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Re: Why do I pay taxes?
Reply #15 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:11pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:03pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:42pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:56am:

Why do you pay taxes ?

Simple - to pay for the WELFARE handouts to the Lefties.

And we also pay for:
- negative gearing.
- franking dividends
- tax relief for the big companies
- pensions and part pensions for righties.
- and royal commissions into bush fire to name a few to start.

You left out
Huge salaries to worthless public servants.
Huge pensions to ex public servants
Huge amounts of money to worthless dead beat countries that hate us.
Huge amounts of money to the United (muzzo) nations.
Huge amounts of money to a dying primitive culture.

We could cut back all this waste and use the cash to fund worthwhile expenditure.

Sure, where do you think we should spend the money on?

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Re: Why do I pay taxes?
Reply #16 - Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:39pm

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:11pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:03pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:42pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:56am:

Why do you pay taxes ?

Simple - to pay for the WELFARE handouts to the Lefties.

And we also pay for:
- negative gearing.
- franking dividends
- tax relief for the big companies
- pensions and part pensions for righties.
- and royal commissions into bush fire to name a few to start.

You left out
Huge salaries to worthless public servants.
Huge pensions to ex public servants
Huge amounts of money to worthless dead beat countries that hate us.
Huge amounts of money to the United (muzzo) nations.
Huge amounts of money to a dying primitive culture.

We could cut back all this waste and use the cash to fund worthwhile expenditure.

Sure, where do you think we should spend the money on?

Infrastructure.
Dams, power, roads etc
Public transport
Hospitals for our aging population
Living pensions for those who have worked all their lives.
A functional police force that actually solves crimes, not revenue raisers.
Investment in Australian business.
Buying back Australia.
You know
What we pay taxes for.

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Re: Why do I pay taxes?
Reply #17 - Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 11:00pm

crocodile wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:34am:

Bam wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:03am:

The government creates money by spending.

The government removes money by taxing. Taxes control inflation.

We don't run an MMT model here. Liquidity is controlled via financial securities.

You need to dig a little deeper then. Find out how fiat money works. We're not on the gold standard any more.

The government does NOT sell securities and then spend that money. The government simply spends the money into existence. Of course, it can't do that without controlling inflation, hence it creates demand through taxes, and yes it sells securities as well.

But the idea that the government has to offset spending with securities is demonstrably false. How did the USA deal with the GFC? By creating trillions of dollars out of thin air. Where were the securities to pay for that? They don't exist - the money was simply created out of nothing.

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Re: Why do I pay taxes?
Reply #18 - Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 11:41pm

crocodile wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 10:39pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 10:18pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:32am:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 6:55am:

I note that the submarines (French Mk I) are now costing $80Bn instead of $50Bn, and the French are saying that Australian companies can't build them properly...

Those Frogs must really need $80Bn.....

Where is our free trade reciprocal contract to extract $80Bn from France? Level playing field, innit? Our government sells out and theirs takes as much as it can get ...... Cool

We don't have an FTA with France.

You are so right - but where is the principle in having any if they don't apply across the board?

WHY are we spending $80m offshore with no chance of any reciprocal trade coming in?

You want to trust North African Muslims working in French shipyards to build YOUR boat?

There is a reciprocal arrangement. We give them money and they give us boats.

Ah - so the unit cost per dollar in relative exchange of contracts is not considered when determining who should receive a contract? Cool

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Re: Why do I pay taxes?
Reply #19 - Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 11:43pm

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:39pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:11pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:03pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:42pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:56am:

Why do you pay taxes ?

Simple - to pay for the WELFARE handouts to the Lefties.

And we also pay for:
- negative gearing.
- franking dividends
- tax relief for the big companies
- pensions and part pensions for righties.
- and royal commissions into bush fire to name a few to start.

You left out
Huge salaries to worthless public servants.
Huge pensions to ex public servants
Huge amounts of money to worthless dead beat countries that hate us.
Huge amounts of money to the United (muzzo) nations.
Huge amounts of money to a dying primitive culture.

We could cut back all this waste and use the cash to fund worthwhile expenditure.

Sure, where do you think we should spend the money on?

Infrastructure.
Dams, power, roads etc
Public transport
Hospitals for our aging population
Living pensions for those who have worked all their lives.
A functional police force that actually solves crimes, not revenue raisers.
Investment in Australian business.
Buying back Australia.
You know
What we pay taxes for.

You forgot 'pay the rent', Bro - those footballer spokespersons for Aboriginal discontent on their often multi-million contracts need that rent money...

Damn - Maoris gave them a caning tonight... doesn't look good for the upcoming Trans-Tasman Tests... somebody has to knee-cap Brandon Smith...

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Re: Why do I pay taxes?
Reply #20 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 1:55pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 11:43pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:39pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:11pm:

Valkie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:03pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:42pm:

juliar wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:56am:

Why do you pay taxes ?

Simple - to pay for the WELFARE handouts to the Lefties.

And we also pay for:
- negative gearing.
- franking dividends
- tax relief for the big companies
- pensions and part pensions for righties.
- and royal commissions into bush fire to name a few to start.

You left out
Huge salaries to worthless public servants.
Huge pensions to ex public servants
Huge amounts of money to worthless dead beat countries that hate us.
Huge amounts of money to the United (muzzo) nations.
Huge amounts of money to a dying primitive culture.

We could cut back all this waste and use the cash to fund worthwhile expenditure.

Sure, where do you think we should spend the money on?

Infrastructure.
Dams, power, roads etc
Public transport
Hospitals for our aging population
Living pensions for those who have worked all their lives.
A functional police force that actually solves crimes, not revenue raisers.
Investment in Australian business.
Buying back Australia.
You know
What we pay taxes for.

You forgot 'pay the rent', Bro - those footballer spokespersons for Aboriginal discontent on their often multi-million contracts need that rent money...

Damn - Maoris gave them a caning tonight... doesn't look good for the upcoming Trans-Tasman Tests... somebody has to knee-cap Brandon Smith...

Give it a little while
The abbos will be screaming racist, because they were not allowed to win "on their land"

It's a wonder they didn't threaten the NZ team like they did the French girl in the Olympics
They scared her so much she didn't compete.
That's the only reason the dead beat won.
If truth be known, the others were probably threatened also

Must be great knowing you won by cheating and threats, eh cat?

As for paying the rent.
I have been overcharged all my life.
The accommodation is less than adequate
Insufficient water
Too much heat
Not enough cover.

I want my rent money back.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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