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a fraud    
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not a fraud    
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delusional    
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a scheming lowlife running a scam    
  3 (37.5%)
Aboriginal    
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White    
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Other    
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pure as the driven snow    
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Reply #645 - Jun 15th, 2020 at 7:29pm
 
Let him have his feeling of moral superiority. His self-image depends on it.
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https://www.smh.com.au/national/secrets-of-the-stones-20030313-gdgf3f.html
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Reply #648 - Jun 15th, 2020 at 10:09pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 9:45pm:


You do know that bender dwellings have been used forever. I believe the oldest remains found in Ireland is about 10,000 years old although I could be off on that. Hunter Gatherers have probably been building them since before Australia was populated and the technique was probably brought here with them.
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Reply #649 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 5:33am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 9:45pm:


Probably constructed by the race tgat was here before the 2nd AUSTRALIANS before the abboscwiped them from the face of the earth.

I seriously doubt tgat our abbos could muster the energy to consider the possibility of constructing anything, let alone carry some rocks to make a circle.
It don't look all tgat old either, quite possibly recently constructed to get some sort of recognition.

As for aquaculture, I call bull shite.
Simply nature taking it's course.

But, as you may not have read my original post.
I was asking for evidence of a "Town", not a pile of insignificant rocks.

Where are these towns bwyannnnnnnnnnn?
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Reply #650 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 6:54am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 1:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 11:59am:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 14th, 2020 at 9:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2020 at 12:06pm:


Very handy........


Move over Machu Picchu


In what way, Hammer?  We have Indigenous Australian dwellings that predate Machu Picchu by a wide margin being blown up by mining companies.  Don't see that happening in Peru, now do we?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Machu Picchu was abandoned before the arrival of the Conquistadores. 

Indigenous Australians inhabited a large, wide continent they created dwellings of different types to suit the situation of where they were living.  In Tasmania, they built huts.  In Victoria, they built towns.  In the Kimberly they used caves.   Different places, different styles of dwellings.  Why is that so hard for Racists to accept?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Dwellings?  Grin Comparing that to Machu Pichu? Roll Eyes And your statement about it being abandoned prior to the arrival of the Conquistadors is bullshyte.

Then you're re-rant bs about Aboriginals building towns in Vic ............. more BS.

Where are the photos of the remnants or archeological digs proving it?

And a few lines of rocks on the ground like a Bora ring don't cut it.

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Generally, all historians agree when said that Machu Picchu was used as housing for the Inca aristocracy after the Spanish conquest of in 1532


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After Tupac Amaru, the last rebel Inca, was captured, Machu Picchu was abandoned as there was no reason to stay there.


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Reply #651 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 7:25am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 5:06pm:
cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 4:32pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 2:32pm:
Perhaps because Tasmanian Indigenous Australians were wiped out, Cods?

The huts aren't mentioned 'cause to do so would betray the myth that the White settlers created to justify their destruction of Indigenous Australian culture.


oh absolutely  and you wont be happy till all the whites are wiped out  SmileyI get that..


Where have I ever expressed that opinion, Cods?


AN OBSERVATION  you have nothing good to say about white people..

I don't want to see anyone wiped out.  I just want to see some acknowledgement that Indigenous Australians inhabited this continent in many different and varied ways.   Some were nomadic, some were't.  Some lived settled lifestyles, some didn't.  Simples, really.   Reality.  Roll Eyes


no you are making claims that are simply not true...and when people demand facts  you bring on the yawn or the insults...it works for you but no one else..

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as for the huts.... I am sure the Tassy aboriginal would not have been the only one to build such amazing monuments..I mean didnt you say they also built some kind sheds or early silos to keep all that wheat they grew in?....


They built towns in Victoria.  Pascoe maintains they built structures for the storage of food.

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for a group who didnt invent the wheel     they did amazing 
 

no one is saying they didnt? what we are saying is  stop making things up because what you are doing is... actually sending them backwards....
like if they did all that 200 years ago why the hell are they still not doing it..



The Aztecs didn't invent the wheel.  The Incas invented the wheel but didn't use it.  Perhaps it was because they didn't have heavy draught animals?  Who knows but nobody disputes what they did achieve.  Machu Picchu had over 1.5 million tourists visit it last year. 

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when you think about it look how much they could have taught all those ignorant thieves and vagabonds that ended up in Tassy....what a missed opportunity...


Except those "ignorant thieves and vagabonds" were intent on wiping them out, they weren't interested in learning anything.  Funny that, Cods.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



no they werent... gees   you sure like re writing history.

check Port Arthurs history why dont you.....


you have no idea what harm sanctimonious white men like you and pascoe do to the aboriginal community with giving them credit where it isnt due...

no one has ever claimed whitey didnt make any mistakes 200 bloody years ago....through ignorance for the most part... I think whitey has come a long way since those days,,

however our aboriginal chums  thanks to people like you have in fact lost skills you claim they once had.

like building and farming.....we dont see it today do we???>.. Angry Angry
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Reply #652 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:29pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 7:25am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 5:06pm:
cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 4:32pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15th, 2020 at 2:32pm:
Perhaps because Tasmanian Indigenous Australians were wiped out, Cods?

The huts aren't mentioned 'cause to do so would betray the myth that the White settlers created to justify their destruction of Indigenous Australian culture.


oh absolutely  and you wont be happy till all the whites are wiped out  SmileyI get that..


Where have I ever expressed that opinion, Cods?


AN OBSERVATION  you have nothing good to say about white people..


I'll accept that as an apology.

Perhaps I don't say anything nice about them because there is little nice to say about them?   Generally, most White people are self-satisfied WOFTAMs, Cods.  Roll Eyes

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I don't want to see anyone wiped out.  I just want to see some acknowledgement that Indigenous Australians inhabited this continent in many different and varied ways.   Some were nomadic, some were't.  Some lived settled lifestyles, some didn't.  Simples, really.   Reality.  Roll Eyes


no you are making claims that are simply not true...and when people demand facts  you bring on the yawn or the insults...it works for you but no one else..


They are not true, prove they are not true, Cods.  Can you perform that service?  I speak the unpalatable truth.  If you believe I am lying you have to prove it is a lie.  Roll Eyes

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as for the huts.... I am sure the Tassy aboriginal would not have been the only one to build such amazing monuments..I mean didnt you say they also built some kind sheds or early silos to keep all that wheat they grew in?....


They built towns in Victoria.  Pascoe maintains they built structures for the storage of food.

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for a group who didnt invent the wheel     they did amazing 
 

no one is saying they didnt? what we are saying is  stop making things up because what you are doing is... actually sending them backwards....
like if they did all that 200 years ago why the hell are they still not doing it..


If I am lying, prove I am lying, Cods.  Unless you demonstrate some knowledge greater that mine, you're just wasting electrons.  Roll Eyes
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The Aztecs didn't invent the wheel.  The Incas invented the wheel but didn't use it.  Perhaps it was because they didn't have heavy draught animals?  Who knows but nobody disputes what they did achieve.  Machu Picchu had over 1.5 million tourists visit it last year. 


when you think about it look how much they could have taught all those ignorant thieves and vagabonds that ended up in Tassy....what a missed opportunity...

Except those "ignorant thieves and vagabonds" were intent on wiping them out, they weren't interested in learning anything.  Funny that, Cods.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


no they werent... gees   you sure like re writing history.

check Port Arthurs history why dont you....

you have no idea what harm sanctimonious white men like you and pascoe do to the aboriginal community with giving them credit where it isnt due...

no one has ever claimed whitey didnt make any mistakes 200 bloody years ago....through ignorance for the most part... I think whitey has come a long way since those days,,

however our aboriginal chums  thanks to people like you have in fact lost skills you claim they once had.

like building and farming.....we dont see it today do we???>.. Angry Angry


"Whitey", as you so dismissively call them did make many mistakes less than 200 years ago.  I am attempting to get people like Hammer/Gnads/etc. to admit to them.  They continue those mistakes by dismissing Indigenous Australian culture and settlement patterns.  They dismiss what Indigenous Australians did achieve with a wave their hands.  You are dismissing it as well, Cods by questioning the results of research undertaken by numerous archeologists, historians and researchers, like Pascoe. People who are attempting to correct the mistakes and myths created by "Whitey" since colonisation.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #653 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:49pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:29pm:
"Whitey", as you so dismissively call them did make many mistakes less than 200 years ago.  I am attempting to get people like Hammer/Gnads/etc. to admit to them.  They continue those mistakes by dismissing Indigenous Australian culture and settlement patterns.  They dismiss what Indigenous Australians did achieve with a wave their hands.  You are dismissing it as well, Cods by questioning the results of research undertaken by numerous archeologists, historians and researchers, like Pascoe. People who are attempting to correct the mistakes and myths created by "Whitey" since colonisation.  Tsk, tsk




rubbish   you are the one who is dismissive  YAWN...and your tsk tsk.. what do you think others think of that???

I guess you dont care anyway..

but the term whitey means anyone who doesnt claim aboriginality....like me..

sorry my dear but I dont consider Pascoe an aboriginal or a researcher... he imo will be exposed down the track....and he is doing more harm to aboriginals  with his claims.....instead of wanting everyone to feel sorry for them...he would do them a favour by educating them into bring their children up to be productive citz instead of alcoholics...  or help prevent DV....  which is very well documented in their communities....and which they want whitey to mind his own business.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

you see they cant have a bet each way...and they should stop living in the past...which people like you encourage them to do.....I dont see skin colour  I see actions....and I judge by them.....I am a great believer in god helps those who help themselves.... and if I had anything to do with them   thats what I would set them to do....

help yourself.. surprise yourself...
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Reply #654 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 4:35pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:29pm:
"Whitey", as you so dismissively call them did make many mistakes less than 200 years ago.  I am attempting to get people like Hammer/Gnads/etc. to admit to them.  They continue those mistakes by dismissing Indigenous Australian culture and settlement patterns.  They dismiss what Indigenous Australians did achieve with a wave their hands.  You are dismissing it as well, Cods by questioning the results of research undertaken by numerous archeologists, historians and researchers, like Pascoe. People who are attempting to correct the mistakes and myths created by "Whitey" since colonisation.  Tsk, tsk


rubbish   you are the one who is dismissive  YAWN...and your tsk tsk.. what do you think others think of that???

I guess you dont care anyway..


Hopefully it indicates my annoyance with bullshit, Cods.  What does it indicate to you?

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but the term whitey means anyone who doesnt claim aboriginality....like me..


The term "whitey" shows contempt and it is not one I use, Cods.  You keep trying to erect strawman arguments.  Why?

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sorry my dear but I dont consider Pascoe an aboriginal or a researcher...


I don't care what "race" he claims.  He has undertaken considerable research.  Far more than you or I, Cods.  Roll Eyes

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he imo will be exposed down the track....and he is doing more harm to aboriginals  with his claims.....instead of wanting everyone to feel sorry for them...he would do them a favour by educating them into bring their children up to be productive citz instead of alcoholics...  or help prevent DV....  which is very well documented in their communities....and which they want whitey to mind his own business.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Their children will be productive, if White fellas like Gnads/Hammer/Graps/you allow them to be and don't judge them more harshly than you judge White people in similar circumstances, Cods.  Roll Eyes

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you see they cant have a bet each way...and they should stop living in the past...which people like you encourage them to do.....I dont see skin colour  I see actions....and I judge by them.....I am a great believer in god helps those who help themselves.... and if I had anything to do with them   thats what I would set them to do....

help yourself.. surprise yourself...


They are attempting to have their "past" recognised by white society, Cods.  You dismissal of it shows you don't give them the same respect you demand for your own ancestry.   I wonder why?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #655 - Jun 16th, 2020 at 4:38pm
 
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*  sorry my dear but I dont consider Pascoe an aboriginal or a researcher... he imo will be exposed down the track....and he is doing more harm to aboriginals  with his claims.....instead of wanting everyone to feel sorry for them...he would do them a favour by educating them into bring their children up to be productive citz instead of alcoholics...  or help prevent DV....  which is very well documented in their communities....and which they want whitey to mind his own business.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

you see they cant have a bet each way...and they should stop living in the past...which people like you encourage them to do.....I dont see skin colour  I see actions....and I judge by them.....I am a great believer in god helps those who help themselves.... and if I had anything to do with them   thats what I would set them to do....

help yourself.. surprise yourself...      


Exactly.

It's pointless living in the past.
It's pointless going backward when the world has advanced so much.

But as for giving them a chance.
How long will we continue to hand out free education to whatever level they want?
Very very few actually use these handouts preferring to be lazy bludgers and demanding more for nothing.

You would think, after 200 years that abbos would recognise that they are never going to get their bullshite primitive backward lifestyle back.
And who would want to anyway?
Short, painful, primitive existence on the verge of starving or dying every single day.

Way back, some whites have abused abbos.
But nowhere near the extent that blacks were abused right up to today.
But not all whites have abused or treated them badly.
Many of us are ambivalent to them, as they are to us.
Do you honestly believe ANY abbo has one care about us whities?
So why should it be different for us?

I challenge the abbos of today to go to the US, China, even Japan.
And see what true racism is.
They will come running back so fast they will look like whites going to work.

And they do get far more than us whites.
You would think, a small amount of thanks woukd be in order for getting all they get.
And not just abbos, dole bludgers, immigrants and even those on any sort of pension should go down on their knees and thank the working class for our excessive taxes that are then passed onto them.

But no, what do I get for my hard earned being thrown at the feet of these parasites.
Thanks?
Some consideration?

No

I get insulted, called a murderer, called a racist.
Told to go home and die.

This is my country, I am home, I was born here.
I have just as much right as some 1/1000th blood abbo to this country as they do.
I have contributed
I have worked.

If you can't thank me, then get f#$ked, because to me
You are a worthless burden on society.
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Bwian has selective reading. I have mentioned the casual cruelty towards Australia's native people on several occassions. The massacres. The rapes. The clearing of the land. Captain Fletcher and the frontier police; a band of murderous scoundrels. Nuclear testing on top of uninformed tribespeople. All true, all unforgiveable. However, I refuse to quarantine history. The greed and bloodlust are true of  all world history. Bwian is special; therefore his cultural anxieties are special. Can someone hurry up an knight the cant?
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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 4:35pm:
cods wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 16th, 2020 at 3:29pm:
"Whitey", as you so dismissively call them did make many mistakes less than 200 years ago.  I am attempting to get people like Hammer/Gnads/etc. to admit to them.  They continue those mistakes by dismissing Indigenous Australian culture and settlement patterns.  They dismiss what Indigenous Australians did achieve with a wave their hands.  You are dismissing it as well, Cods by questioning the results of research undertaken by numerous archeologists, historians and researchers, like Pascoe. People who are attempting to correct the mistakes and myths created by "Whitey" since colonisation.  Tsk, tsk


rubbish   you are the one who is dismissive  YAWN...and your tsk tsk.. what do you think others think of that???

I guess you dont care anyway..


Hopefully it indicates my annoyance with bullshit, Cods.  What does it indicate to you?

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but the term whitey means anyone who doesnt claim aboriginality....like me..


The term "whitey" shows contempt and it is not one I use, Cods.  You keep trying to erect strawman arguments.  Why?

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sorry my dear but I dont consider Pascoe an aboriginal or a researcher...


I don't care what "race" he claims.  He has undertaken considerable research.  Far more than you or I, Cods.  Roll Eyes

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he imo will be exposed down the track....and he is doing more harm to aboriginals  with his claims.....instead of wanting everyone to feel sorry for them...he would do them a favour by educating them into bring their children up to be productive citz instead of alcoholics...  or help prevent DV....  which is very well documented in their communities....and which they want whitey to mind his own business.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Their children will be productive, if White fellas like Gnads/Hammer/Graps/you allow them to be and don't judge them more harshly than you judge White people in similar circumstances, Cods.  Roll Eyes

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you see they cant have a bet each way...and they should stop living in the past...which people like you encourage them to do.....I dont see skin colour  I see actions....and I judge by them.....I am a great believer in god helps those who help themselves.... and if I had anything to do with them   thats what I would set them to do....

help yourself.. surprise yourself...


They are attempting to have their "past" recognised by white society, Cods.  You dismissal of it shows you don't give them the same respect you demand for your own ancestry.   I wonder why?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Well it's used by many Aboriginals ..... & a lot of the time prefixed by Capt. Cook & post fixed by c*#t.

They need to resist rewritting history in trying to have their past recognised.

Their children are judged no more harshly than anyone elses in similar circumstance ..... and they won't become productive believing that white people owe them everything just because they have Aboriginal blood.

People like you acquiescing to that mindset are part of the problem .... just like the Democrats are the problem for blacks in the USA.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 17th, 2020 at 12:29pm:
Bwian has selective reading. I have mentioned the casual cruelty towards Australia's native people on several occassions. The massacres. The rapes. The clearing of the land. Captain Fletcher and the frontier police; a band of murderous scoundrels. Nuclear testing on top of uninformed tribespeople. All true, all unforgiveable. However, I refuse to quarantine history. The greed and bloodlust are true of  all world history. Bwian is special; therefore his cultural anxieties are special. Can someone hurry up an knight the cant?


Yet you are still dismissive of Indigenous Australians' history, Hammer.  You still look down on them.  You still believe in your innate superiority over them because of the colour their skin.   Tsk, tsk, such a shallow understanding of our nation's history.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #659 - Jun 17th, 2020 at 2:03pm
 
Old boomer' never die; they just become more supercillious.
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