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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #30 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:02pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:34pm:

Can you translate please Gandalf?

Gladly. As Pecca himself has explained, his position is default and correct until proven otherwise. Its a bit like how our legal system works with the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty', which is also in line with our broader culture you might loosely term as "giving a fair go".

See its actually quite easy to understand if you are not ignoring the forest for the trees and engaging in mindless, petty semantic nitpicks. I must say too that translating Pecca is a damned site easier than trying to understand your translation of your own claims - like for example your contortions that "all muslims support genocide" reallly means "maybe they don't", while simultaneously insisting it remains a true and correct statement.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #31 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm

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Gladly. As Pecca himself has explained, his position is default and correct until proven otherwise. Its a bit like how our legal system works with the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty', which is also in line with our broader culture you might loosely term as "giving a fair go".

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Only critics of Islam are expected to be able to back up what they say. So people like Pecca can sprout whatever BS they like, and you will be a good Muslim and leap to their defence.

And these are the same Muslims that the more optimistic among us expect to root out the bad apples from within. Is this why you insist we should not try to track down what the FOIC did with all that money they stole from their own children Gandalf?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146610 Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #32 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm FD: what percentage of Liberal Party membership fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism? I'm curious.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #33 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm The essence of FD logic surrounding making claims about muslims: - baselessly claim that muslims are guilty of something - perfectly ok - baselessly claim that muslims are innocent of something - outrageous and stupid.
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Reply #35 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:10pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

FD: what percentage of Liberal Party membership fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

I'm curious.

Answer: a lot less than Halal fees.

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

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Reply #36 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm:

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise.

No no FD, in the interests of FD-correctness, people who attack muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Otherwise, why is the statement "all muslims support genocide" true and correct without having a clue as to what all muslims actually think? Why did you think it was a-ok to state with not a shred of evidence that siphoned school funding went to terrorists and think it was legitimate to use the defence "check the receipts"?

Tell me, did you pause for even a micro-second when you chose to trip up greg about making unsubstantiated claims about muslims? I'd be fascinated to know if there was even a hint of cognitive dissonance in your head at that time.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #37 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:15pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

FD: what percentage of Liberal Party membership fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

I'm curious.

Answer: a lot less than Halal fees.

Don't worry FD, no one will ask you to back that claim up, or suggest that it was a stupid thing to say because there is no shred of evidence for it. I'm sure it was just one of those claims of fact that you expect everyone to understand wasn't really a claim of fact.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #38 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:07pm:

FD: what percentage of Liberal Party membership fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

I'm curious.

Answer: a lot less than Halal fees.

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

Was the question too hard?

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Reply #39 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:18pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm:

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise.

No no FD, in the interests of FD-correctness, people who attack muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Otherwise, why is the statement "all muslims support genocide" true and correct without having a clue as to what all muslims actually think? Why did you think it was a-ok to state with not a shred of evidence that siphoned school funding went to terrorists and think it was legitimate to use the defence "check the receipts"?

Tell me, did you pause for even a micro-second when you chose to trip up greg about making unsubstantiated claims about muslims? I'd be fascinated to know if there was even a hint of cognitive dissonance in your head at that time.

I backed that up. All you provided when you leaped to defend Greg's idiocy is excuses.

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Reply #40 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:20pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm:

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise.

No no FD, in the interests of FD-correctness, people who attack muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Otherwise, why is the statement "all muslims support genocide" true and correct without having a clue as to what all muslims actually think? Why did you think it was a-ok to state with not a shred of evidence that siphoned school funding went to terrorists and think it was legitimate to use the defence "check the receipts"?

Tell me, did you pause for even a micro-second when you chose to trip up greg about making unsubstantiated claims about muslims? I'd be fascinated to know if there was even a hint of cognitive dissonance in your head at that time.

I backed that up. All you provided when you leaped to defend Greg's idiocy is excuses.

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

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Reply #41 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:28pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm:

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise.

No no FD, in the interests of FD-correctness, people who attack muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Otherwise, why is the statement "all muslims support genocide" true and correct without having a clue as to what all muslims actually think? Why did you think it was a-ok to state with not a shred of evidence that siphoned school funding went to terrorists and think it was legitimate to use the defence "check the receipts"?

Tell me, did you pause for even a micro-second when you chose to trip up greg about making unsubstantiated claims about muslims? I'd be fascinated to know if there was even a hint of cognitive dissonance in your head at that time.

I backed that up. All you provided when you leaped to defend Greg's idiocy is excuses.

You backed up the claim that siphoned school funding went to terrorists? Funny, the police must have missed that. I don't recall any charges being laid, nor for that matter any related terror investigation. If all else fails, FD resorts to blatant lies.

Also, traditionally you're not obliged to back up a claim that someone is innocent of something - when the evidence of their guilt is non-existent.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding
Reply #42 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm:

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise.

No no FD, in the interests of FD-correctness, people who attack muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Otherwise, why is the statement "all muslims support genocide" true and correct without having a clue as to what all muslims actually think? Why did you think it was a-ok to state with not a shred of evidence that siphoned school funding went to terrorists and think it was legitimate to use the defence "check the receipts"?

Tell me, did you pause for even a micro-second when you chose to trip up greg about making unsubstantiated claims about muslims? I'd be fascinated to know if there was even a hint of cognitive dissonance in your head at that time.

I backed that up. All you provided when you leaped to defend Greg's idiocy is excuses.

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding anti-Islam activism? I dare you to say 'zero'

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #43 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 8:05pm:

So in the interests of political correctness, people who defend Muslims are correct until proven otherwise.

No no FD, in the interests of FD-correctness, people who attack muslims are correct until proven otherwise. Otherwise, why is the statement "all muslims support genocide" true and correct without having a clue as to what all muslims actually think? Why did you think it was a-ok to state with not a shred of evidence that siphoned school funding went to terrorists and think it was legitimate to use the defence "check the receipts"?

Tell me, did you pause for even a micro-second when you chose to trip up greg about making unsubstantiated claims about muslims? I'd be fascinated to know if there was even a hint of cognitive dissonance in your head at that time.

I backed that up. All you provided when you leaped to defend Greg's idiocy is excuses.

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?

FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding anti-Islam activism? I dare you to say 'zero'

It depends on how you define anti Islam. As you so often lament, most terrorist attacks are targeted at fellow Muslims rather than the kafir.

And before you ask, I don't have the stats. I doubt terrorists give receipts.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146610 Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #44 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 9:01pm FD: what percentage of halal fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?
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