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Re: Pell walks
Reply #405 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:17pm

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Why do you think allegations against Pell not pertaining to the case being tried was not introduced by the prosecution Aussie....

Because they are inadmissible, simple as that. Do you seriously expect the Law to allow scuttlebutt to become part of evidence in a criminal trial?

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If you claim you are a lawyer you know the prosecution cannot introduce allegations not proven in court unless the defence introduces the material or they are relevant to the criminal proceedings on trial....

Even if allegations are proven, ie prior convctions, they are not per se admissible in a Trial for a later event.

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The prosecution more than likely tried to introduce witnesses to tell there story and were rebuffed by the judge....

I'll bet they did not. These blokes are not armchair Lawyers. They know it is not possible and to attempt crap like that would leave an indelible stain on their credentials in front of every Trial Judge.

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Now the criminal trial is over Pell will face civil action which is where these allegations will be judged....There was no incompetence just laws that protect the innocent and the guilty???

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I am sure he will be sued. He can brush it off, and it will not cost him a razoo. Those Trials will be great to watch as they unfold. But remember, the onus of proof in a civil trial is based on probability, nothing more. The outcome neither exonerates him or convicts him of any criminal act.

Laws are there for a very good reason, Phil, and proof beyond reasonable doubt is a cornerstone of our criminal justice system.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #406 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:28pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 4:24pm:

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 1:57pm:

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 12:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 10:45am:

cods wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 11:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 6:57pm:

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he still tenses up when it comes on TV......he has been compensated but it doesnt take away the years of living with it does it?....

By whom, cods?

what the heck does that mean?

Follow the money, cods. You can bet it did not come out of Pell's bank account.

I still dont know what you are talking about....

only an idiot would think pell was personally paying out compensation.. Undecided

So.....where did the money come from? It likely was a cheque. Whose cheque?

I dont pry like you do...

and I wouldnt now..so stop asking.

Which means you really don't give a stuff about actually finding who the accomplices were. You'd rather rant. Okay. I get it.

dont give a stuff what you get...

have you grilled Pell on who paid for him to defend himself????????...

how many crooks did you take money from to represent them in court.??....just one or two cases you have posted here shows you were not adverse to taking money from....???? questionable people...

did you ever ask them where did you get this money they paid you..from??????????????.... Roll Eyes

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #408 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:45pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:19pm:

I have to admit I'm far more comfortable with gregs and Aussies opinion of the decision, which seems to be on the basis of good faith in regards to the law.

Yaddas on the other hand, seems to be on the basis, that Pells a catholic archbishop therefore he could not have done it.

bojack, the liar, the slanderer.

If that is a false accusation [on my part], then quote me [link?].

The bit about, i care, ....'that Pells a catholic archbishop therefore he could not have done it' .

WHERE have i said anything like that ??? !

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pell walks Reply #409 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:49pm Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:43pm: Still ranting. Let me know when you are serious about the heirarchy of the Church having responsibility way beyond Pell. its interesting you dont understand a word I write and I dont understand a word you write..how about you ping off...
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Re: Pell walks
Reply #410 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:57pm

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:43pm:

Still ranting. Let me know when you are serious about the heirarchy of the Church having responsibility way beyond Pell.

its interesting you dont understand a word I write and I dont understand a word you write..how about you ping off...

No.

You'd be the only person here who claims not to know what simple English means.

If you want the culprits above Pell, follow the money, cods.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #411 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 2:07pm:

Where is full interview with Bolt?

I can only find 38 seconds of it here:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

It says at the bottom:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

This must-see televised interview will air on Tuesday
14 April at 7pm, only on Sky News Australia.

I don't have sky news. Cry

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pell walks Reply #412 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:05pm whatever!
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Re: Pell walks
Reply #413 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 2:07pm:

Where is full interview with Bolt?

I can only find 38 seconds of it here:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

It says at the bottom:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

This must-see televised interview will air on Tuesday
14 April at 7pm, only on Sky News Australia.

I don't have sky news. Cry

if you have Win TV bobs punch in 83

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #414 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:12pm

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 2:07pm:

Where is full interview with Bolt?

I can only find 38 seconds of it here:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

It says at the bottom:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

This must-see televised interview will air on Tuesday
14 April at 7pm, only on Sky News Australia.

I don't have sky news. Cry

if you have Win TV bobs punch in 83

Yes.

It will be played on 'SKY on Win'.

Where i am, its ch. 85.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #415 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:19pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:12pm:

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 2:07pm:

Where is full interview with Bolt?

I can only find 38 seconds of it here:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

It says at the bottom:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6148718483001

This must-see televised interview will air on Tuesday
14 April at 7pm, only on Sky News Australia.

I don't have sky news. Cry

if you have Win TV bobs punch in 83

Yes.

It will be played on 'SKY on Win'.

Where i am, its ch. 85.

Win TV doesn't appear to be in Melbourne.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #416 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:27pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 13^th, 2020 at 7:14pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 7:08pm:

@ Reply #311,

Full marks, to cods.

You're easily pleased.

I don't want to hear you bag Muslims anymore

because it seems you're as big a fanatical Catholic. Roll Eyes

Gnads,

I have lots, and lots of EVIDENCES, against ISLAM.

They are referenced within, and laid out for all to see, ...in the precepts and in the doctrines of ISLAM and ISLAMIC law.

And here are lots of examples, of the followers of ISLAM engaging in violent behaviour, [which they themselves claim!!!, is] on behalf of their religion.

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THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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Gnads,

If you are going to make AN ACCUSATION against George Pell,
then SORRY, ...BUT SOMEONE GOT THERE BEFORE YOU!!!!

But, if you have EVIDENCES [against George Pell] which could be presented in a court of law,
THEN WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR ?

.....YOU, GREAT BIG, NAME CALLING, BIGOT !!!!    [with no evidences to present, which would stand up, in an Australian court of law].

evidence = = information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.    information used to establish facts in a legal investigation or admissible as testimony in a law court.

bigot = = a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others. a Gnads.

prejudice = = preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.    unjust behaviour formed on such a basis.

Gnads,

All that i see in youself, is a person who is willing to condemn another human being,
ON THE UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATION of an accuser,
on the basis of having NO SUBSTANTIATING EVIDENCES OF THE WRONGDOING being presented.

You've obviously lost the plot .. I'm not talking about Pells recent trial & appeal.

& even with a dog collar on you couldn't follow a lead

re: your evidences about Islam .... whoopee

do you honestly think your the only one?

Quoting/interpreting what's said in a translated Koran is no big deal.

At the end of the day Yadda my comment was in relation to your blind support of Pell which is sounding no different than Muslims blindly following Islam & supporting everything in the Koran.

If you go back through my posts in this thread you will see that it doesn't take a Sherlock Holmes to know Pell was involved in covering up for & shifting paedo priests.

The title of the thread is "Pell Walks".

It wasn't he's innocent, it wasn't that he has no knowledge of child abusers in the church.

So he has walked from his own personal sexual abuse charges, it was a technicality of the law & the failure of the prosecution to provide evidence beyond reasonable doubt.

That doesn't mean he's innocent of that charge not does it mean that there won't be more fall out for him regarding his mention in the Royal Commission into Institutional Response to Child Sexual Assault.

And anyone who supports people who are some how involved in that are the biggest bigots & hypocrites if they attack Muhammads Islam for it's attitude on child marriage & paedophilia.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #417 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:33pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:19pm:

I have to admit I'm far more comfortable with gregs and Aussies opinion of the decision, which seems to be on the basis of good faith in regards to the law. Yaddas on the other hand, seems to be on te basis, that Pells a catholic archbishop therefore he could not have done it.

In one.

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Re: Pell walks
Reply #418 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:26pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 5:17pm: