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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #210 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:43pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:29pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:25pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

That’s the bottom line, some are fair, and some like the feeling of power.
Good cops vs bad cops.

then you get rid of the bad cops,......... not change the rules

Ooh okaaay, I will remember to do that 🤗

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Reply #211 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:16pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

A lot of the fines were later refunded or withdrawn because they were, quite frankly, stupid. And they are just the glaringly obvious ones. We are seeing all sorts of issues caused by handing the police unchecked authority to be dicks.

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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #212 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:27pm

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

A lot of the fines were later refunded or withdrawn because they were, quite frankly, stupid. And they are just the glaringly obvious ones. We are seeing all sorts of issues caused by handing the police unchecked authority to be dicks.

The Victoria police have lost a lot of good will with the public.

An old man was out alone - legally walking for exercise for 20 minutes and got tired so sat
on a park bench for 2 minutes and was fined $1652.

Someone was legally exercising alone on a paddle board
at a beach & got fined $1650.

A man was fined $1650 for being alone visiting the grave of his wife.

I'm hearing case after case on 3AW radio and
so many people are very angry about it because they
were maintaining social distance laws.

At the same time an interstate aeroplane flight showed that a plane was
packed with people sitting side by side and that was OK.
Go figure?

Some of the fines were later withdrawn.

You give the police an inch and they take a mile.

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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #213 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:27pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

A lot of the fines were later refunded or withdrawn because they were, quite frankly, stupid. And they are just the glaringly obvious ones. We are seeing all sorts of issues caused by handing the police unchecked authority to be dicks.

The Victoria police have lost a lot of good will with the public.

An old man was out alone - legally walking for exercise for 20 minutes and got tired so sat
on a park bench for 2 minutes and was fined $1652.

Someone was legally exercising alone on a paddle board
at a beach & got fined $1650.

A man was fined $1650 for being alone visiting the grave of his wife.

I'm hearing case after case on 3AW radio and
so many people are very angry about it because they
were maintaining social distance laws.

At the same time an interstate aeroplane flight showed that a plane was
packed with people sitting side by side and that was OK.
Go figure?

Some of the fines were later withdrawn.

You give the police an inch and they take a mile.

Ah.

3AW

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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #214 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:41pm

Heartbroken daughter is left 'inconsolable' as ARMED POLICE storm her father's funeral to enforce ten-person limit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8215625/Police-interrupt-womans-fathers-funeral-enforce-social-distancing-rules.html?fbclid=IwAR2lCWfsFQF9XmgZZaG4vAfeAwxwSPgLfGt8c2SyJ0SP-YQth-D-HP06Ews#article-8215625

A woman was left 'inconsolable' after armed police officers interrupted her father's funeral to enforce a 10-person attendance limit imposed as part of coronavirus social distancing rules.

Helen Kolovos' funeral for her father in Victoria on Saturday was disrupted by two officers who walked into the church as his coffin was being carried out near the end of the service.

Ms Kolovos said the officers started counting the number of people in attendance.

The federal government imposed a limit of 10 people at funerals last month in a bid to slow the spread of COVID-19, which has killed 61 Australians and infected more than 6,300.

Ms Kolovos said they had complied with the ten-person limit, and family members even sat in separate pews despite coming from the same household.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: The fun-police state Reply #215 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 4:14pm do you think they are tracking ever funeral now fd???.. its good to know maybe they just happened on this one after seeing the line of cars following a hearse..... then again there could be a dob in line for funerals.... what about the wake....any news on them being raided.??
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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #216 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 4:38pm

cods wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 4:14pm:

do you think they are tracking ever funeral now fd???..

its good to know maybe they just happened on this one after seeing the line of cars following a hearse.....

then again there could be a dob in line for funerals....

what about the wake....any news on them being raided.??

Just invite a hairdresser to your funeral - problem solved.

Although, the funeral will be limited to 30 minutes.

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Reply #217 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:09pm

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

A lot of the fines were later refunded or withdrawn because they were, quite frankly, stupid. And they are just the glaringly obvious ones. We are seeing all sorts of issues caused by handing the police unchecked authority to be dicks.

they were refunded? so they weren't unchecked after all, you made it up?

It's a rapidly changing situation. Mistakes will be made From all sides. Crying that your a victim and should do away with fines altogether won't help anyone, it'll just endanger innocent people

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76829 Gender:	Re: The fun-police state Reply #218 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:10pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:27pm: The Victoria police have lost a lot of good will with the public. you've been whinging about them for years. What goodwill did they lose?
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Reply #219 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:37pm

People by themselves are paying massive fines
yet this is what is going on with Govt. approval -
go figure?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8215593/Qantas-passenger-shares-photo-p...

Would you get on this flight? Horrified passenger shares a photo of a PACKED Qantas plane with travellers sitting right next to each other despite strict social-distancing rules

Qantas passenger claims he was on packed plane in breach of social distancing
Was on flight from Townsville in North Queensland to Brisbane on Monday
Qantas has slashed flights between the two cities from 36 per week to just 14

A passenger claims the photo was taken on a flight from Townsville to Brisbane on Monday

The passenger insists the photo was taken on Monday and also shared a photo of his boarding pass to back up his claim.

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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #220 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:40pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

A lot of the fines were later refunded or withdrawn because they were, quite frankly, stupid. And they are just the glaringly obvious ones. We are seeing all sorts of issues caused by handing the police unchecked authority to be dicks.

they were refunded? so they weren't unchecked after all, you made it up?

It's a rapidly changing situation. Mistakes will be made From all sides. Crying that your a victim and should do away with fines altogether won't help anyone, it'll just endanger innocent people

They are still getting away with the excesses they are getting away with. As I just explained. It was only the "too stupid to sweep under the rug" ones that got refunded.

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Re: The fun-police state
Reply #221 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:50pm

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 3:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:14pm:

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.

fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk

Sophia wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 2:10pm:

But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

A lot of the fines were later refunded or withdrawn because they were, quite frankly, stupid. And they are just the glaringly obvious ones. We are seeing all sorts of issues caused by handing the police unchecked authority to be dicks.

And for every fine that is withdrawn because of being stupid ....... there are twice or more issued that are warranted.

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Reply #222 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 6:37pm:

People by themselves are paying massive fines
yet this is what is going on with Govt. approval -
go figure?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/14/00/27154168-8215593-image-a-8_1586821312...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8215593/Qantas-passenger-shares-photo-p...

Would you get on this flight? Horrified passenger shares a photo of a PACKED Qantas plane with travellers sitting right next to each other despite strict social-distancing rules

Qantas passenger claims he was on packed plane in breach of social distancing
Was on flight from Townsville in North Queensland to Brisbane on Monday
Qantas has slashed flights between the two cities from 36 per week to just 14

A passenger claims the photo was taken on a flight from Townsville to Brisbane on Monday

The passenger insists the photo was taken on Monday and also shared a photo of his boarding pass to back up his claim.

What sort of firearm was used when the passengers were forced onto the plane at gunpoint?

I'm curious.

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Reply #223 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:28pm

Local Police = not bad.
Highway Patrol = revenue rakers.

Cops
NSW = keep the Rich honest, but turn a blind eye to the Street level poor, hence a lot of 'riots' in Sydney.
VIC = keep the poor honest, but turn a blind eye to the Rich like Skase, Packers, Bond, Grollo Bros, Rivken, etc.

SA = They sleep with your girlfriend, wife, mother, etc.
QLD = They take bribes - just ask Fitzgerald.

WA = Corrupt from top to bottom
NT = The shoot on site

Tas = the Worse Cops of all, because they make you marry into their 6 fingered Family.
ACT = Fake Cops handing out Fake Fines to Politicians.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 143466 Gender:	Re: The fun-police state Reply #224 - Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:29pm Jasin wrote on Apr 14^th, 2020 at 7:28pm: Highway Patrol = revenue rakers. What's wrong with the police having revenue? Would you rather they were broke? I'm curious.
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