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Reply #405 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 9:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 29th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 29th, 2021 at 8:22am:
Just another hypothesis. Not evidence.



God you're a halfwit -
no one can get first hand evidence because the Chinese CCP
didn't allow any inspections over 1 year ago.
The evidence is gone -
the scientists could have been locked up or killed.
We'll never know for sure unless one of scientists could
have escaped and then gives evidence to the United Nations assembly.


Exactly.

That's all we've been trying to say.

You believe a certain hypothesis because it comforts you.  The idea this was man-made means that there is someone to blame and for some, they think that justifies their racism in this case.  You've seen it all over the forums here and in the real world, we don't need to talk about that here. 

BUt the problem is, as you've said, there is no evidence to confirm it.

Not yet anyway.

I think we need to prepare for both of the leading theories to be real.  Either it came from the wet markets meaning there needs to be reform in these areas, or it came from a Lab in which case more scrutiny around that sort of research, safety standards etc.

Until we know the truth, we need to think that all the theories are true, within reason of course, so we can take whatever measures possible to prevent this from happening again.
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Reply #406 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 9:30am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 9:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 29th, 2021 at 8:59am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 29th, 2021 at 8:22am:
Just another hypothesis. Not evidence.



God you're a halfwit -
no one can get first hand evidence because the Chinese CCP
didn't allow any inspections over 1 year ago.
The evidence is gone -
the scientists could have been locked up or killed.
We'll never know for sure unless one of scientists could
have escaped and then gives evidence to the United Nations assembly.


Exactly.

That's all we've been trying to say.

You believe a certain hypothesis because it comforts you.  The idea this was man-made means that there is someone to blame and for some, they think that justifies their racism in this case.  You've seen it all over the forums here and in the real world, we don't need to talk about that here. 

BUt the problem is, as you've said, there is no evidence to confirm it.

Not yet anyway.

I think we need to prepare for both of the leading theories to be real.  Either it came from the wet markets meaning there needs to be reform in these areas, or it came from a Lab in which case more scrutiny around that sort of research, safety standards etc.

Until we know the truth, we need to think that all the theories are true, within reason of course, so we can take whatever measures possible to prevent this from happening again.



Anyone working on bio weapons should be hanged under
the principles of the Nuremberg trials -
crimes against humanity.
2,805,332 dead
https://coronaboard.com/

It won't happen as the world is a grossly unjust place.
Insane, psychopath scientists will continue to make bio weapons.
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Reply #407 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 10:56am
 
So now you've leapt from, escaped a lab, to being a bioweapon?

This is why evidence is important.
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Reply #408 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 2:03pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 10:56am:
So now you've leapt from, escaped a lab, to being a bioweapon?

This is why evidence is important.



We do know some things:

access to the Wuhan lab was denied and is still denied.
There is only one conclusion -
China has something to hide.


The same can be said of other research places around the world such as Fort Detrick in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Detrick

The same for all the Russian, British, French and
maybe even Australian places.
We have one in Geelong.

Who knows what those crazy scientists are doing?
It's not as though you can go there and find out.
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Reply #409 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 4:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Who knows what those crazy scientists are doing?
It's not as though you can go there and find out.




Because otherwise this stuff gets out and infects people.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #410 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 4:31pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 4:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Who knows what those crazy scientists are doing?
It's not as though you can go there and find out.


Because otherwise this stuff gets out and infects people.



What mischief are they getting up to?
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Reply #411 - Mar 30th, 2021 at 8:01pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 4:31pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 4:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Who knows what those crazy scientists are doing?
It's not as though you can go there and find out.


Because otherwise this stuff gets out and infects people.



What mischief are they getting up to?



Research into animal disease in Geelong
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #412 - Mar 31st, 2021 at 10:59am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 2:03pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 30th, 2021 at 10:56am:
So now you've leapt from, escaped a lab, to being a bioweapon?

This is why evidence is important.



We do know some things:

access to the Wuhan lab was denied and is still denied.
There is only one conclusion -
China has something to hide.


So let's say that is the case, you're jumping to bioweapons research as if you "know" that's what was happening.

And you can't even say for sure that they have something to hide but if they did, perhaps it's how far behind in medical research they are, sort of like now North Korea lie all the time about the scientific breakthroughs etc.

You might believe something about China, but what ever it is you believe, it's not based on evidence.
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Reply #413 - Apr 3rd, 2021 at 2:50pm
 
The bastards -
the whole lot of them should be hanged:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-if-the-former-cdc-director-is-right...

April 2, 2021 at 9:43 a.m

Opinion: What if the former CDC director is right about the Wuhan labs?



Then, on Tuesday, World Health Organization Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus rebuked the findings of the WHO’s own joint study with Chinese scientists into the origins and explicitly called for more investigation into the lab-accident theory. The United States and 13 other countries also issued a joint statement calling for a “transparent and independent analysis and evaluation, free from interference and undue influence.”

Richard H. Ebright, a Rutgers University microbiologist and biosafety expert, told me we must begin a difficult, uncomfortable conversation about this investigation’s scope and the vast implications if the theory is true. He said the entire genre of research Redfield was referring to, known as
gain-of-function research

(in which viruses are captured from the wild and developed in lab settings to make them more dangerous), needs to be thoroughly reexamined.

“The very fact that it could have been of laboratory origin, even if that cannot be substantiated, means we need to understand that there is risk in this research that may have triggered the current pandemic and surely could trigger a future pandemic,” he said.
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Reply #414 - Apr 3rd, 2021 at 2:53pm
 
More wishing and wanting without any evidence.
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Reply #415 - Apr 6th, 2021 at 9:08am
 
‘Overwhelming circumstantial evidence'
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The theory the virus came from a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology was deemed to be unlikely by the report.

Mr Metzl told Sky News the WHO did not conduct this investigation, but it was a “joint study of an independent advisory committee” to the World Health Organisation and their “Chinese counterparts”.

He said the investigation was not “capable of examining all the hypotheses” and therefore it cannot be viewed as authoritative.

“The core point is that any examination of the origins of the pandemic needs to thoroughly examine all of the possible origin hypotheses,” Mr Metzl said.

“It cannot be credible to say we’re only going to look at zoonotic jump and cold chain, and we won’t even lift a finger to examine the lab leak hypothesis.

“This entire joint team study, in my view, is not credible or valid because they examined some hypotheses and not others, and then had the temerity to rank the likelihood of the different hypotheses”.

Mr Metzl said the circumstantial evidence to support the lab leak theory is “overwhelming” including how the horseshoe bat – which was identified as the genetic source of the SARS-CoV-2 virus – lives in southern China.

“Wuhan is well beyond their range, Wuhan doesn’t have horseshoe bats,” he said.

“What Wuhan does have is China’s only level-four virology institute with the world’s largest collection of bat coronaviruses.

“I can’t say for sure that SARS-CoV-2 began with an accidental lab leak, but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.

“On top of that from day one, China began a massive coverup that involved destroying samples, hiding data bases and other records, and imprisoning journalists.”
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Reply #416 - Apr 6th, 2021 at 10:15am
 
So no actual evidence, got it.
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Reply #417 - Apr 19th, 2021 at 6:00pm
 
Gravitas: Wuhan virus made in lab?

Chinese virologist has 'proof'

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Reply #418 - May 8th, 2021 at 4:55pm
 
Leaked Chinese document reveals a sinister plan to ‘unleash’ coronaviruses

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/leaked-chinese-document-reveals-a-sini...


A leaked 2015 government paper has revealed a discussion by top Chinese scientists who said a virus could be “unleashed in way never seen before”.


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A document written by Chinese scientists and Chinese public health officials in 2015 discussed the weaponisation of SARS coronavirus, reveals the Weekend Australian.

Titled The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons, the paper predicted that World War Three would be fought with biological weapons.

Released five years before the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, it describes SARS coronaviruses as a “new era of genetic weapons” that can be “artificially manipulated into an emerging human ­disease virus, then weaponised and unleashed in a way never seen before”.

Peter Jennings, the executive director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI), told news.com.au that the document is as close to a “smoking gun” as we’ve got.

“I think this is significant because it clearly shows that Chinese scientists were thinking about military application for different strains of the coronavirus and thinking about how it could be deployed,” said Mr Jennings.

“It begins to firm up the possibility that what we have here is the accidental release of a pathogen for military use,” added Mr Jennings.

He also said that the document may explain why China has been so reluctant for outside investigations into the origins of COVID-19.

“If this was a case of transmission from a wet market it would be in China’s interest to co-operate … we’ve had the opposite of that.”
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Reply #419 - May 9th, 2021 at 10:52am
 
We need also to ask why the Western media are ignoring this possibility.
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