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Fake Pandemic Numbers
Apr 30th, 2020 at 6:05pm
 
Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi, of Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, California, recently posted their video to YouTube but it was deleted - after 5 million views!

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Dr. Dan Erickson: There's a 0.03% chance of dying from covid-19 in the state of California. Does that necessitate shutting down medical systems? Does that necessitate people being out of work?  96% of people in California who get covid-19 recover with no significant continuing medical problems ... We're not wearing masks, why is that? Because we understand microbiology, we understand immunology, and we want strong immune systems ... We've both been in ER, through swine flu, through bird flu, did we shutdown for those? Were they less dangerous than covid? Is the flu less dangerous than covid? Let's look at the death rates. No, it's not. They're similar in prevalence and in death rate. When someone dies in this country now ... the first question is, did they die from covid? We've been to hundreds of autopsies ... covid is not the reason they died, it is one of many reasons; it's so simplistic to say that's a covid death. But ER doctors now say,  you know, when we're writing the death report, we're being pressured to add covid - why is that? Why are we being pressured to add covid, to maybe increase the numbers? I think so ... (my colleagues) say we are being pressured to add covid to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not covid.


Guest: Are you saying it's not necessary for healthy individuals to be quarantined?


Dr. Artin Massihi: Yes, if you're young and healthy why would you quarantine yourself? It doesn't make any sense. You quarantine the ill.


Dr. Dan Erickson: There are two ways to get rid of a virus: either it burns itself out or we develop herd immunity. For hundreds of years we relied on herd immunity. Viruses kill people, end of story. The flu kills people, covid kills people. But for the rest of us we develop herd immunity. We develop the ability to take this virus in and defeat it and for the vast majority, 95% of those around the globe, this is true. And when we look at people who have locked down and at people who haven't locked down, and we have massive data, it is not statistically significant whether you lock down or not. So why are we doing it? The data is showing it;s time to lift the lock down, So if we don't lift it, what is the reason? ... I can go into Costgo and shop with people, and there's probably a couple of hundred people, but I can't go into Cafe Rio. So big businesses are open, little businesses are not. There's no science behind that ... there are other factors in play which we don't have time to go into now, but it's not science. I want to make that clear.


Dr. Artin Massihi: One thing that's being televised is that we need to capture every single covid patient. No we don't .. It would be nice to capture every patient but is that realistic? Are we going to keep the economy shut down for two years and vaccinate everybody? That's an unrealistic expectation ... You're going to cause financial ruin, domestic violence, suicide ... We need to treat this like the flu and eventually this will mutate and become less and less virulent ... Going outside is healthy; why can't you go to the park and walk around but you can go to Home Depot and everybody's not wearing a mask? It doesn't make sense; the inconsistencies and incongruities make no sense, that's the bottom line ...  By wearing a mask and gloves friendly bacteria which protect you ... will end up going away and you're more likely to get opportunistic infections ... because you no longer have good bugs fighting for you.



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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 6:09pm
 
Washington Times: Coronavirus hype biggest political hoax in history

The new coronavirus is real.

The response to the coronavirus is hyped. And in time, this hype will be revealed as politically hoaxed.

In fact, COVID-19 will go down as one of the political world’s biggest, most shamefully overblown, overhyped, overly and irrationally inflated and outright deceptively flawed responses to a health matter in American history, one that was carried largely on the lips of medical professionals who have no business running a national economy or government.

The facts are this: COVID-19 is a real disease that sickens some, proves fatal to others, mostly the elderly — and does nothing to the vast majority.

That’s it.

That, in a nutshell, is it.

Or, in the words of Dan Erickson and Artin Massih, doctors and co-owners of Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, California: Let’s get the country reopened — and now.

“Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. … [T]he data is showing it’s time to lift,” Erickson said, in a recent interview.

He’s right. They’re right.

The data to keep America closed and Americans closed in simply doesn’t exist.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/28/coronavirus-hype-biggest-politi...
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008
 
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Reply #2 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 6:57pm
 
More mike more fake conspiracy theories.

Fact is that there are a lot more corona virus deaths than recorded, at least 30%.
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Reply #3 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:09pm
 

Quote:
..........  CLOSED CASES 1,236,501

Cases which had an outcome: 1,007,988 (82%)  Recovered / Discharged

228,513 (18%) Deaths
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Shows an 18% mortality rate
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Reply #4 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:15pm
 
exactly


In fact, COVID-19 will go down as one of the political world’s biggest, most shamefully overblown, overhyped, overly and irrationally inflated and outright deceptively flawed responses to a health matter in American history, one that was carried largely on the lips of medical professionals who have no business running a national economy or government.
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Reply #5 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:16pm
 
i'm surprised all the lefties arent still cowering under the table waiting for Y2K to pass   Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #6 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:17pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
More mike more fake conspiracy theories.

Fact is that there are a lot more corona virus deaths than recorded, at least 30%.



if the case fatality rate comes in at over 1 % i'm out of here  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 10:52pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:16pm:
i'm surprised all the lefties arent still cowering under the table waiting for Y2K to pass   Grin Grin Grin


Lefty Virus, innit.
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Reply #8 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 11:36pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 6:57pm:
More mike


I don't know what you mean.

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more fake conspiracy theories


So when Dr. Erickson says, '(my colleagues) say we are being pressured to add covid to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not covid', are you suggesting he's lying?

And please explain why people are being told to quarantine themselves at home when there is no science behind that. None at all. 

And, when there's a 0.03% chance of dying from covid-19 in the state of California, why does that necessitate shutting down medical systems or putting people out of work and ruining the economy?

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Fact is that there are a lot more corona virus deaths than recorded, at least 30%. 


Fact is Dr. Erickson and Dr. Massihi have studied the data of over 5000 people and extrapolated that to cover the entire population of California, and have come up with that 0.03% figure.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #9 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 11:41pm
 
Anyone who wants to watch the 51 min. presentation can download the original mp4 video here (right click, save as). But be warned, it's over 900mb.

Shame on youtube for removing it. That's proof what those doctors are saying is true, otherwise youtube would've left it up.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #10 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 11:57pm
 
Another fake covid death:

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Reply #11 - May 1st, 2020 at 1:57am
 
The doctor's bubble-wrap baby analogy is perfectly valid. Do you keep newborn babies in bubble-wrap until they reach adulthood? Of course not. You expose them to their surrounding environment. That's how they build immunity.

Indeed, the instinct of small children to put things in their mouth develops the immune system.
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We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

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Reply #12 - May 1st, 2020 at 6:38am
 
wombatwoody wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 1:57am:
The doctor's bubble-wrap baby analogy is perfectly valid. Do you keep newborn babies in bubble-wrap until they reach adulthood? Of course not. You expose them to their surrounding environment. That's how they build immunity.

Indeed, the instinct of small children to put things in their mouth develops the immune system.


Excellent wombat I shall start a new thread about this
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Reply #13 - May 1st, 2020 at 8:26am
 
There are many people trying to claim that people are dying "with" Covid-19 rather than because of it. There are also those saying that it kills mostly the old and the frail who were just about to die anyway.

An easy way to assess this is to look at a countries overall death rate from all causes (which stays pretty constant) and compare it to the number of deaths since the beginning of March when the Covid-19 pandemic started

Sweden has 18% more deaths than normal
UK has 33% more deaths than normal
Spain has 67% more deaths than normal
New York City has an extraordinary 309% more deaths than normal

Even more disturbingly the official Covid-19 death toll is less than the extra unaccounted for deaths
This is because the official toll only accounts for those who died with confirmed cases of Covid-19 in hospital
So there are actually thousands of people who have died in nursing homes and in the streets of Covid-19 who aren't included in the stats.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths....

46,000 Missing Deaths:
Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Outbreak



At least 40,000 more people have died during the coronavirus pandemic over the last month than the official Covid-19 death counts report, a review of mortality data in 12 countries shows — providing a clearer, if still incomplete, picture of the toll of the crisis.

In the last month, far more people died in these countries than in previous years, The New York Times found. The totals include deaths from Covid-19 as well as those from other causes, likely including people who could not be treated as hospitals became overwhelmed.
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Reply #14 - May 1st, 2020 at 10:00am
 
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dr.+Dan+Erickson+and+Dr.+Artin+Mass...


From being censored, these guys seem to have turned into media whores.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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