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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41068 Gender:	Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers Reply #30 - May 1^st, 2020 at 7:19pm UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:19pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:30pm: The world has eradicated leprosy, we can do the same with this. Leprosy has not been eradicated. Try India for examples of where that virus still exists. Sorry, I was unaware of that
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Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers
Reply #31 - May 1^st, 2020 at 7:25pm

aquascoot wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 6:56pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:27pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 12:43pm:

The death rate from coronavirus would not be anywhere near 18%. Even 1.8% would be a high figure. But, France having an ageing population is probably correct. Everywhere else would be closer to 0.1%.

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...... CLOSED CASES 1,277,126

Cases which had an outcome:

1,042,993 (82%) Recovered / Discharged

234,133 (18%) Deaths
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

18% death rate!

Why are people trying to downplay such a serious virus?

how much you want to bet me.
i'll take any bet that it comes in at under 1 %

It depends on what group you look at.

In nursing homes it appears to be higher than a 50% death rate.

I suppose for kids it would be only 0.1 % ?

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Reply #32 - May 1^st, 2020 at 7:27pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:27pm:

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...... CLOSED CASES 1,277,126

Cases which had an outcome:

1,042,993 (82%) Recovered / Discharged

234,133 (18%) Deaths
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Your maths is off. There are 3,308,901 cases of coronavirus, as of this writing. 234,139 people have died so far. That is roughly 7% of people who have had the virus have died. 1,042,995 people have recovered. 1,277,134 people have either recovered or died from the virus. That is 38.6% of people who have had one conclusive stage of the virus or the other. 61% of people who have had the virus are still infected.

Those were not my calculations, but I agree with them.
To round the figures off, there are 3 million cases of this virus.
1 million have been resolved, one way or another.
2 million people still have an active case of it.

I do not know what will happen to the 2 million active cases.

Of the 1 million resolved cases, 200K have died.
About 20%.

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Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers
Reply #33 - May 1^st, 2020 at 10:09pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:19pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:30pm:

The world has eradicated leprosy, we can do the same with this.

Leprosy has not been eradicated. Try India for examples of where that virus still exists.

Sorry, I was unaware of that

I might have been distracted when I wrote this. But, I should say that I know that the virus was still apparent in India in the late 1990s.

Chances are, the virus could have been eradicated since then.

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Reply #34 - May 1^st, 2020 at 10:21pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:27pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:27pm:

Quote:

...... CLOSED CASES 1,277,126

Cases which had an outcome:

1,042,993 (82%) Recovered / Discharged

234,133 (18%) Deaths
.....

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Your maths is off. There are 3,308,901 cases of coronavirus, as of this writing. 234,139 people have died so far. That is roughly 7% of people who have had the virus have died. 1,042,995 people have recovered. 1,277,134 people have either recovered or died from the virus. That is 38.6% of people who have had one conclusive stage of the virus or the other. 61% of people who have had the virus are still infected.

Those were not my calculations, but I agree with them.
To round the figures off, there are 3 million cases of this virus.
1 million have been resolved, one way or another.
2 million people still have an active case of it.

I do not know what will happen to the 2 million active cases.

Of the 1 million resolved cases, 200K have died.
About 20%.

You don't do percentages based on a percentage of a percentage. You do a total count. And then you do a percentage of recovered and/or deceased numbers compared to a total. What if all of those still infected make a recovery? Would that bump those percentage dead down to 5%?

I bet many of those that died come from countries where the health care system is busted, or for those that can afford it.

Australia has had 93 dead out of 6,767 cases. 1.3% death rate. That is, if you assume that there are only 6,767 cases of coronavirus in this country.

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Reply #35 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 6:09am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 10:21pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:27pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:27pm:

Quote:

...... CLOSED CASES 1,277,126

Cases which had an outcome:

1,042,993 (82%) Recovered / Discharged

234,133 (18%) Deaths
.....

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Your maths is off. There are 3,308,901 cases of coronavirus, as of this writing. 234,139 people have died so far. That is roughly 7% of people who have had the virus have died. 1,042,995 people have recovered. 1,277,134 people have either recovered or died from the virus. That is 38.6% of people who have had one conclusive stage of the virus or the other. 61% of people who have had the virus are still infected.

Those were not my calculations, but I agree with them.
To round the figures off, there are 3 million cases of this virus.
1 million have been resolved, one way or another.
2 million people still have an active case of it.

I do not know what will happen to the 2 million active cases.

Of the 1 million resolved cases, 200K have died.
About 20%.

You don't do percentages based on a percentage of a percentage. You do a total count. And then you do a percentage of recovered and/or deceased numbers compared to a total. What if all of those still infected make a recovery? Would that bump those percentage dead down to 5%?

I bet many of those that died come from countries where the health care system is busted, or for those that can afford it.

Australia has had 93 dead out of 6,767 cases. 1.3% death rate. That is, if you assume that there are only 6,767 cases of coronavirus in this country.

thats a truly terrible number.

we have been so scared that we have only had that many infections amd so we have about 26 , 993,000 cases to go (assuming we have a pop of 27 million).

if we dont get a vaccine and we dont get treatment (which we may well not get) then at this rate we have 1000's of years to go .

rediculous.

the idea was to flatten the curve.

sweden has NOT been overwhelemed and has a steady flow of patients which it can cope with and a much better economy.

we are back to the start.
when we ease WHICH WE MUST, we have made zero progress and all the pain is still in front of us.

talk about dumb .

unless you think its gone forever, never to return Roll Eyes

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25095 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers Reply #36 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 6:41am All I know is that my Central Queensland region is now coronavirus free. We are looking to opening up the region for work and leisure very soon. Only 8 cases of coronavirus since this all started.
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Reply #37 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 6:43am

aquascoot wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 6:09am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 10:21pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:27pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:18pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 4:27pm:

Quote:

...... CLOSED CASES 1,277,126

Cases which had an outcome:

1,042,993 (82%) Recovered / Discharged

234,133 (18%) Deaths
.....

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Your maths is off. There are 3,308,901 cases of coronavirus, as of this writing. 234,139 people have died so far. That is roughly 7% of people who have had the virus have died. 1,042,995 people have recovered. 1,277,134 people have either recovered or died from the virus. That is 38.6% of people who have had one conclusive stage of the virus or the other. 61% of people who have had the virus are still infected.

Those were not my calculations, but I agree with them.
To round the figures off, there are 3 million cases of this virus.
1 million have been resolved, one way or another.
2 million people still have an active case of it.

I do not know what will happen to the 2 million active cases.

Of the 1 million resolved cases, 200K have died.
About 20%.

You don't do percentages based on a percentage of a percentage. You do a total count. And then you do a percentage of recovered and/or deceased numbers compared to a total. What if all of those still infected make a recovery? Would that bump those percentage dead down to 5%?

I bet many of those that died come from countries where the health care system is busted, or for those that can afford it.

Australia has had 93 dead out of 6,767 cases. 1.3% death rate. That is, if you assume that there are only 6,767 cases of coronavirus in this country.

thats a truly terrible number.

we have been so scared that we have only had that many infections amd so we have about 26 , 993,000 cases to go (assuming we have a pop of 27 million).

if we dont get a vaccine and we dont get treatment (which we may well not get) then at this rate we have 1000's of years to go .

rediculous.

the idea was to flatten the curve.

sweden has NOT been overwhelemed and has a steady flow of patients which it can cope with and a much better economy.

we are back to the start.
when we ease WHICH WE MUST, we have made zero progress and all the pain is still in front of us.

talk about dumb .

unless you think its gone forever, never to return Roll Eyes

.

the only way it could be gone not to return is not to allow travel ever again

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36757 Gender:	Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers Reply #38 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 11:04am Spot you have hit the nail on the head At the rate of Australians currently being exposed We will all have been exposed and can relax in approximately 800 years That's a a long time to go before we can travel
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41068 Gender:	Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers Reply #39 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 11:35am UnSubRocky wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 6:41am: All I know is that my Central Queensland region is now coronavirus free. We are looking to opening up the region for work and leisure very soon. Only 8 cases of coronavirus since this all started. Good news
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Reply #40 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 11:41am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 10:21pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 7:27pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 5:18pm:

Your maths is off. There are 3,308,901 cases of coronavirus, as of this writing. 234,139 people have died so far. That is roughly 7% of people who have had the virus have died. 1,042,995 people have recovered. 1,277,134 people have either recovered or died from the virus. That is 38.6% of people who have had one conclusive stage of the virus or the other. 61% of people who have had the virus are still infected.

Those were not my calculations, but I agree with them.
To round the figures off, there are 3 million cases of this virus.
1 million have been resolved, one way or another.
2 million people still have an active case of it.

I do not know what will happen to the 2 million active cases.

Of the 1 million resolved cases, 200K have died.
About 20%.

You don't do percentages based on a percentage of a percentage. You do a total count. And then you do a percentage of recovered and/or deceased numbers compared to a total. What if all of those still infected make a recovery? Would that bump those percentage dead down to 5%?

I bet many of those that died come from countries where the health care system is busted, or for those that can afford it.

Australia has had 93 dead out of 6,767 cases. 1.3% death rate. That is, if you assume that there are only 6,767 cases of coronavirus in this country.

I do see your point of view.
Yes, if there are no more deaths the mortality rate will drop.

Of the 2 million active cases of covid worldwide I expect there will be some deaths.
From the 1 million resolved cases there were 200,000 deaths.
I extrapolate this and see 400,000 more deaths from the 2 million active cases.
Maintaining the mortality rate at 20%

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Reply #41 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 12:05pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 11:35am:

Deaths in USA 63,856.
Deaths in the world 234,042.

Total number of confirmed cases
3,269,800.

Death rate in France = 18.8%
Death rate of Spanish flu was 1%.
This virus is catastrophic.

https://coronaboard.com/

UnSubRocky wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 12:43pm:

The death rate from coronavirus would not be anywhere near 18%. Even 1.8% would be a high figure. But, France having an ageing population is probably correct. Everywhere else would be closer to 0.1%.

Bobby is just being hysterical. He continues to post it even though it has been pointed out numerous times why he is wrong. He is just after attention.

The "stats" we see should be treated with caution.
The confirmed cases are only those that have tested positive. This figure will be much lower than the reality, especially in countries that don't do much testing.
The deaths figure is only those who have tested positive and died in a hospital. This figure is also much lower than the reality as many people die outside of hospitals, especially those with over run hospital systems

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers Reply #42 - May 2^nd, 2020 at 5:20pm Just a reminder leprosy is not caused by a virus
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Reply #43 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:34am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 10:00am:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dr.+Dan+Erickson+and+Dr.+Artin+Mass...

From being censored, these guys seem to have turned into media whores.

https://i1.wp.com/aim4truth.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/removed-video.jpg?w=8...

There's another version on youtube with over 300K views but the original was pulled because 5 million was just too much for them to bear it seems. Like the old adage, You can have freedom of speech as long as not many are listening.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41068 Gender:	Re: Fake Pandemic Numbers Reply #44 - May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:37am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 5:20pm: Just a reminder leprosy is not caused by a virus Ah, yes, true. So entirely different beast
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