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Reply #60 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 3:27pm
 
The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
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Reply #61 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 4:01pm
 
Gee Philly is really trying to deny the obvious truth with some dodgy Lefty/Greeny biased propaganda.
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Reply #62 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 4:09pm
 
undergrowth or undergrown. not grown up. juliar plays there.
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Reply #63 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 4:36pm
 
juliar wrote on Apr 15th, 2020 at 4:01pm:
Gee Philly is really trying to deny the obvious truth with some dodgy Lefty/Greeny biased propaganda.


Care to show us where you provided anything to support your bullshit ya dickhead....You are a sewerage pipe mate....Hollow and full of crap!!!

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Reply #64 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 5:31pm
 
Gosh, while the bush fires raged there were many authentic sources full of accurate true explanations of how the sick Greenies caused the bush fires to be so ferocious because the stupid idiots stopped the clearing of dangerous undergrowth.

Just trying to deny the obvious TRUTH does not change it one little bit and is rather pointless.

Naturally there are lots of lying Greeny propaganda floating around which is just fabricated rubbish.
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Reply #65 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 5:56pm
 
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Reply #66 - Apr 15th, 2020 at 10:20pm
 
The Chimp waste of space rushes in with the standard Lefty Greeny response to try to deny and lie when faced with the TRUTH. But he posts such inarticulate silly childish gibberish one wouldn't know what he is trying to do. Classic Greeny with a muddled mind.  One feels sorry for the pour sole.

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The strange individuals that "vote" for the deeply shamed evil Greenies who set fire to Australia and burnt it to the ground.

Now discover how the treacherous Greenies planned the bushfires:-


Green terrorists caused the Australian bushfires
By Adam Piggott -January 5, 2020

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Let me just put it out on the record so that it is clear and done and dusted. Climate change did not cause these bushfires. What caused these bushfires is three decades of government failure to stand up to environmental terrorists. The greenies are the ones that caused these fires. The same greenies that hounded governments to stop back burning in state forests. The same greenies that petitioned weak governments to ban cattle grazing in state forests and high alpine pastures. The same greenies that ceaselessly hounded governments to lock up more areas as state forest and national parks and then agitated to change the laws so that over time the Australian people have been effectively locked out of our own bush land.

Go into any national park in Australia and it will be via a sealed road that ends at a nice touristy spot where you can snap photos and buy some postcards and a stuffed koala. But go into the park itself? Drive your 4WD in there? Are you mad? You can’t anyway, because they either bulldozed all the access roads or stopped maintaining them so that they may as well have been bulldozed. You see, the greens want the Australian landscape to revert back to its natural form, before us horrible Europeans arrived to stuff everything up.

Let me tell you about the natural form of unmanaged forests and open country in Australia. It burns, all of it. There are many native plant species in Australia that are only able to germinate if the seeds have been burnt to a crisp. The whole lot is designed to burn. So if you leave it to go back to what it was 50,000 years ago, then you get really big bushfires. Because of all the fuel. It’s the fuel load, you morons.

Every time some green lunatic chains himself to a tree, what he’s doing is providing more fuel for the fire. Save the trees translates into, let’s burn down everyone’s houses. What we’re seeing is the end point of this in action. What should happen from this point on, is that every self-identifying greenie or environmentalist should be run out of these towns strapped to railroad spikes while covered in the very smelly corpses of dead koalas that were fried to a crisp.

You can’t blame this on climate change, not only because it’s not a thing. If it were climate change that caused this, then why aren’t there massive fires in Saudi Arabia? I mean, it gets really quite hot there, or so I’m told. Oh, that’s right; there’s no fuel load in that part of the world because the last known tree was eaten by a starving camel.

The Australian fires have been directly caused by environmental terrorists. And the only way that we will be able to adequately protect our properties and even lives in the future will be by directly appropriating the blame where it belongs. Greenpeace, The Wilderness Society, and every other environmental organisation need to immediately be classified as terrorist groups and treated as such. They are a clear and present danger to the Australian people, and I’ll be buggered if they’re going to scurry out of this one by bleating climate change as the culprit.

But they’re trying, as we speak they are trying. The ABC has been caught out attempting to remove articles from it’s website that covered protesters agitating to stop fuel reduction burns only a few months ago in the very same areas that are now going up in smoke. The media and the government, and most certainly Greta sockpuppet, are not on our side. I couldn’t give two runs what they think about Australia. It’s one thing to have your country burn down due to lunatic greenie environmental laws and regulations, but it’s another thing entirely when those same terrorists attempt to use this to push the climate change hoax. Talk about adding insult to injury.

So now you’re all straight on the topic. And why don’t you learn from our negative experience? Begin dealing with greens in the way that they deserve and in the only way that gets through to them.

https://www.xyz.net.au/green-terrorists-caused-the-australian-bushfires/
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Reply #67 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 1:17am
 
Still waiting for urgent relief for people burnt out of house and home, considering that the donated millions are tied up in various consolidated revenue strands .... and still working on my thing about the need for an over-arching disaster response organisation for Scotty.

In all this corona virus stuff, many things are forgotten....

Think I'll forward it to Albo and Shortie as well... just to stir the pot - I've never been known for my willingness to toe the line.....
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Reply #68 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 1:20am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Apr 14th, 2020 at 7:42pm:
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.. or as the trolls say:-  Our Bite will make them free.... Ahr Bite Macht Vrei!!
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Reply #69 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 5:28am
 
Liberal Labor undergrowth.
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Reply #70 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 8:20am
 
I can't remember, was it $30 million that Pink donated to Celeste Barbar's Online Scam?

That's a lot of money.
Will it all be refunded to Pink, if she got Corona Virus?

I wonder if it is ALL still there locked away?
Or are the Australians picking away and spending it on things other than what it was intended for?

I don't think all the homes lost in the Fires amount to more than $30 million.

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Reply #71 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 8:56am
 
The warped Greenies like Chimera are celebrating the destruction wrought by the bushfires they planned.

Onwards the UN One World Socialist "Govt" in a Sustainable World as defined in the UN AGENDA 2030.

The foreign funded and controlled evil Greenies are trying to implement the UN AGENDA 2030 here in Australia. And burning bad humans out of the native bush land and returning it to the animals and birds is one of their goals.
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Reply #72 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 9:42am
 
Liberal Labor councils.

A Guide to Defamation Laws in Australia

Defamation is an act of falsely publishing something that harms the reputation of an identifiable person without a legal excuse.

Civil Offence
The Defamation Act 2005 (NSW),

Publication: oral, written, or digital communication
Identification: directly or indirectly identifying the allegedly defamed person

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Under section 529(3) of the Crimes Act 1900 (NSW),

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Reply #73 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 10:30am
 
The Chimp waste of space rushes in with the standard Lefty Greeny response to try to deny and lie when faced with the TRUTH. But he posts such inarticulate silly childish gibberish one wouldn't know what he is trying to do. Classic Greeny with a muddled mind.  One feels sorry for the pour sole.

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The strange individuals that "vote" for the deeply shamed evil Greenies who set fire to Australia and burnt it to the ground.

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The Greenies' idea is that if there are big bush fires then they can claim their Climate Change SCAM caused the bush fires.
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Reply #74 - Apr 16th, 2020 at 11:00am
 
The TRUTH shall prevail.


The Greens – Not Climate Change – Are to Blame for Bush Fires
By Miranda Devine – 12th November 2019.

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Even a hippy in Nimbin knows that greenies are to blame for the power and intensity of NSW’s latest bout of tragic bushfires.

“The Greens have to cop it on the head — they have been obsessed with no fires and no burning,” Michael Balderstone told The Australian as bushfires engulfed the north coast.

Wiser words have never been spoken in that Northern Rivers town.

Yet Greens leader Richard Di Natale and Melbourne MP Adam Bandt still insist that the culprit is climate change.

It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. They oppose any sensible land management that is proven to reduce the severity of routine regular summer bushfires.

And when the inevitable happens they blame climate change Their aim is to scare people into buying their climate “emergency” hyperbole so that government are under pressure to enact suicidal policies which drive electricity prices through the roof.

But it is not climate change which turns fires into unstoppable lethal infernos. It is green ideology which blocks removal of fuel loads in national parks and prevents landholders from clearing fire hazards around their homes. Every bushfire inquiry since the 1939 Stretton Royal Commission has urged the use of systematic controlled burning, or “prescribed burning”, to burn off flammable ground cover in cooler months, so it does not fuel summer bushfires.

The forecasts are for “extreme” weather and strong winds but that should not guarantee an inferno. As pre-eminent bushfire researcher Phil Cheney says, a regime of prescribed burning will reduce the intensity of any fire no matter what the weather. It slows it down and reduces the spread, giving firefighters a chance to control it. But leaving fuel loads to build up is a sure-fire recipe for an unstoppable blaze that will incinerate every living thing.

Greenies also have infiltrated local councils where they enact laws to stop private landholders from clearing fire hazards from their own land.

Who could forget Victorian Liam Sheahan, whose hilltop house at Reedy Creek was the only one still standing in a two-kilometre radius after the 2009 fires. Five years earlier he had been fined $50,000 by Mitchell Shire Council for removing trees around his house to protect it from fire. Yet his prudent pruning saved his house.Remember when Transgrid was fined $500,000 in 2001 by the NSW government for “environmental vandalism” after it bulldozed a 60-metre wide firebreak under its high-voltage lines in the Snowy Mountains?

Two years later, that firebreak was the only thing that saved workers and kangaroos when a disastrous blaze swept through the mountains.

All this government intervention, combined with record spending in recent years on state of the art firefighting equipment, has reduced people who live in rural and peri-urban areas to a state of learned helplessness.

They no longer take responsibility for the protection of their property and their own safety because they are loath to make an impact on the environment in which they choose to live.

Now Di Natale and Bandt despicably are capitalising on the suffering of bushfire victims to score political points while GetUp has gone so far as to fundraise off the back of people’s painThey don’t see their exploitation of tragedy as immoral because they’ve justified it as being for the greater good which, in their fevered brains, means they’re heroically “saving the planet”.

They never explain how destroying the coal industry or forcing us into electric cars will prevent bushfires but logic is not a greenie strong suit.

The fact is that the Greens are Marxist ideologues who whip up irrational fear of climate change in order to achieve their real aim which is to radically transform the economy into their preferred utopian model, despite ample historic evidence of the misery that will ensue.Realising that the public is wise to their tricks, they now pretend they have supported hazard reduction burning all along, despite ample evidence to the contrary.

With the assistance of bushfire brigade volunteers and scientific experts, I have recorded obstructive green efforts since the cataclysmic 1994 Sydney bushfires which killed four people, and fuel loads are higher today than they were then, says Cheney.

You can look at submissions opposing prescribed burning from multiple green groups to the NSW parliamentary inquiry into the 2001-02 bushfires.

“Inappropriate fire hazard regimes can damage biodiversity leading to the loss of native species, communities and ecosystems,” said WWF Australia, for example.In 2003, after bushfires spread to Canberra from overgrown national parks, killing four people, the NSW Nature Conservation Council condemned calls for increased prescribed burning as “futile” and a “knee-jerk reaction”.

In 2009, the NSW Greens website declared it was a “common misconception that responsible fire management always involves burning or clearing to reduce moderate and high fuel loads”.

Read on to discover the shocking TRUTH about the bush fires

https://volunteerfirefighters.org.au/the-greens-not-climate-change-are-to-blame-...
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