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Reply #195 - Apr 13th, 2020 at 7:30pm
 
This is getting ridiculous - fined for visiting a remote beach? WTF? Do the police really have nothing better to do? Shouldn't they be staying home to avoid spreading the virus rather than travelling in groups to remote areas just to be pricks?

Coronavirus restrictions: Group of men caught eating pizza in car filmed arguing with police

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/coronavirus-restrictions-group-of-men-caught-eating-pizza-in-car-filmed-arguing-with-police/news-story/1a8735366531796351882c69e3d7e625?fbclid=IwAR1i9dyuSyWM-COJafgtyezc1sErZzELtRe2tEp6dLXU0Y_OGmYj6s-xPyQ

A group of men who were allegedly caught sitting in their car eating pizza over the weekend have been filmed in a fiery exchange with police.

A group of men have been caught out by new coronavirus restrictions after police saw them sitting in a car together eating pizza over the weekend.

The group of four was caught in Condell Park in southwest Sydney on Saturday afternoon when they were spotted by police, who moved in to break up the gathering.

But the incident escalated as more than 10 officers attended the scene, and one of the men was handcuffed and began arguing with officers.

“Look at what youse have done to me, and for what?” one of the men — handcuffed and sitting on a driveway — yelled at police during the exchange, which was filmed and posted online.

Police across the country cracked down on Aussies flouting social distancing restrictions over the Easter long weekend, and issued on-the-spot fines to more than 100 people in NSW alone on Saturday.

“We’re sitting down eating and the f***ing dogs came for no reason,” one of the men says during the lengthy exchange.

“Under the legislation of this country, I’m entitled to say whatever I want, to whoever I want,” another of the men tells the officers.

Two Milperra men, aged 22 and 26, were fined $1000 each for failing to comply with a public health order, according to a statement from NSW Police. Police also fined an older man at the scene for using offensive language.

RELATED: All the fines you can cop for ignoring virus rules

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NSW Police issued a total of 111 fines in 24 hours over Good Friday and Easter Saturday.

Recipients of the fines included a Darlinghurst woman, 25, who was spotted by police at Copacabana Beach on the Central Coast on Saturday. She told police she was watching her boyfriend surfing and was fined $1000.

Police also went to the remote village of Sandon in the Northern Rivers region on Saturday after being told a husband and wife had arrived there for the Easter break.

A man, 53, and his wife, 51, told police they’d been in the area for two weeks. But police found they’d only arrived two days beforehand. They were both fined $1000 and told to return home to Lennox Head.

Police said they also had to speak with another couple and their two children, and tell them to return to their home in Petersham in Sydney’s inner west.

Police also had to move on four people who they spotted sitting on a park bench at Maroubra Junction on Saturday afternoon.

After conducting checks they found all four members of the group, three men, 33, 45 and 55, and a woman, 32, had previously been warned about following social distancing orders.

They were told they’d be fined and moved on from the area according to NSW Police.
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Reply #196 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 7:53am
 
I think we have become so good at shielding our eyes from the realities of life that when it finally breaks back through people like Pecca start sucking their thumb into a catatonic state of fear. That's why people get outraged that the Chinese are already back buying bats for dinner at the wet market, while we have industrial incinerators to quietly dispose of the corpses of pets we no longer want. That's why people get hysterical about others insisting on having fun while they cower at home in fear, and throw all perspective out the window in telling others what they should and should not be doing. That's how Pecca somehow deluded himself into thinking that banning people from beaches was somehow based on medical advice. It's why people think this virus is some major catastrophe, yet when we look at all of Australia's death statistics you would not even be able to see the blip. So they sit at home eating themselves to death in fear of having any fun.

Shoppers 'distressed' by cop car driving into Brisbane organic market during coronavirus pandemic

https://www.9news.com.au/national/shoppers-shaken-by-cop-car-driving-into-markets-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/eace941c-e24c-4bfd-a48c-342c27f6fb2a?ocid=Social-9NewsB&fbclid=IwAR0EFMeVUKmvDSfHbOD3oNAWte7tZWzWi6lUkidkMr-Z-eDgO4IUJ7hvbmM

hoppers and stallholders at a Brisbane organic food market have been left startled after a police car drove through the centre of the usually bustling thoroughfare.

Video posted on the Northey St Organic Farmers Market Facebook page shows the police car coming close to market stalls and customers as it patrolled the market Saturday morning.

The footage emerged almost 10 days after large crowds were seen attending the Jan Powers Powerhouse Farmers' Markets in New Farm.

The April 4 incident was slammed by Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk who threatened to shut down markets if people continued to flout social distancing rules.
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Reply #197 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 10:19am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 13th, 2020 at 7:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 13th, 2020 at 10:36am:
freediver wrote on Apr 12th, 2020 at 6:09pm:
What is extreme about wanting to go to the beach?


whats extreme is the stupidity of those going to the beach. Most of the country hasn't closed beaches because most people behave. Idiots not listening caused some beaches to be closed. If you have a problem, blame the idiots rather than the govt.


Not listening to what? We had the same idiotic over-reaction to people at the Gold Coast today. Again, the article had a big photo clearly showing plenty of space between people.


not listening to the rules about social distancing. and don't ask what rules, you've been given the answer multiple times in multiple threads already. If you want to play the fool, do it with someone else

and how do you know the photos show plenty of space?

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Here's a good example - the people in the photo were 3 pixels high, but he reckons he could tell how far apart they were
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can you tell how far apart they are on the photo's or not? you can't have it both ways
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Reply #198 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:05am
 
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not listening to the rules about social distancing


John, that means distancing yourself from other people, not from the ocean.

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and how do you know the photos show plenty of space?


Because I have eyes.

And a brain.

That's all you need.
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Reply #199 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:36am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:05am:
John, that means distancing yourself from other people, not from the ocean.



you do know beach and ocean aren't the same thing, right?

freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:05am:
Because I have eyes.



so does everyne else. Are you trying to say that with those photos no one can tell how far apart they are sitting, except for you? are you specciiialll FD?
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Reply #200 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 12:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 7:53am:
I think we have become so good at shielding our eyes from the realities of life that when it finally breaks back through people like Pecca start sucking their thumb into a catatonic state of fear. That's why people get outraged that the Chinese are already back buying bats for dinner at the wet market, while we have industrial incinerators to quietly dispose of the corpses of pets we no longer want. That's why people get hysterical about others insisting on having fun while they cower at home in fear, and throw all perspective out the window in telling others what they should and should not be doing. That's how Pecca somehow deluded himself into thinking that banning people from beaches was somehow based on medical advice. It's why people think this virus is some major catastrophe, yet when we look at all of Australia's death statistics you would not even be able to see the blip. So they sit at home eating themselves to death in fear of having any fun.

Shoppers 'distressed' by cop car driving into Brisbane organic market during coronavirus pandemic

https://www.9news.com.au/national/shoppers-shaken-by-cop-car-driving-into-markets-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/eace941c-e24c-4bfd-a48c-342c27f6fb2a?ocid=Social-9NewsB&fbclid=IwAR0EFMeVUKmvDSfHbOD3oNAWte7tZWzWi6lUkidkMr-Z-eDgO4IUJ7hvbmM

hoppers and stallholders at a Brisbane organic food market have been left startled after a police car drove through the centre of the usually bustling thoroughfare.

Video posted on the Northey St Organic Farmers Market Facebook page shows the police car coming close to market stalls and customers as it patrolled the market Saturday morning.

The footage emerged almost 10 days after large crowds were seen attending the Jan Powers Powerhouse Farmers' Markets in New Farm.

The April 4 incident was slammed by Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk who threatened to shut down markets if people continued to flout social distancing rules.


The essential travel that you are allowed is within your local postcode.

Not hours drive north, south east or west regardless of isolation.
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Reply #201 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 12:48pm
 
My local postcode changes within metres of our driveway as our property borders along a boundary road in a green wedge area. 🤔

Us country folk have to drive far to get to shops, unlike most suburbanites within a 5 minute walk to a shop of some sort.

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Reply #202 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 12:59pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:36am:
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:05am:
John, that means distancing yourself from other people, not from the ocean.



you do know beach and ocean aren't the same thing, right?

freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 11:05am:
Because I have eyes.



so does everyne else. Are you trying to say that with those photos no one can tell how far apart they are sitting, except for you? are you specciiialll FD?


Basically. It appears most people are idiots. Some are blind.

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The essential travel that you are allowed is within your local postcode.


Crap.
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Reply #203 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 1:37pm
 
Yeah fun police state, you see how much revenue raising made in each state?
All morning here, just on our busy road we live on, even if it is a green wedge, there’s the police siren going several time’s (unmarked white Prado) and people are being pulled over.

They’re busy little beavers!

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Reply #204 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 1:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 12:59pm:
Basically. It appears most people are idiots. Some are blind.



many on here certainly ... just look at those that claim no one can tell the distance apart on a photo, except for them
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Reply #205 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 1:40pm
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
Yeah fun police state, you see how much revenue raising made in each state?



what alternative do you suggest to get people to listen? we jail them? will that be better?
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Reply #206 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 1:40pm:
Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 1:37pm:
Yeah fun police state, you see how much revenue raising made in each state?



what alternative do you suggest to get people to listen? we jail them? will that be better?

I think that’s part of it too somewhere?
Not saying they not doing an active good job of making their fearful presence felt.
But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!
I know some fines were ridiculous and and uproar occurred, the learner driver, the man washing his car at night at a car wash, and both charges were dropped after.
So I wonder, what are the majority of fines are for? I’m certain some would be pathetic small instances as an excuse.
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Reply #207 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:14pm
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm:
Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.



fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk


Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm:
But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job
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Reply #208 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:14pm:
Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm:
Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.



fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk


Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm:
But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

That’s the bottom line, some are fair, and some like the feeling of power.
Good cops vs bad cops.



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Reply #209 - Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:29pm
 
Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:14pm:
Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm:
Not saying they not going a good job of making their fearful presence felt.



fearful presence?

I've never been scared of police, even in the old days when driving drunk


Sophia wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 2:10pm:
But I’m astonished at the amount of fines issued!

that says more about the number of people not listening or following the rules. More often than not, the cops are giving warnings and moving people on with no fines. It's only when they think you're deliberately ignoring the rules that they fine you. Of course, there will be some cops who go to far, just as there will be those that don't go far enough, all in all, i think they're doing a pretty good job

That’s the bottom line, some are fair, and some like the feeling of power.
Good cops vs bad cops.





then you get rid of the bad cops,......... not change the rules
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