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Reply #1905 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:45pm
 

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:44pm:
You have not got a High School Certificate.

Your “Six years of tertiary education” is a series of low level certificate courses for technicians.

Just go and read this thread—you posted any old rubbish if you thought it supported your bias! No thinking involved!



ahahahahahahahahahahah!


Thanks for the laugh, uneducated Monk.

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Reply #1906 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:52pm
 
Post your High school certificate.

If you have ‘“lost” it, contact the Vic Education dept for a copy. I officially changed my christian names and later asked Education SA for corrected Leaving and Leaving Honors certificates. They sent them. I might ask them for fresh copies.

We can have a time we post our redacted HS certificates. Well, when I post mine, you will have problems won’t you? {Smirk}
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Reply #1907 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:53pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:52pm:
Post your High school certificate.

If you have ‘“lost” it, contact the Vic Education dept for a copy. I officially changed my christian names and later asked Education SA for corrected Leaving and Leaving Honors certificates. They sent them. I might ask them for fresh copies.

We can have a time we post our redacted HS certificates. Well, when I post mine, you will have problems won’t you? {Smirk}



Monk is trying to dox me.     Shocked
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Reply #1908 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:54pm
 
. . .redacted. . .


The bitch is protesting too much, methinks.
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Reply #1909 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:57pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 5:54pm:
. . .redacted. . .


The bitch is protesting too much, methinks.



Monk,
just look at some of the threads I start -
here on Science:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1736078174/45#45

Can't you tell that I'm an intelligent man?   Roll Eyes



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Reply #1910 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:06pm
 
OK, I have contacted Dept Edu of SA to get my 3rd, 4th and 5th year certificates sent to me.

You “doing the same” I suppose? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
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Reply #1911 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:07pm
 
Your thread is just YouTubes. No brains required—you just admitted you have no education!
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Reply #1912 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
OK, I have contacted Dept Edu of SA to get my 3rd, 4th and 5th year certificates sent to me.

You “doing the same” I suppose? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!



No - I'm interested in here and now.

Will the Covid 19 culprits ever be brought to justice?


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Reply #1913 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:12pm
 
{Sigh}

That assumes there are culprits.

You are NOT thinking critically, are you? You are just letting your inadequacies and biases write your posts. In doing that you show you have absolutely no real science education.
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Reply #1914 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:12pm:
{Sigh}

That assumes there are culprits.

You are NOT thinking critically, are you? You are just letting your inadequacies and biases write your posts. In doing that you show you have absolutely no real science education.



Someone has to speak for all the dead and maimed.

That would never be you.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1915 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:14pm
 
“No”

I guess they do not issue certificates for 2nd year High School?

You are NOT building a case for tertiary education. You are PROVING you are an uneducated numpty.
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Reply #1916 - Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:13pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:12pm:
{Sigh}

That assumes there are culprits.

You are NOT thinking critically, are you? You are just letting your inadequacies and biases write your posts. In doing that you show you have absolutely no real science education.



Someone has to speak for all the dead and maimed.

That would never be you.   Roll Eyes


More of your unfounded bias re the cause of covid19. IF there were culprits I would be on their case in ways way beyond posts on a failing bulletin board!
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Reply #1917 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 12:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:13pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2025 at 6:12pm:
{Sigh}

That assumes there are culprits.

You are NOT thinking critically, are you? You are just letting your inadequacies and biases write your posts. In doing that you show you have absolutely no real science education.



Someone has to speak for all the dead and maimed.

That would never be you.   Roll Eyes


More of your unfounded bias re the cause of covid19. IF there were culprits I would be on their case in ways way beyond posts on a failing bulletin board!



No - you'll forever believe that it came from animals -

No amount of evidence will sway you.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1918 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 1:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2025 at 12:15pm:
No - you'll forever believe that it came from animals -

No amount of evidence will sway you.   Roll Eyes


I can't speak for anyone else, but here's a rough breakdown of the sort of evidence I'd need to convince me that it was an accident, or deliberate, lab leak from somewhere doing gain of function reserach.

Documented lab research, internal records, emails, or databases from Wuhan or elsewhere showing they were actively engineering, manipulating, or experimenting on coronaviruses with genetic features matching SARS-CoV-2. Not just "similar," but directly traceable, especially things like the furin cleavage site.

Lab staff illness, verified, pre-outbreak cases of COVID-like symptoms in researchers, ideally confirmed with early SARS-CoV-2 genomic sequences. Not just rumour, not just someone "felt sick", confirmed and matched to the virus.

Recovered viral sequences, from lab databases (including those mysteriously taken offline in 2019) showing viral constructs that were precursors to SARS-CoV-2. If they were working on it, show the receipts.

Genetic fingerprints, evidence in the virus' genome that points to artificial construction: restriction sites, codon optimisation, or synthetic biology methods used in known lab processes. Not just "weird-looking", traceable to known lab methods.

Intelligence leaks, credible whistleblower accounts or intercepted data pointing to a leak, a cover-up, or even early knowledge of the outbreak before it was public.

No natural host, and I mean none, after a thorough global search. No bat, pangolin, raccoon dog or anything else found carrying a near-identical virus, despite years of searching and tens of thousands of samples.

A pattern of deliberate suppression, data deletion, silencing scientists, deleting lab records, and aggressive CCP censorship around exactly the right time, not "proof" alone, but if it lines up with the rest, it matters.

That's what I'd need to see, a converging body of evidence that connects dots with more than suspicion. Not just "Wuhan has a lab" or "the virus looks odd", those are questions, not answers.

With one exception, all we have regarding the above is circumstantial evidence, unanswered questions and suspicious behaviour.

That exception is the blatant cover-up from China.  But alone, it's not enough.

Now, since I've laid that out plainly, your turn.

What would it actually take for you to accept that COVID may have jumped from animals to humans? What standard of evidence are you applying, or is this line you keep running about "nothing would ever convince the other side" just projection dressed up as insight?

So I'm asking plainly, what would you consider credible, and are you holding that standard consistently?
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Reply #1919 - Aug 7th, 2025 at 4:45pm
 
Kanga,
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What would it actually take for you to accept that COVID may have jumped from animals to humans? What standard of evidence are you applying, or is this line you keep running about "nothing would ever convince the other side" just projection dressed up as insight?

So I'm asking plainly, what would you consider credible, and are you holding that standard consistently?


We would need to find out about every scientist at Wuhan -
move them and their families out of China to say Holland  * -
and allow them to appear in an independent inquiry.

If they would testify that they were working on a bio weapon that escaped then
that would be enough for me.

However -
when Australia asked for a proper independent inquiry
China put sanctions on us that cost us $billions in trade.

China has hidden the truth because they are guilty.

*
( why get them and their families out of China? -
because there is no way they can tell the truth when in China -
they would be "disappeared" along with their families. )

By the way - people like Fauci need to be part of it.
The charge is that he sent money and forbidden gene splicing technology to Wuhan
which he knew could be used to make a bio weapon.
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