Australian Politics Forum - Halal fees and terrorism funding

John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #15 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:31pm freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 4:54pm: Perhaps they should check all the receipts in case any of them say "donations to a terrorist cause". Alternatively, people should stop making claims about things they know nothing about without any evidence to support those claims..
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #16 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:37pm Do you think Pecca knows a lot about the percentage of Halal fees going towards terrorism?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #17 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:40pm freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:37pm: Do you think Pecca knows a lot about the percentage of Halal fees going towards terrorism? I don't think Greg has seen any evidence of it. You on the other hand I am sure know even less than him. You're the one making claims you can't support.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #18 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:45pm freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 4:54pm: Perhaps they should check all the receipts in case any of them say "donations to a terrorist cause". Apparently FD thinks this is actually making a point.
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Reply #19 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:10pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:37pm:

Do you think Pecca knows a lot about the percentage of Halal fees going towards terrorism?

I don't think Greg has seen any evidence of it.

You on the other hand I am sure know even less than him. You're the one making claims you can't support.

So what do you make of Pecca telling everyone what percentage of halal fees go to terrorism?

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Reply #20 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:24pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:37pm:

Do you think Pecca knows a lot about the percentage of Halal fees going towards terrorism?

I don't think Greg has seen any evidence of it.

You on the other hand I am sure know even less than him. You're the one making claims you can't support.

So what do you make of Pecca telling everyone what percentage of halal fees go to terrorism?

The correct answer is that unless evidence comes to light indicating otherwise, the default position is that there is no reason to say any halal money goes to terrorists.

We know Pecca meant this given that the first thing he said after was that the burden of proof is on anyone who insists it does go to terrorists. Yes, it was technically wrong of him to state as fact that zero percentage goes to terrorists, but really it is not that far off the truth. It is a silly semantic point that you have gleefully grabbed and are now milking it for all its worth. Still, you might have a better leg to stand on if not for the fact that it was you who started it all when you stated as fact that the illegally siphoned money from Islamic schools went to terrorists - based on nothing whatsoever.

Also, the completely wrong retort to that is to say something idiotic like "check the receipts, I'm sure they are in order [hahaha I'm so funny]".

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Reply #21 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:28pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 6:37pm:

Do you think Pecca knows a lot about the percentage of Halal fees going towards terrorism?

I don't think Greg has seen any evidence of it.

You on the other hand I am sure know even less than him. You're the one making claims you can't support.

So what do you make of Pecca telling everyone what percentage of halal fees go to terrorism?

I'm 100% correct.

Unless you have something that proves me wrong.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #22 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:28pm Wow. Gandalf is re-interpreting Pecca for us.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #23 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:29pm Oops, now Pecca is speaking for himself. Who is right about what Pecca really meant?
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Reply #24 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:31pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

Oops, now Pecca is speaking for himself. Who is right about what Pecca really meant?

The percentage of things in the bottom of your garden that are invisible pink unicorns is zero.

The percentage of halal fees that go to terrorism is zero.

Can you prove me wrong on either point?

I'm curious.

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Reply #25 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:33pm

So many Moslem run business have been busted not just funding terrorists via default connections down the line, but also exploiting the Australian Welfare system as a majority compared to other groups.
Even a Kebab shop was ripping off the young female employees (gotta train them to beg to their 'masters') that were also non-moslem. Gotta teach the Aussie girls their place.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #26 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:34pm Can you translate please Gandalf? You did such a good job job turning Muhammad's rape and pillage into liberation, maybe you can rescue some sense from linking Islamic terrorism to pink unicorns.
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Reply #27 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:34pm

Jasin wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:33pm:

So many Moslem run business have been busted not just funding terrorists via default connections down the line, but also exploiting the Australian Welfare system as a majority compared to other groups.
Even a Kebab shop was ripping off the young female employees (gotta train them to beg to their 'masters') that were also non-moslem. Gotta teach the Aussie girls their place.

You forgot to provide the Facebook link Grin

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Reply #28 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:51pm

freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:29pm:

Oops, now Pecca is speaking for himself. Who is right about what Pecca really meant?

key words "Unless you have something that proves me wrong."

That is perfectly in line with my interpretation that his point is only a slight (if crude) variation of innocent until proven guilty, or the burden of proof is on those who claim it does go to terrorists.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131492 Gender:	Re: Halal fees and terrorism funding Reply #29 - Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:55pm freediver wrote on Apr 20^th, 2020 at 7:29pm: Oops, now Pecca is speaking for himself. Who is right about what Pecca really meant? What percentage of Liberal Party membership fees are used for funding right-wing terrorism?
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