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Re: No Means No
Reply #75 - Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 9:02pm

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 8:55pm:

AiA wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 10:45pm:

"No means no?" I am not so sure. .

No means “not this second.”

Never means “no, not ever.”

Taking "no" for an answer means losing the confidence to ask again and again.

I am pretty sure no means no mate....Unless you are a stalker who cannot take no for an answer....Confidence comes when you are rejected and accepting that as a reason to move on....Claiming no never means no, not ever shows you have no respect for woman and should be avoided!!!

Angry

Have a read of this and give me your thoughts.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pop-psych/201408/just-say-no-and-be-sure...

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Re: No Means No
Reply #77 - Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 9:42pm

Gordon wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 9:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 8:55pm:

AiA wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 10:45pm:

"No means no?" I am not so sure. .

No means “not this second.”

Never means “no, not ever.”

Taking "no" for an answer means losing the confidence to ask again and again.

I am pretty sure no means no mate....Unless you are a stalker who cannot take no for an answer....Confidence comes when you are rejected and accepting that as a reason to move on....Claiming no never means no, not ever shows you have no respect for woman and should be avoided!!!

Angry

Have a read of this and give me your thoughts.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pop-psych/201408/just-say-no-and-be-sure...

The statistics show that when most woman say no they mean no although a test sample from the same demographic (610 undergraduate college women from Texas) is hardly a diverse group to make any concrete conclusions....How do you know when a woman says no but really means yes....Do you keep going until she calls rape and then argue she was leading you on....Why do some men believe that once a woman is in their grasp they are yours to take???

Huh

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25095 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: No Means No Reply #78 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 1:12am Sophia wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 4:50pm: Sorry, I deleted what I wrote. Just the fact that for some, no, means maybe, or, no, means a challenge to change the person's mind. I went through that phase in my late teens, early twenties. Sometimes our minds are wired with irresponsibility.
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Re: No Means No
Reply #79 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 5:42am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 8:55pm:

AiA wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 10:45pm:

"No means no?" I am not so sure. .

No means “not this second.”

Never means “no, not ever.”

Taking "no" for an answer means losing the confidence to ask again and again.

I am pretty sure no means no mate....Unless you are a stalker who cannot take no for an answer....Confidence comes when you are rejected and accepting that as a reason to move on....Claiming no never means no, not ever shows you have no respect for woman and should be avoided!!!

Angry

You seemingly have no experience in sales, business, dating or anything else ...

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Re: No Means No
Reply #80 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 6:03am

AiA wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 5:42am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 8:55pm:

AiA wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 10:45pm:

"No means no?" I am not so sure. .

No means “not this second.”

Never means “no, not ever.”

Taking "no" for an answer means losing the confidence to ask again and again.

I am pretty sure no means no mate....Unless you are a stalker who cannot take no for an answer....Confidence comes when you are rejected and accepting that as a reason to move on....Claiming no never means no, not ever shows you have no respect for woman and should be avoided!!!

Angry

You seemingly have no experience in sales, business, dating or anything else ...

Highly interesting that you would equate dating with sales.

A more cynical person would note the predatory undercurrent.

I've never felt predatory about getting to know another human being on a personal level.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36239 Gender:	Re: No Means No Reply #81 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 6:14am And may i just say, the "argument" put forward in the OP sounds exactly like something Donald Trump would say. Just think about that.
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Reply #82 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 6:32am

AiA wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 5:42am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2020 at 8:55pm:

AiA wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 10:45pm:

"No means no?" I am not so sure. .

No means “not this second.”

Never means “no, not ever.”

Taking "no" for an answer means losing the confidence to ask again and again.

I am pretty sure no means no mate....Unless you are a stalker who cannot take no for an answer....Confidence comes when you are rejected and accepting that as a reason to move on....Claiming no never means no, not ever shows you have no respect for woman and should be avoided!!!

Angry

You seemingly have no experience in sales, business, dating or anything else ...

I was one of the first to comment in your thread and could see where it was likely to head. Tried to steer it to neutral territory with my ad-agency comment

didn't work

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Re: No Means No
Reply #83 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 6:40am

There is never a time when no means never, or there wouldn’t be the word never.
This post isn’t about sex, tho. It’s about confidently understanding the language of hypocrites.
If someone says no to me now, I ask them if they mean never. If they refuse to answer, they are literally cut off forever.
And I don’t mean sex. No when it comes to sex or dating, to me, literally means go away forever because who has time for that nonsense?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36239 Gender:	Re: No Means No Reply #84 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:02am You say it's not about sex yet you've persistently directly referred to sex or dating numerous times in this thread. Were there any references to business? If so, i missed them.
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Reply #85 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:05am

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:02am:

You say it's not about sex yet you've persistently directly referred to sex or dating numerous times in this thread.

Were there any references to business? If so, i missed them.

Re-read my OP. There was no sexual reference. Would you like to talk business? I was told by a potential client "no" 119 times before I got his business.

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Reply #86 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:09am

AiA wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:05am:

mothra wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:02am:

You say it's not about sex yet you've persistently directly referred to sex or dating numerous times in this thread.

Were there any references to business? If so, i missed them.

Re-read my OP. There was no sexual reference. Would you like to talk business? I was told by a potential client "no" 119 times before I got his business.

Clearly, my post was referring to you many comments in this thread, not solely your OP.

Although i maintain that OP sounds like Trump wrote it. Just saying.

And, if memory serves, pretty much every follow up comment by you in this thread has been about sex and dating.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13182 Armidale Gender:	Re: No Means No Reply #87 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:56am Kim Jong Un says 'yes' more often and means no , forever.
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36239 Gender:	Re: No Means No Reply #88 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 8:00am chimera wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 7:56am: Kim Jong Un says 'yes' more often and means no , forever. You would too, with that haircut.
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Re: No Means No
Reply #89 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 8:07am

AiA wrote on Feb 4^th, 2020 at 6:40am:

There is never a time when no means never, or there wouldn’t be the word never.
This post isn’t about sex, tho. It’s about confidently understanding the language of hypocrites.
If someone says no to me now, I ask them if they mean never. If they refuse to answer, they are literally cut off forever.
And I don’t mean sex. No when it comes to sex or dating, to me, literally means go away forever because who has time for that nonsense?

It appears like you don't accept rejection and are only interested in someone when they are of use to you....I have been rejected by woman and visa versa but still remained good friends with most of them....You sound like a self centred narcissist who believes their own self worth Trump's the desires and wishes of those you seek to possess and control....Your lack of respect for woman is evident in the fact you are only interested in the opposite sex when you get something you want....Woman should keep away from creeps like you IMO???

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