we sit?" and her reply was "Anywhere".

When we entered the cinema it was easy to see why - there were probably only about 20 people in there (including us). 

It was a real box office flop and it was worse for me because I had already read Clive Cussler's excellent book a year or two earlier. The changes made to the bow section of the 50 foot long model of the ship were particulary cringeworthy for anyone who has studied the Titanic in detail.  The addition of those 2 tall vents on each side of the forward mast was the worst change of the lot.

These changes were made to make the bow area of the model look like the old liner they used as a 'stand in' for the Titanic in the live action scenes on deck. Which greatly annoyed Titanic historian and artist Ken Marschall (he supervised the building of the model) because he wanted the model to be the most accurate Titanic model ever made up until then.

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/raise-the-titanic-and-its-5-million-replica-lin...

The liner used as a 'stand in' for the film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Santa_Rosa_(1932)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Santa_Rosa_(1932)#Raise_the_Titanic

If you look at the picture in the second link taken in 1986 (click on it twice to enlarge fully) you can still see the name Titanic on her bow. I've enlarged and circled it in the attached image.

The good news is the model (what was left of it) has been saved after it was left to deteriorate for decades.

Wow Carl… that all gave me goosebumps! I can’t recall where or when I watched the movie! Probably on TV. I enjoyed it and I didn’t realise it was a flop. I would watch it again … soon in fact!
That replica model getting saved is nice… “save the titanic” 
It’s hard to expect much from an any movie after reading the book first.
That music so reminds me of Star Wars music as it was all around the same time it all came about.
Aah memories of the mid to late 70’s.
I’m into Star Wars, Star Trek and soon will go to watch the new Avatar.
I went into the Reading cinema a few days ago to see which seating area I liked… the theatre was empty so they said it was okay for me to go in…Titan Luxe with reclining seats.
So I bum tested where I want to sit to pre order tickets for there

Jasin wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:20pm:


The cinema was amazing to see with all those threwn seats.
Not sure I’d be brave enough to go through a shipwreck or any tight spot but I’d be happy to float about the outside perimeters of a wreck.

Here you go, Sophia.

The best part of Raise The Titanic. It was so good they showed it twice, the second time was during the end credits (just the part after the ship reaches the surface). 



That 'groaning' sound during the close up of the bow after it breaks the surface still creeps me out after all these years. 

If you watch it from 4:40 onwards as the camera moves from the stern to the bow you can see a little guy who looks like he's operating a pump or something by winding a handle - it was a gag done by the special effects people to see if anyone would notice.

Funny thing is - I'm sure I saw another version of this where there were 2 little guys operating a pump or whatever which looked a bit like a see saw with one at each end in that same spot? Not too sure? Might have to get my BluRay out and see if it's different.

Also, there are large 'rings' attached to the deck spaced out along the length of the model on both sides, you can see one in the attached image which also shows the guy operating the pump or whatever. These 'rings' were not on the real Titanic, of course. They were put there so crane hooks could be attached to the model for lifting it and they didn't bother taking them off when the model was filmed (hardly anyone would probably notice them anyway).

Another oddity is the wreck been shown with the second funnel missing and the first one still intact. Survivors were pretty much unanimous in their testimony that the first funnel fell before any of the others. I guess the film makers decided it looked better with the second funnel missing and not the first otherwise it may have looked more like a 3 funneled liner?

Of course, we now know all 4 funnels came off long before the 2 broken sections of the Titanic hit the bottom but this film was made 6 or 7 years before the wreck was discovered which is also why the wreck in the movie is in one piece because no one knew with any certainty that the ship broke in two despite many survivors testifying at the hearings that they were sure it had.