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Question: Is Bruce Pascoe
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a fraud    
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not a fraud    
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delusional    
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a scheming lowlife running a scam    
  3 (37.5%)
Aboriginal    
  2 (25.0%)
White    
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Other    
  1 (12.5%)
pure as the driven snow    
  0 (0.0%)




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Reply #585 - Apr 27th, 2020 at 8:56pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:40pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:27pm:
Until he provides proof positive of his assertions, they remain merely his views.... and just one view among many.


Views which is noted you and the other Racists have failed dismally to address.  Instead you wander off attempting to assassinate his character by dismissing his claims to Indigenous ancestry.  Roll Eyes




Nothing to address.. it's all been done before that racist Pascoe started in on it... as I said - just one view among many and hardly convincing.

And I'll thank you to avoid using terms such as 'racist' in addressing me... calling for proof - as opposed to Jasun's 'evidence' is not 'racist' in any way, so stop abusing the English language that the white man brought you.

I never said anything adverse about Koons and Niggruhs and other Untermenschen... but now that you stirred me up.... maybe your time and energy would be far better spent working on their very real problems..... if you ever wish to address those in between bouts of bullshit.


So quoting from early explorers/settlers journals/diaries are unconvincing?  I suspect you'd like the white to be declared black on pedestrian crossings to allow you to speed through them...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #586 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:11am
 
Aye - but the real question is - has he done Right?  No offence?  So somehow in Brianspeak that means nobody can disagree with his conclusions and his views?  We are supposed to simply accept his total minority interpretations as the only source of information - or we're 'racists'?

It doesn't matter if he's 'committed an offence' - the issue is - does he have any right to speak on behalf of Indigenous folk, through claiming some nebulous connection only ever verbaled once .. like some co-ordinates of the next 'meet' whispered once only on a moonless night during SAS selection ...the second issue is - how valid are his minority views and why are they receiving such attention without any attempt at offering alternative views and holding an open discussion of all views??

What planet you on?
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Reply #587 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:20am
 
Go to bed Grapps.  Grin

If Brian has read x15 more books specialising on Aboriginal Culture to your x1 (Daily Telegraph) - then yes, Brian has every right to feel right compared to your offering.

If an Aboriginal tribe has no professional Writers and Pascoe offers his service to promote them in return for any 'possible' profit attained by royalty. Then that is not 'Racist'.
Joseph Campbell wrote huge efforts on other 'cultures and mythologies' from George Lucas's American Graffiti to the San Bushman's reason to hunt a prey that takes them to the end of a continent.

I'm glad Pascoe has made an effort, if the Aboriginals themselves can't (because Whitey doesn't want them - too empowered).

In a complicated world where everyone is crying Mental Stress... it's the 'simpler' way of life that provides the only escape.
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Reply #588 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 2:53am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 8:56pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:40pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:27pm:
Until he provides proof positive of his assertions, they remain merely his views.... and just one view among many.


Views which is noted you and the other Racists have failed dismally to address.  Instead you wander off attempting to assassinate his character by dismissing his claims to Indigenous ancestry.  Roll Eyes




Nothing to address.. it's all been done before that racist Pascoe started in on it... as I said - just one view among many and hardly convincing.

And I'll thank you to avoid using terms such as 'racist' in addressing me... calling for proof - as opposed to Jasun's 'evidence' is not 'racist' in any way, so stop abusing the English language that the white man brought you.

I never said anything adverse about Koons and Niggruhs and other Untermenschen... but now that you stirred me up.... maybe your time and energy would be far better spent working on their very real problems..... if you ever wish to address those in between bouts of bullshit.


So quoting from early explorers/settlers journals/diaries are unconvincing?
  I suspect you'd like the white to be declared black on pedestrian crossings to allow you to speed through them...  Roll Eyes


Not when the preponderance of evidence indicates otherwise.

If you'd like to limit your discussion to 'terra nullius' and what that entails - you might do better than Piltdown's ravings based on severely cherry-picked references.

Let me start you off:-

Terra Nullius does not suggest there were no residents - it says there was no organised government or infrastructure to support those residents, and thus the way was open to install an organised government and infrastructure.  There was no organised society - ergo - by the values of those times - from which overall the Aboriginals have benefited mightily in many ways - there was no need to negotiate anything.

Times may have changed - but the realities do not - and a few temporary residencies where food was available still do not make a civilisation.  The reality is that with the intervention of civilisation, the life expectancy, general health, social conditions, opportunities, living standards, and so forth, of Indigenous Australians improved and continue to improve.

Piltdown and his ilk perpetually seeking to re-create some mythical golden past will eventually result in the society that has nurtured his kind rejecting their claims in entirety, and allowing them to 'do things their way' without assistance from that civilisation.

That is the end of it.... and Pascoe with all his unsupported rantings will not change that.  In reality, he is a mosquito annoying people, and with no real purpose or aim other than somehow sucking from them.. and his own 'tribe' do not accept him as one of their own...  does he share the earnings from his fantasy stories with this 'tribe' who reject him, like a Good Kaffir?  I'll bet not - he uses it to flourish in the White Man's society, nice house and so forth.

Get Over It!

A local Aboriginal I know here would be long dead without Whartey's intervention, via a quadruple bypass - and he was a footballer and as a child ball boy for Mick Cronin.  He has a job in the local health system, well paid with super etc, and his family do well....

Better than being food for weeds, eh?

Forget Piltdown - he is a loser seeking notoriety and money - easy path to riches unearned, as clearly shown by the feminists and others over the years.  Maybe someone will make him a professor or something and he will suck deeply off the academic tit for life, and laugh all the way to the bank, while the ABC and other fools pay him handsomely to badmouth Whitey's Man created civilisation that benefits him and them so very much.

Get back to me when he's accepted as a tribal member based on genuine ancestry.
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Re: Bruce Pascoe has committed no offence
Reply #589 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 5:45am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:20am:
Go to bed Grapps.  Grin

If Brian has read x15 more books specialising on Aboriginal Culture to your x1 (Daily Telegraph) - then yes, Brian has every right to feel right compared to your offering.

If an Aboriginal tribe has no professional Writers and Pascoe offers his service to promote them in return for any 'possible' profit attained by royalty. Then that is not 'Racist'.
Joseph Campbell wrote huge efforts on other 'cultures and mythologies' from George Lucas's American Graffiti to the San Bushman's reason to hunt a prey that takes them to the end of a continent.

I'm glad Pascoe has made an effort, if the Aboriginals themselves can't (because Whitey doesn't want them - too empowered).

In a complicated world where everyone is crying Mental Stress... it's the 'simpler' way of life that provides the only escape.


Of course bwyannnmnnn has read, done and is more than any living person on earth.
His 7654 doctorates are legend.

But the simple fact is that Pascoe is a liar.
He has taken statements and embellished them to a ludicrous level.
If he saw a 747 jet, it woukd be described as a small moon.

As for making an effort.
He is/was looking for a free ride on the abbo industry.
But the abbos don't want to know him.
His lies even embarrass them.

And the abbos themselves?
Well, being culturally predisposed to Lazyness, I guess they will never achieve anything above being drunk, drugged begging parasites.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Reply #590 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 7:45am
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:11am:
and why are they receiving such attention without any attempt at offering alternative views and holding an open discussion of all views??


I guess the jury of poms wrote in English not Swahili or Pitjatjantjara . English words are known to lots of oz ppl . 
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Reply #591 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:17pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:11am:
Aye - but the real question is - has he done Right?  No offence?  So somehow in Brianspeak that means nobody can disagree with his conclusions and his views?  We are supposed to simply accept his total minority interpretations as the only source of information - or we're 'racists'?


No, you're Racists 'cause you harp on about "race", Graps.  Who cares what "race" a person claims to be?  I don't.  I look at what they are saying and discuss that, rather than always bringing up the issue of "race".  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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It doesn't matter if he's 'committed an offence' - the issue is - does he have any right to speak on behalf of Indigenous folk, through claiming some nebulous connection only ever verbaled once .. like some co-ordinates of the next 'meet' whispered once only on a moonless night during SAS selection ...the second issue is - how valid are his minority views and why are they receiving such attention without any attempt at offering alternative views and holding an open discussion of all views??

What planet you on?


Here we go again.  You refuse to discuss what Pascoe has said and instead concentrate on what "race" he supposedly is.  Do you realise how childish that is, Graps?  Talk about what he has claimed.  About what he has quoted.  Don't talk about the author's views on his ancestry.  It is immaterial.  You and the other Racists concentrate on only one aspect of the person and refuse to discuss the ideas that he has presented.  Why?  'cause you can't or you won't?  I suspect it is the latter rather than the former.  You won't because it destroys the idea that Indigenous Australians were simple, uniformly, across the entire continent, "hunter gatherers".  It overturns the concept of "terra nullius".  It destroys the idea that White settlers didn't dispossess the Indigenous people of their land.  It justifies that the Stolen Generations were good.  You are living in the past and until you address Pascoe's views, you'll stay there.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #592 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:22pm
 
Proof or no dice.... unsupported assertions about ethnic origin etc do not wash.  Thank you, Bruce, your Cornish views are worth a look and a few small points could be of historical interest, but the weight of evidence is against you regardless of how much hoop-la goes down in the media.

Constantly repeating the same refrain even after it has been discredited does no good to anyone, as Dr Goebbels found.
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Reply #593 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:24pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 2:53am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 8:56pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:40pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:27pm:
Until he provides proof positive of his assertions, they remain merely his views.... and just one view among many.


Views which is noted you and the other Racists have failed dismally to address.  Instead you wander off attempting to assassinate his character by dismissing his claims to Indigenous ancestry.  Roll Eyes




Nothing to address.. it's all been done before that racist Pascoe started in on it... as I said - just one view among many and hardly convincing.

And I'll thank you to avoid using terms such as 'racist' in addressing me... calling for proof - as opposed to Jasun's 'evidence' is not 'racist' in any way, so stop abusing the English language that the white man brought you.

I never said anything adverse about Koons and Niggruhs and other Untermenschen... but now that you stirred me up.... maybe your time and energy would be far better spent working on their very real problems..... if you ever wish to address those in between bouts of bullshit.


So quoting from early explorers/settlers journals/diaries are unconvincing?
  I suspect you'd like the white to be declared black on pedestrian crossings to allow you to speed through them...  Roll Eyes


Not when the preponderance of evidence indicates otherwise.

If you'd like to limit your discussion to 'terra nullius' and what that entails - you might do better than Piltdown's ravings based on severely cherry-picked references.

Let me start you off:-

Terra Nullius does not suggest there were no residents - it says there was no organised government or infrastructure to support those residents, and thus the way was open to install an organised government and infrastructure.  There was no organised society - ergo - by the values of those times - from which overall the Aboriginals have benefited mightily in many ways - there was no need to negotiate anything.

Times may have changed - but the realities do not - and a few temporary residencies where food was available still do not make a civilisation.  The reality is that with the intervention of civilisation, the life expectancy, general health, social conditions, opportunities, living standards, and so forth, of Indigenous Australians improved and continue to improve.

Piltdown and his ilk perpetually seeking to re-create some mythical golden past will eventually result in the society that has nurtured his kind rejecting their claims in entirety, and allowing them to 'do things their way' without assistance from that civilisation.

That is the end of it.... and Pascoe with all his unsupported rantings will not change that.  In reality, he is a mosquito annoying people, and with no real purpose or aim other than somehow sucking from them.. and his own 'tribe' do not accept him as one of their own...  does he share the earnings from his fantasy stories with this 'tribe' who reject him, like a Good Kaffir?  I'll bet not - he uses it to flourish in the White Man's society, nice house and so forth.

Get Over It!

A local Aboriginal I know here would be long dead without Whartey's intervention, via a quadruple bypass - and he was a footballer and as a child ball boy for Mick Cronin.  He has a job in the local health system, well paid with super etc, and his family do well....

Better than being food for weeds, eh?

Forget Piltdown - he is a loser seeking notoriety and money - easy path to riches unearned, as clearly shown by the feminists and others over the years.  Maybe someone will make him a professor or something and he will suck deeply off the academic tit for life, and laugh all the way to the bank, while the ABC and other fools pay him handsomely to badmouth Whitey's Man created civilisation that benefits him and them so very much.

Get back to me when he's accepted as a tribal member based on genuine ancestry.


"Piltdown" is not a person but is a place, Graps.

Terra Nullius was not about social organisation it  was a legalistic slight of hand to dispossess the Indigenous Australians of an entire continent.   Native Americans, Central Asians, Greenlanders, Africans, all were at approximately the same level of development as Indigenous Australians and were recognised as peoples who owned the land on which they dwelt.  Some were true nomads.  Yet Europeans concluded treaties with them.  They recognised them.  Indigenous Australians?  Nope.

Run along, Graps.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #594 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:26pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Proof or no dice.... unsupported assertions about ethnic origin etc do not wash.  Thank you, Bruce, your Cornish views are worth a look and a few small points could be of historical interest, but the weight of evidence is against you regardless of how much hoop-la goes down in the media.

Constantly repeating the same refrain even after it has been discredited does no good to anyone, as Dr Goebbels found.


I want to talk about what Pascoe has suggested, not his ancestry.  You just want to discredit him because of his ancestry.   Tsk, tsk, it appears you're a real, true, Racist, Graps.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #595 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:32pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 5:45am:
Jasin wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:20am:
Go to bed Grapps.  Grin

If Brian has read x15 more books specialising on Aboriginal Culture to your x1 (Daily Telegraph) - then yes, Brian has every right to feel right compared to your offering.

If an Aboriginal tribe has no professional Writers and Pascoe offers his service to promote them in return for any 'possible' profit attained by royalty. Then that is not 'Racist'.
Joseph Campbell wrote huge efforts on other 'cultures and mythologies' from George Lucas's American Graffiti to the San Bushman's reason to hunt a prey that takes them to the end of a continent.

I'm glad Pascoe has made an effort, if the Aboriginals themselves can't (because Whitey doesn't want them - too empowered).

In a complicated world where everyone is crying Mental Stress... it's the 'simpler' way of life that provides the only escape.


Of course bwyannnmnnn has read, done and is more than any living person on earth.
His 7654 doctorates are legend.

But the simple fact is that Pascoe is a liar.
He has taken statements and embellished them to a ludicrous level.
If he saw a 747 jet, it woukd be described as a small moon.

As for making an effort.
He is/was looking for a free ride on the abbo industry.
But the abbos don't want to know him.
His lies even embarrass them.

And the abbos themselves?
Well, being culturally predisposed to Lazyness, I guess they will never achieve anything above being drunk, drugged begging parasites.


Jasun - are you now telling us that all those tertiary educated Aboriginals are incapable of writing their own stuff?  Doing their own research?  Deciding for themselves who is and who isn't part of their group/culture?

You filthy racist supremacist... I think I'll show this to my nephew and see how much he laughs... though he might sharpen the spear for you.

Sometimes you have a point... but often you just meander off into Gondwanaland or whatever.

It's sad that many Aboriginals can't see anything out of a life of despair and thus abuse of substances etc - but those are real problems that need to be addressed - discussion of the high or low civilisation quality of a few villages where the food is abundant is not.

Were the Plains Indians considered to be more than hunter-gatherers, given that they had a 'stamping ground' and regular cycles of food hunting and movable townships..... at some time most cultures were hunter-gatherer - it's not an insult - but the reality is, as I said - Terra Nullius says there was no organised government and thus it was wide open to being civilised.

That is now an outdated concept, as we all know... nowadays, unless you're a Chink or an Indo, you can't just waltz in with guns and say - this is free land and we're taking it.

Considering Tibet and West Papua, the hypocrisy is outstanding over this Pascoe non-issue.

Jasun - can you PROVE Pascoe was asked by any Indigenous group to be their spokesperson?  The bloke I saw discussing the Murray River didn't have much trouble speaking for himself and his group... they're not just dumb animals who need the white man to speak up for them, you know.....
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Reply #596 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:41pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:32pm:
Jasun - can you PROVE Pascoe was asked by any Indigenous group to be their spokesperson?  The bloke I saw discussing the Murray River didn't have much trouble speaking for himself and his group... they're not just dumb animals who need the white man to speak up for them, you know.....


Why does it matter?  Who cares?  Except for a few Racists, it is a non-issue.  What is important is that what Pascoe has quoted from the early explorers/settlers journals, Graps.  The things you refuse to talk about...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #597 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:26pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Proof or no dice.... unsupported assertions about ethnic origin etc do not wash.  Thank you, Bruce, your Cornish views are worth a look and a few small points could be of historical interest, but the weight of evidence is against you regardless of how much hoop-la goes down in the media.

Constantly repeating the same refrain even after it has been discredited does no good to anyone, as Dr Goebbels found.


I want to talk about what Pascoe has suggested, not his ancestry.  You just want to discredit him because of his ancestry.   Tsk, tsk, it appears you're a real, true, Racist, Graps.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Pascoe has suggested he has Aboriginal ancestry.
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Reply #598 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:53pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:26pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Proof or no dice.... unsupported assertions about ethnic origin etc do not wash.  Thank you, Bruce, your Cornish views are worth a look and a few small points could be of historical interest, but the weight of evidence is against you regardless of how much hoop-la goes down in the media.

Constantly repeating the same refrain even after it has been discredited does no good to anyone, as Dr Goebbels found.


I want to talk about what Pascoe has suggested, not his ancestry.  You just want to discredit him because of his ancestry.   Tsk, tsk, it appears you're a real, true, Racist, Graps.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Pascoe has suggested he has Aboriginal ancestry.


You misquoted me, Set.  I have corrected your quote to reflect it's real meaning.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #599 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 1:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:53pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:26pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 12:22pm:
Proof or no dice.... unsupported assertions about ethnic origin etc do not wash.  Thank you, Bruce, your Cornish views are worth a look and a few small points could be of historical interest, but the weight of evidence is against you regardless of how much hoop-la goes down in the media.

Constantly repeating the same refrain even after it has been discredited does no good to anyone, as Dr Goebbels found.


I want to talk about what Pascoe has suggested, not his ancestry.  You just want to discredit him because of his ancestry.   Tsk, tsk, it appears you're a real, true, Racist, Graps.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Pascoe has suggested he has Aboriginal ancestry.


You misquoted me, Set.  I have corrected your quote to reflect it's real meaning.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


So you only want to talk about some of his suggestions?
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