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Re: Pell walks
Reply #510 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:11am

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:09am:

the WHO is a WORLDWIDE ORGANISATION funded mainly by the west....... the help prevent the spread of deadly diseases.... that have the ability to cripple the worlds HEALTH WEALTH AND EVERY DAY LIFE...

No they don't.

I urge you to read this:

https://www.who.int/about/what-we-do

no I have done reading their own propaganda,, you suck it up sunshine...

a lot of people are complaining about the WHO and the way this has been handled ....a lot of poeple with louder voices than me....

Jesus, is that possible? Shocked

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Reply #511 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:59am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:09am:

the WHO is a WORLDWIDE ORGANISATION funded mainly by the west....... the help prevent the spread of deadly diseases.... that have the ability to cripple the worlds HEALTH WEALTH AND EVERY DAY LIFE...

No they don't.

I urge you to read this:

https://www.who.int/about/what-we-do

no I have done reading their own propaganda,, you suck it up sunshine...

a lot of people are complaining about the WHO and the way this has been handled ....a lot of poeple with louder voices than me....

Jesus, is that possible? Shocked

YES

Useless bunch of twits, the horse bolts and that black dude just stands around trying to tell everyone what a wonderful job they do.

I don't want anymore of my tax dollars going towards his luxurious lifestyle.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #512 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:09am:

the WHO is a WORLDWIDE ORGANISATION funded mainly by the west....... the help prevent the spread of deadly diseases.... that have the ability to cripple the worlds HEALTH WEALTH AND EVERY DAY LIFE...

No they don't.

I urge you to read this:

https://www.who.int/about/what-we-do

no I have done reading their own propaganda,, you suck it up sunshine...

a lot of people are complaining about the WHO and the way this has been handled ....a lot of poeple with louder voices than me....

Jesus, is that possible? Shocked

maybe if you got your head out from up your backside gweg you would see whats going on in the world around you....and not in that little box you have confined yourself in.. you know the one thats surrounded by all things......trump..

you kind of lose perspective....pull your head out like most people and look around and stop reading only about the one thing...... Embarrassed

just a thought pet....this way you are sounding more like js every day.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Pell walks Reply #513 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am: by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ... Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.
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Re: Pell walks
Reply #514 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:06pm

Johnnie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:09am:

the WHO is a WORLDWIDE ORGANISATION funded mainly by the west....... the help prevent the spread of deadly diseases.... that have the ability to cripple the worlds HEALTH WEALTH AND EVERY DAY LIFE...

No they don't.

I urge you to read this:

https://www.who.int/about/what-we-do

no I have done reading their own propaganda,, you suck it up sunshine...

a lot of people are complaining about the WHO and the way this has been handled ....a lot of poeple with louder voices than me....

Jesus, is that possible? Shocked

YES

Useless bunch of twits, the horse bolts and that black dude just stands around trying to tell everyone what a wonderful job they do.

I don't want anymore of my tax dollars going towards his luxurious lifestyle.

Where do you get your tax dollars from?

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #515 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:06pm:

Johnnie wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 10:08am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 9:09am:

the WHO is a WORLDWIDE ORGANISATION funded mainly by the west....... the help prevent the spread of deadly diseases.... that have the ability to cripple the worlds HEALTH WEALTH AND EVERY DAY LIFE...

No they don't.

I urge you to read this:

https://www.who.int/about/what-we-do

no I have done reading their own propaganda,, you suck it up sunshine...

a lot of people are complaining about the WHO and the way this has been handled ....a lot of poeple with louder voices than me....

Jesus, is that possible? Shocked

YES

Useless bunch of twits, the horse bolts and that black dude just stands around trying to tell everyone what a wonderful job they do.

I don't want anymore of my tax dollars going towards his luxurious lifestyle.

Where do you get your tax dollars from?

That doesn't make sense.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #516 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:55pm

Johnnie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 16^th, 2020 at 6:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:10am:

Conviction quashed. Acquitted.

Yes. Good decision.

A "conviction quashed" or "acquittal" on appeal - is by no means a ruling of INNOCENT

It is a finding of guilt not proven "beyond reasonable doubt"

If Pell were found to be innocent "beyond reasonable doubt" - the prime prosecution witness would be now facing charges of perjury

Conviction quashed means he is not guilty according to law.

Not at ALL
Pell was found guilty. by a jury of his peers
He had his first appeal rejected
His conviction was quashed by the High Court on a legal technicality of "guilt not proven beyond reasonable doubt"

At no point in the High Court's statement of findings will you find the words "innocent" or "not guilty"

Let's remember, the High Court is not a panel of infallible "gods"
It was them that confirmed Lindy Chamberlain guilty of murder on her final appeal

Years later she was pardoned - on the finding of that chewed and torn matinee jacket - at the base of Uluruii

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #517 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:09pm

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am:

by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ...

Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.

I dont know I do not recall the royal.....what I do know is RISDALE got 29 years... and if pell confessed he knew about his activities.....he could still be charged with aiding and abetting... there is no time limit on Royal Comm findings they do swear an oath....... so why hasnt he been charged by the police???????

thats all I am asking..

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #518 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:17pm

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am:

by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ...

Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.

I dont know I do not recall the royal.....what I do know is RISDALE got 29 years... and if pell confessed he knew about his activities.....he could still be charged with aiding and abetting... there is no time limit on Royal Comm findings they do swear an oath....... so why hasnt he been charged by the police???????

thats all I am asking..

I do recall, Pell supported Risdale, not the victims. In this context the question of whether Pell got charged or not is irrelevant, he is still a reprehensible human being who deserves to hang. We know Pell supported the pedophiles, its on record and he does not deny it, so why are you going all out to support him? What is in your mind to argue for and offer support to this disgusting human being?

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #519 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:34pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 1:55pm:

Johnnie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 16^th, 2020 at 6:43pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 10:10am:

Conviction quashed. Acquitted.

Yes. Good decision.

A "conviction quashed" or "acquittal" on appeal - is by no means a ruling of INNOCENT

It is a finding of guilt not proven "beyond reasonable doubt"

If Pell were found to be innocent "beyond reasonable doubt" - the prime prosecution witness would be now facing charges of perjury

Conviction quashed means he is not guilty according to law.

Not at ALL
Pell was found guilty. by a jury of his peers
He had his first appeal rejected
His conviction was quashed by the High Court on a legal technicality of "guilt not proven beyond reasonable doubt"

At no point in the High Court's statement of findings will you find the words "innocent" or "not guilty"

Let's remember, the High Court is not a panel of infallible "gods"
It was them that confirmed Lindy Chamberlain guilty of murder on her final appeal

Years later she was pardoned - on the finding of that chewed and torn matinee jacket - at the base of Uluruii

i

This is that merry go round thing again, there is only guilty or not guilty, there are no halfway in-betweens.

Its been 4yrs since the RC, if the cops had anything on Pell they would have nabbed him as soon as he walked from Alkatraz.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #520 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:11pm

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am:

by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ...

Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.

I dont know I do not recall the royal.....what I do know is RISDALE got 29 years... and if pell confessed he knew about his activities.....he could still be charged with aiding and abetting... there is no time limit on Royal Comm findings they do swear an oath....... so why hasnt he been charged by the police???????

that's all I am asking..

Perhaps

St. Mick

is a big donor to - and supporter of - the

LIBNAT PARTY

?

This more than explains the obscenely disproportionate "bags of silver" thrown at the elite Catholic School's investment funds

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Reply #522 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 5:51pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am:

by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ...

Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.

I dont know I do not recall the royal.....what I do know is RISDALE got 29 years... and if pell confessed he knew about his activities.....he could still be charged with aiding and abetting... there is no time limit on Royal Comm findings they do swear an oath....... so why hasnt he been charged by the police???????

that's all I am asking..

Perhaps

St. Mick

is a big donor to - and supporter of - the

LIBNAT PARTY

?

This more than explains the obscenely disproportionate "bags of silver" thrown at the elite Catholic School's investment funds

total rubbish and you know it........we are talking about MELB dont forget....or should I say VIC...

have you forgotten the ALDI bags so soon... Grin

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Reply #523 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:36pm

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:17pm:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am:

by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ...

Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.

I dont know I do not recall the royal.....what I do know is RISDALE got 29 years... and if pell confessed he knew about his activities.....he could still be charged with aiding and abetting... there is no time limit on Royal Comm findings they do swear an oath....... so why hasnt he been charged by the police???????

thats all I am asking..

I do recall, Pell supported Risdale, not the victims. In this context the question of whether Pell got charged or not is irrelevant, he is still a reprehensible human being who deserves to hang. We know Pell supported the pedophiles, its on record and he does not deny it, so why are you going all out to support him? What is in your mind to argue for and offer support to this disgusting human being?

Well - what did he DO or SAY to support Risdale? Did he actively support his activities or did he say it was covered by the sanctity of the confessional?

These are two totally different things.

My view - as I said about Young Hastie - is that if you are the Boss (you don't get that title without earning it), you say it like it is, for right or wrong.

You don't:- "Aw, shucks, I was in a chopper at the time" - when your man is accused of wrongdoing in removing a terrorist's hand for fingerprint ID, which is SOP in extremis.

By the same token, you do not say - "Oh, I know that guy was unarmed, and the Trooper shot him without abiding by the rules of engagement - but I chose to sweep it under the carpet."

For those of you up in the air about SAS engagements in Afghanistan - and Pell - the same rules apply... you do what is Right in the circumstances, and if you know wrong was done, you say so - you don't just "Aw, shucks".... and you don't hang your man out to dry for following SOP in extremis, either. You OWN your position - that's what leadership is about, even when it hurts.

If Pell was aware of wrongdoing, he should have acted positively, not allowed the sanctity of the confessional to cover the deeds..... but until he is charged with that, and indeed until laws are created to make this an offence and it is proven to the proper standard - he bears no guilt to date.

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Reply #524 - Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:59pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:17pm:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 3:09pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

cods wrote on Apr 17^th, 2020 at 7:12am:

by all accounts he admitted to a royal that he knew of risdales paedophilier yet moved him around just the same ...

Yes, but who did he support in court? The victims or the predator? Wake up to yourself.

I dont know I do not recall the royal.....what I do know is RISDALE got 29 years... and if pell confessed he knew about his activities.....he could still be charged with aiding and abetting... there is no time limit on Royal Comm findings they do swear an oath....... so why hasnt he been charged by the police???????

thats all I am asking..

I do recall, Pell supported Risdale, not the victims. In this context the question of whether Pell got charged or not is irrelevant, he is still a reprehensible human being who deserves to hang. We know Pell supported the pedophiles, its on record and he does not deny it, so why are you going all out to support him? What is in your mind to argue for and offer support to this disgusting human being?

Well - what did he DO or SAY to support Risdale? Did he actively support his activities or did he say it was covered by the sanctity of the confessional?

These are two totally different things.

My view - as I said about Young Hastie - is that if you are the Boss (you don't get that title without earning it), you say it like it is, for right or wrong.

You don't:- "Aw, shucks, I was in a chopper at the time" - when your man is accused of wrongdoing in removing a terrorist's hand for fingerprint ID, which is SOP in extremis.

By the same token, you do not say - "Oh, I know that guy was unarmed, and the Trooper shot him without abiding by the rules of engagement - but I chose to sweep it under the carpet."

For those of you up in the air about SAS engagements in Afghanistan - and Pell - the same rules apply... you do what is Right in the circumstances, and if you know wrong was done, you say so - you don't just "Aw, shucks".... and you don't hang your man out to dry for following SOP in extremis, either. You OWN your position - that's what leadership is about, even when it hurts.

If Pell was aware of wrongdoing, he should have acted positively, not allowed the sanctity of the confessional to cover the deeds..... but until he is charged with that, and indeed until laws are created to make this an offence and it is proven to the proper standard - he bears no guilt to date.

And this is what Pell said about Risdales pedophile activities
Quote:

In an admission which drew gasps in the Sydney hearing room, the Cardinal said he didn't have "much interest" in complaints about Ridsdale.

"I didn't know whether it was common knowledge or whether it wasn't," he said. "It's a sad story and it wasn't of much interest to me."

https://www.smh.com.au/national/cardinal-george-pell-blames-former-bishop-for-letting-abuse-fester-20160301-gn71uj.html
The abuse of children not of much interest to Pell, but he certainly had plenty of interest in standing by the pedophile in court.

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