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Reply #45 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

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Reply #46 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

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Reply #47 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

"Twist"? No, I've hardly contributed to this thread, after starting it. Why? 'cause I knew it would upset people like you to realise that Pascoe was innocent of any wrong doing. Lap it up, sonny Jim. Why was Dutton so interesting this case of indentity? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

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Reply #48 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

"Twist"? No, I've hardly contributed to this thread, after starting it. Why? 'cause I knew it would upset people like you to realise that Pascoe was innocent of any wrong doing. Lap it up, sonny Jim. Why was Dutton so interesting this case of indentity? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

no idea.

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Reply #49 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:53pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

"Twist"? No, I've hardly contributed to this thread, after starting it. Why? 'cause I knew it would upset people like you to realise that Pascoe was innocent of any wrong doing. Lap it up, sonny Jim. Why was Dutton so interesting this case of indentity? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

no idea.

Could it be that at heart, he's as Racist as you are?

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Reply #50 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Oh bullshit Brian, there are many DNA sequencers around. We could let him choose. The reason he would never give his OK is simple to understand. He's not Aboriginal. All this could be over and done with after paying $150. Why do you think he doesn't do that?

Why? He bases his credibility on it. It's the only reason he is listened to. It's a simple thing, show us this DNA you claim.

I've posted my mum's DNA chart here, you've seen it, her great great grandmother came here in 1850 from Donegal and her DNA shows that. It's cheap and shows where your DNA comes from. Help us crowd fund $150 to have his claim settled once and for all? What are you and he afraid of?

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Re: Bruce Pascoe has committed no offence
Reply #51 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:59pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Well - to be frank and earnest - Frank in Chicago and Ernest in Detroit... if he were serious he would not hesitate to offer his DNA to settle the issue once and for all...

His 'using settler's journals' is an interpretation of those journals... with, shall we say, mild expansion of the realities shown - e.g. a fish trap becomes 'aquaculture'... hoarding of a few seeds and fruits becomes 'agriculture'....

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17370 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Bruce Pascoe has committed no offence Reply #52 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:05pm Oops, he's gone again. It's a simple ask, Brian. Hey Bruce, can you give us a bit of spit, all sorted. Substantiate your claims. That is the way things are sorted isn't it Brian? Make a claim, substantiate it.
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Reply #53 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

"Twist"? No, I've hardly contributed to this thread, after starting it. Why? 'cause I knew it would upset people like you to realise that Pascoe was innocent of any wrong doing. Lap it up, sonny Jim. Why was Dutton so interesting this case of indentity? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

no idea.

Could it be that at heart, he's as Racist as you are?

Can't wait until tomorrow - after the arguments I've had this week in the fire relief organisation - to be able to point to crowds with nasty word signs etc.. and say "look - they're demeaning my people.. calling them rapists, racists, thieves and genociders".....

It will be sweet, let me tell you... justice always is... even better if they play up ....

But, Heaven Forbid - don't you even suggest that some might be 'triggered' by your flying your nation's flag on its national day... all hell will break loose... and don't you dare say that, given recent experience with relief supplies, some of the layabouts and hangers-on in a town might line up for unearned relief.... they'll tell you you're a racist even though you never mentioned Aboriginals... just layabouts and hangers-on....

Guilty conscience?

It's going to be sweet... I hope these fools brawl and carry on... most of them Wharteys anyway with a grievance against their good fortune in being here at all... 71% want Australia Day to remain Australia Day - who are the other 29%? Does anyone really care about lunatic fringe groups?

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90395 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Bruce Pascoe has committed no offence Reply #54 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:11pm I think I'm being 'triggered' - all that name-calling - racist, genocidist, rapists, thieves, terrorists ... oooh, oooh.... It's gonna be sweet, I tellz yez.... wonder when all them Wharteys who line up are going to hand back their homes and land to their bosom buddies???
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Reply #55 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 10:54pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Oh bullshit Brian, there are many DNA sequencers around. We could let him choose. The reason he would never give his OK is simple to understand. He's not Aboriginal. All this could be over and done with after paying $150. Why do you think he doesn't do that?

Why? He bases his credibility on it. It's the only reason he is listened to. It's a simple thing, show us this DNA you claim.

I've posted my mum's DNA chart here, you've seen it, her great great grandmother came here in 1850 from Donegal and her DNA shows that. It's cheap and shows where your DNA comes from. Help us crowd fund $150 to have his claim settled once and for all? What are you and he afraid of?

Problem is, there are no DNA Genes which show what "race" a person is or had ancestors from. DNA sequencing will tell you bugger all about an individual, except that he may have committed a crime. It won't tell you if Pascoe is an Indigenous Australia or not. Roll Eyes

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Reply #56 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 10:55pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

"Twist"? No, I've hardly contributed to this thread, after starting it. Why? 'cause I knew it would upset people like you to realise that Pascoe was innocent of any wrong doing. Lap it up, sonny Jim. Why was Dutton so interesting this case of indentity? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

no idea.

Could it be that at heart, he's as Racist as you are?

Can't wait until tomorrow - after the arguments I've had this week in the fire relief organisation - to be able to point to crowds with nasty word signs etc.. and say "look - they're demeaning my people.. calling them rapists, racists, thieves and genociders".....

It will be sweet, let me tell you... justice always is... even better if they play up ....

But, Heaven Forbid - don't you even suggest that some might be 'triggered' by your flying your nation's flag on its national day... all hell will break loose... and don't you dare say that, given recent experience with relief supplies, some of the layabouts and hangers-on in a town might line up for unearned relief.... they'll tell you you're a racist even though you never mentioned Aboriginals... just layabouts and hangers-on....

Guilty conscience?

It's going to be sweet... I hope these fools brawl and carry on... most of them Wharteys anyway with a grievance against their good fortune in being here at all... 71% want Australia Day to remain Australia Day - who are the other 29%? Does anyone really care about lunatic fringe groups?

Why are you addressing this to me, Graps? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

Out of a matter of interest, are you proud how Australia has treated its Indigenous citizens or how Australians continue to treat their fellow Indigenous citizens?

Personally, I think we should forget all this "us" versus "them" shite and come together as Australians. Australia day is being celebrated on the wrong day but hey, while it's on January 26th, lets all enjoy it. Cool

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Reply #57 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 11:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 10:55pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 4:17pm:

What needs to be done on this fraud is a ancestry dna test. Lying scumbag!

We could even crowd fund the $150 it would cost. You'd think he'd be up for that to protect his good name, eh?

Why bother? It would not show anything. Ancestry DNA tests only exist to enrich the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) and allows them to baptise previous generations into their church. There are no Genes which show what a person's "race" might be. Don't be sucked into believing otherwise.

You would also need Pascoe's permission and co-operation to carry out the test, which I doubt he'd be willing to provide. Roll Eyes

Why are people so concerned about this one man's claim to being Indigenous Australian?

Is it 'cause he hurt your feelings by writing a book which undones a great deal of Colonial history? He used White Colonists journals. Were they lying? Roll Eyes

Better still, why are your knickers in a twist because many people think he's a fraud?

"Twist"? No, I've hardly contributed to this thread, after starting it. Why? 'cause I knew it would upset people like you to realise that Pascoe was innocent of any wrong doing. Lap it up, sonny Jim. Why was Dutton so interesting this case of indentity? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

no idea.

Could it be that at heart, he's as Racist as you are?

Can't wait until tomorrow - after the arguments I've had this week in the fire relief organisation - to be able to point to crowds with nasty word signs etc.. and say "look - they're demeaning my people.. calling them rapists, racists, thieves and genociders".....

It will be sweet, let me tell you... justice always is... even better if they play up ....

But, Heaven Forbid - don't you even suggest that some might be 'triggered' by your flying your nation's flag on its national day... all hell will break loose... and don't you dare say that, given recent experience with relief supplies, some of the layabouts and hangers-on in a town might line up for unearned relief.... they'll tell you you're a racist even though you never mentioned Aboriginals... just layabouts and hangers-on....

Guilty conscience?

It's going to be sweet... I hope these fools brawl and carry on... most of them Wharteys anyway with a grievance against their good fortune in being here at all... 71% want Australia Day to remain Australia Day - who are the other 29%? Does anyone really care about lunatic fringe groups?

Why are you addressing this to me, Graps? Mmmmm? Roll Eyes

Just getting it out there, mah man - waiting for the PC and SJW parade tomorrow... might go next year meself - hand out the papers for all the Wharteys to sign over their land and homes to their Brothers... link arms and Kumbayah, eh?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21103 Gender:	Re: Bruce Pascoe has committed no offence Reply #58 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 11:03pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 10:55pm: Australia day is being celebrated on the wrong day but hey, while it's on January 26th, lets all enjoy it. Yes. The "invasion" was on the 18-20th January.
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Reply #59 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 11:08pm

"These tests evaluate large numbers of variations (single nucleotide polymorphisms or SNPs) across a person’s entire genome. The results are compared with those of others who have taken the tests to provide an estimate of a person's ethnic background. For example, the pattern of SNPs might indicate that a person's ancestry is approximately 50 percent African, 25 percent European, 20 percent Asian, and 5 percent unknown. Genealogists use this type of test because Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA test results, which represent only single ancestral lines, do not capture the overall ethnic background of an individual.

Genetic ancestry testing has a number of limitations. Test providers compare individuals' test results to different databases of previous tests, so ethnicity estimates may not be consistent from one provider to another. Also, because most human populations have migrated many times throughout their history and mixed with nearby groups, ethnicity estimates based on genetic testing may differ from an individual's expectations."

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/primer/dtcgenetictesting/ancestrytesting

Of course there was limited contact with Aboriginal Australia prior to 1788, so any markers for aboriginality should be well identified.

So yes there is no DNA "gene" you need the entire genome. Wink

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a fraud 0 (0.0%) not a fraud 1 (12.5%) delusional 1 (12.5%) a scheming lowlife running a scam 3 (37.5%) Aboriginal 2 (25.0%) White 0 (0.0%) Other 1 (12.5%) pure as the driven snow 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 8 « Created by: Grappler Racist Filth on: Jan 24^th, 2020 at 7:31pm »