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Reply #2370 - Jun 7^th, 2025 at 2:48pm

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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 2:28pm:

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Our results demonstrate that antisemitism is significantly higher among Muslims compared to Christian or religiously unaffiliated respondents, and among immigrants from Turkey and the Middle East & North Africa compared to other groups. About 35 per cent of Muslims strongly agreed with classical antisemitic statements.
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Reply #2371 - Jun 9^th, 2025 at 6:46pm

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Far-right Terrorism

Incidents of far-right terrorism have been increasing in the West, particularly in Western Europe, North America, and Oceania. The total number of incidents have increased by 320 per cent over the past five years.

In 2018, total deaths attributed to far-right groups increased by 52 per cent to 26 deaths. To the end of September in 2019, 77 deaths have been attributed to far-right groups.

Deaths have been increasing year on year for the past three years, from 11 deaths in 2017, 26 deaths in 2018, to 77 deaths by the end of September 2019.

However, far-right terrorism remains a small fraction of total terrorism worldwide. Even in the West, historically nationalist or separatist, Islamist, and far-left terrorism has been much more common.

The three largest politically motivated terrorist attacks in the West in the last 50 years have been perpetuated by far-right extremists.

Far-right terrorism in the last ten years has become increasingly associated with individuals with broad ideological allegiances rather than specific terrorist groups.jjIn the last decade, one in three mass shootings have been classified as a terrorist attack, compared to one in five over the last 40 years.

The US has had one of the largest deteriorations in Positive Peace, deteriorating by 6.7 per cent.

The fall in Positive Peace in the West in the last decade has increased the likelihood of a continued increase in politically motivated violence in the next decade. There were 270 politically motivated terrorist attacks between 2013 and 2018.

At least 84 people have been killed in politically motivated terrorist attacks in 2019 thus far.

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Bollocks.

Prevent has long faced critiques for failing to actually stop terror attacks while disproportionately focusing on alleged right-wing threats.

Indeed, a 2023 independent government report by William Shawcross, which found that “extreme right-wing ideology is often identified within Prevent in a manner that includes populist conservative voices who have nothing to do with violent extremism… Yet when it comes to Islamism only the most violently fascist jihadist groups appear to be identified.”

“All the terrorist attacks across Britain committed since my review was commissioned have been Islamist in nature,” Shawcross said. “But far more people are now being referred to Prevent because of extreme right-wing concerns, and the largest numbers appear to be referred because of mental health concerns and domestic and social ‘vulnerabilities’.”

The report also noted that over half of the terror attacks since 2016 had been committed by individuals who were known to the Prevent programme, meaning that they had failed in their aim of de-radicalisation.

This trend continued last year with Axel Rudakubana, the second-generation migrant who committed a mass stabbing at a children’s dance party in Southport, killing three young girls and injuring 10 others. Rudakubana had been reported to Prevent on three separate occasions prior to committing the horrific attack, yet was dismissed as a threat by authorities each time.

There have also been warnings that by classifying “cultural nationalism” as an indication of extremism, the anti-terror scheme could be used to stifle public debate.

Jihadists Remain Europe’s Biggest Terror Threat Despite Focus on Right-Wing
“The findings of the [The annual EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report] 2022 confirm that lone actors associated with jihadist and right-wing violent extremism remain the biggest threat associated with potential terrorist and violent extremist attacks in the EU,” the report published on Wednesday reads.

However, while the report’s own introduction lists right-wing terror as being one of the greatest threats to Europe, the publication’s own data shows that there were over four times the arrests made in regards to radical Islam, as well as nearly four times the number of terror attacks that were either completed, foiled, or failed.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/06/07/cultural-nationalism-and-concern-abo...

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1749423353/9#9

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Reply #2372 - Jun 9^th, 2025 at 7:04pm

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“All the terrorist attacks across Britain committed since my review was commissioned have been Islamist in nature,” Shawcross said.

He's either as stupid as you or lying:

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29 April – 12 July 2013: Pavlo Lapshyn, a Ukrainian student and right-wing extremist, fatally stabbed Birmingham resident Mohammed Saleem on 29 April. Lapshyn later detonated a home-made bomb outside a mosque in Walsall on 21 June.[56] On 28 June, Lapshyn detonated a second home-made bomb near a mosque in Wolverhampton, and attacked a mosque in Tipton with an improvised explosive device containing nails on 12 July. He later admitted to police that he wished to start a "race war"[57] and was sentenced to serve at least 40 years.[58][5

10–14 February 2014: The New Irish Republican Army (NIRA) claims responsibility for a series of parcel bombs sent to army recruitment offices in Oxford, Brighton, Canterbury, Slough, Aldershot, Reading and Chatham.[63][64]
16 June 2016: Murder of Jo Cox – Thomas Mair, a 52-year-old white nationalist, shot and stabbed the MP Jo Cox outside a surgery in Birstall, West Yorkshire, and severely wounded a passerby who came to her aid. The attack was treated as an act of terrorism,[65] and in sentencing Mair to life imprisonment the judge said "There is no doubt that this murder was done for the purpose of advancing a political, racial and ideological cause namely that of violent white supremacism and exclusive nationalism most associated with Nazism and its modern forms".[66]

19 June 2017: Finsbury Park attack – Darren Osborne, a 47 year old British man, drove a van into Muslim worshippers near Finsbury Park Mosque, London. A man who had earlier collapsed and was receiving first aid died at the scene. The incident was investigated by counter-terrorism police as a terrorist attack.[76][77][78] On 23 June, Osborne was charged with terrorism-related murder and attempted murder.[79][80] In February 2018 at Woolwich Crown Court, he was found guilty on both counts[81] and was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 43 years.

16 March 2019: Vincent Fuller, a 50-year-old British man, wrote Facebook posts saying "Kill all the non-English" and expressing agreement with the killer in the Christchurch mosque shootings. He then used a baseball bat to attack the home of a neighbour of Indian descent and several cars driven by non-white drivers, shouting "Kill Muslims" and "white supremacy" according to witnesses, before stabbing a 19-year-old Bulgarian man. A judge found the attack had a "terrorist connection." Fuller was sentenced to prison for 18 years and nine months.[85]

30 October 2022: Dover firebomb attack - Andrew Leak threw three petrol bombs attached to fireworks at the perimeter fence of the Western Jet Foil migrant processing centre in Dover, Kent before killing himself at a nearby petrol station. Two people sustained minor injuries.[9

2 April 2024: Callum Parslow repeatedly stabbed an asylum seeker at a hotel in Hindlip. The attack was motivated by Parslow's extreme racial views and anger over the small boats crisis. He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[96]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain

those are the non Islamic incidents that resulted in injury of damage. There are a lot more that were foiled before there was any injury or damage.

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Reply #2373 - Jun 9^th, 2025 at 8:04pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 7:04pm:

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“All the terrorist attacks across Britain committed since my review was commissioned have been Islamist in nature,” Shawcross said.

He's either as stupid as you or lying:

It's the third option: you are a militant, Bbwiyawnesque moron who comprehends nothing.
Go sweep up.

Prevent must return to its core mission – countering all those ideologies that can lead people to committing or supporting acts of terrorism. This can only be done if Prevent properly understands the nature of these ideologies and how they attract and suborn individuals.

It is correct for Prevent to be increasingly concerned about the growing threat from the Extreme Right. But the facts clearly demonstrate that the most lethal threat in the last 20 years has come from Islamism, and this threat continues.

Since this Independent Review of Prevent was commissioned in 2019, six terrorist attacks have blighted our nation. These took place at Fishmongers’ Hall (November 2019), Whitemoor Prison (January 2020), Streatham (February 2020), Reading (June 2020), Southend (October 2021), and Liverpool (November 2021). In addition, shortly before this report was completed, a British citizen held Jewish civilians hostage at a synagogue in Texas (January 2022). All these attacks were Islamist in nature.

Prevent must address all extremist ideologies proportionately according to the threat each represents. However, my research shows that the present boundaries around what is termed by Prevent as extremist Islamist ideology are drawn too narrowly while the boundaries around the ideology of the extreme right-wing are too broad. This does not allow Prevent to reflect accurately, and deal effectively with, the lethal risks we actually face.
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Other democracies have programmes similar to Prevent. But rarely are these subjected to the same critical attack as is Prevent in Britain. One of the most constant and strident accusations is that Prevent unfairly targets Muslims living here. This is simply not the case.

Islamism as an ideology is not the same as Islam as a faith. In many parts of the world, Muslims are the principal victims of Islamist extremism – in both its non-violent and violent manifestations. Millions have been killed or had their lives ruined by the attacks of terrorist groups like al-Qa’ida, Islamic State, Boko Haram, and others. It is not anti-Muslim to try to prevent the spread of that brutal ideology in Britain or to stop our country’s Muslim children being lured online into the hell of Islamist wars in Syria and elsewhere.
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It is also vital to acknowledge that all too often those who commit terrorist acts in this country have been previously referred to Prevent. This review seeks to address why Prevent apparently failed to understand the danger in these cases and how such failures might be avoided in the future.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/independent-review-of-prevents-report...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Far Right Terrorism Reply #2374 - Jun 9^th, 2025 at 9:16pm Frank wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 8:04pm: It's the third option: you edited what he actually said? Shame on you Agatha
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 55105 Gender:	Re: Far Right Terrorism Reply #2375 - Jun 9^th, 2025 at 11:24pm John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 9:16pm: Frank wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 8:04pm: It's the third option: you edited what he actually said? Shame on you Agatha No, thicko, I quoted from his actual report. Now go and sweep. And don't break anything, ya awkward imbecile.
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Reply #2376 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 1:56pm:

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Far-right Terrorism

Incidents of far-right terrorism have been increasing in the West, particularly in Western Europe, North America, and Oceania. The total number of incidents have increased by 320 per cent over the past five years.

In 2018, total deaths attributed to far-right groups increased by 52 per cent to 26 deaths. To the end of September in 2019, 77 deaths have been attributed to far-right groups.

Deaths have been increasing year on year for the past three years, from 11 deaths in 2017, 26 deaths in 2018, to 77 deaths by the end of September 2019.

However, far-right terrorism remains a small fraction of total terrorism worldwide. Even in the West, historically nationalist or separatist, Islamist, and far-left terrorism has been much more common.

The three largest politically motivated terrorist attacks in the West in the last 50 years have been perpetuated by far-right extremists.

Far-right terrorism in the last ten years has become increasingly associated with individuals with broad ideological allegiances rather than specific terrorist groups.jjIn the last decade, one in three mass shootings have been classified as a terrorist attack, compared to one in five over the last 40 years.

The US has had one of the largest deteriorations in Positive Peace, deteriorating by 6.7 per cent.

The fall in Positive Peace in the West in the last decade has increased the likelihood of a continued increase in politically motivated violence in the next decade. There were 270 politically motivated terrorist attacks between 2013 and 2018.

At least 84 people have been killed in politically motivated terrorist attacks in 2019 thus far.

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You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

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Reply #2377 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 1:56pm:

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Far-right Terrorism

Incidents of far-right terrorism have been increasing in the West, particularly in Western Europe, North America, and Oceania. The total number of incidents have increased by 320 per cent over the past five years.

In 2018, total deaths attributed to far-right groups increased by 52 per cent to 26 deaths. To the end of September in 2019, 77 deaths have been attributed to far-right groups.

Deaths have been increasing year on year for the past three years, from 11 deaths in 2017, 26 deaths in 2018, to 77 deaths by the end of September 2019.

However, far-right terrorism remains a small fraction of total terrorism worldwide. Even in the West, historically nationalist or separatist, Islamist, and far-left terrorism has been much more common.

The three largest politically motivated terrorist attacks in the West in the last 50 years have been perpetuated by far-right extremists.

Far-right terrorism in the last ten years has become increasingly associated with individuals with broad ideological allegiances rather than specific terrorist groups.jjIn the last decade, one in three mass shootings have been classified as a terrorist attack, compared to one in five over the last 40 years.

The US has had one of the largest deteriorations in Positive Peace, deteriorating by 6.7 per cent.

The fall in Positive Peace in the West in the last decade has increased the likelihood of a continued increase in politically motivated violence in the next decade. There were 270 politically motivated terrorist attacks between 2013 and 2018.

At least 84 people have been killed in politically motivated terrorist attacks in 2019 thus far.

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You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #2378 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 1:56pm:

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Far-right Terrorism

Incidents of far-right terrorism have been increasing in the West, particularly in Western Europe, North America, and Oceania. The total number of incidents have increased by 320 per cent over the past five years.

In 2018, total deaths attributed to far-right groups increased by 52 per cent to 26 deaths. To the end of September in 2019, 77 deaths have been attributed to far-right groups.

Deaths have been increasing year on year for the past three years, from 11 deaths in 2017, 26 deaths in 2018, to 77 deaths by the end of September 2019.

However, far-right terrorism remains a small fraction of total terrorism worldwide. Even in the West, historically nationalist or separatist, Islamist, and far-left terrorism has been much more common.

The three largest politically motivated terrorist attacks in the West in the last 50 years have been perpetuated by far-right extremists.

Far-right terrorism in the last ten years has become increasingly associated with individuals with broad ideological allegiances rather than specific terrorist groups.jjIn the last decade, one in three mass shootings have been classified as a terrorist attack, compared to one in five over the last 40 years.

The US has had one of the largest deteriorations in Positive Peace, deteriorating by 6.7 per cent.

The fall in Positive Peace in the West in the last decade has increased the likelihood of a continued increase in politically motivated violence in the next decade. There were 270 politically motivated terrorist attacks between 2013 and 2018.

At least 84 people have been killed in politically motivated terrorist attacks in 2019 thus far.

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You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

A moronic, Bbwiyawnesque thing to say. So you say it

Dreadful.

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Reply #2379 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 5^th, 2020 at 1:56pm:

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Far-right Terrorism

Incidents of far-right terrorism have been increasing in the West, particularly in Western Europe, North America, and Oceania. The total number of incidents have increased by 320 per cent over the past five years.

In 2018, total deaths attributed to far-right groups increased by 52 per cent to 26 deaths. To the end of September in 2019, 77 deaths have been attributed to far-right groups.

Deaths have been increasing year on year for the past three years, from 11 deaths in 2017, 26 deaths in 2018, to 77 deaths by the end of September 2019.

However, far-right terrorism remains a small fraction of total terrorism worldwide. Even in the West, historically nationalist or separatist, Islamist, and far-left terrorism has been much more common.

The three largest politically motivated terrorist attacks in the West in the last 50 years have been perpetuated by far-right extremists.

Far-right terrorism in the last ten years has become increasingly associated with individuals with broad ideological allegiances rather than specific terrorist groups.jjIn the last decade, one in three mass shootings have been classified as a terrorist attack, compared to one in five over the last 40 years.

The US has had one of the largest deteriorations in Positive Peace, deteriorating by 6.7 per cent.

The fall in Positive Peace in the West in the last decade has increased the likelihood of a continued increase in politically motivated violence in the next decade. There were 270 politically motivated terrorist attacks between 2013 and 2018.

At least 84 people have been killed in politically motivated terrorist attacks in 2019 thus far.

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You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So you, a Doctor of Divinity admit to being a right wing terrorist.
Thats very honest of you old chum.

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Reply #2380 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 5:10pm

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So you, a Doctor of Divinity admit to being a right wing terrorist.
Thats very honest of you old chum.

Do I? Where? Care to quote back to us where I make an admission as such? Or do you presume too much? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #2381 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 6:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So you, a Doctor of Divinity admit to being a right wing terrorist.
Thats very honest of you old chum.

Do I? Where? Care to quote back to us where I make an admission as such? Or do you presume too much? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You have stated, in the past that you have a Dr of Divinity and that you were a Corporal in the Army. Very similar to Hitler who of course liked Muslims and was aided and abetted by them in North Africa and the Middle East.
The only question remains is "did Hitler have children'?

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Reply #2382 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 7:38pm

Frank wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 11:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 9:16pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 8:04pm:

It's the third option:

you edited what he actually said? Shame on you Agatha

No, thicko, I quoted from his actual report.

Now go and sweep. And don't break anything, ya awkward imbecile.

so he lied ... and you fell for it Cheesy

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Reply #2383 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 7:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So you, a Doctor of Divinity admit to being a right wing terrorist.
Thats very honest of you old chum.

Do I? Where? Care to quote back to us where I make an admission as such? Or do you presume too much? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #2384 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 10:54pm

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 6:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 5:10pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:01pm:

kemal wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 2:11pm:

You do realise that Islam is a far right organization Brian.

So in Christianity (as practiced by most Churches), Buddhism, Shintoism, etc. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So you, a Doctor of Divinity admit to being a right wing terrorist.
Thats very honest of you old chum.

Do I? Where? Care to quote back to us where I make an admission as such? Or do you presume too much? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You have stated, in the past that you have a Dr of Divinity and that you were a Corporal in the Army. Very similar to Hitler who of course liked Muslims and was aided and abetted by them in North Africa and the Middle East.
The only question remains is "did Hitler have children'?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, what a long bow you are drawing there, Kernal. You should start working for the Tories, I hear they like tall tales, worked really well at the last Federal Election, hey? Keep trying, you're amusing. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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