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Has the drought broken?
Jan 17^th, 2020 at 8:20pm

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/queensland-storms-and-showers-bring-more-muc...

Queensland storms and showers bring more much needed rain to drought-affected areas

Friday January 17, 2020 - 18:51 EDT
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Rain north-east of Chinchilla had empty dams overflowing in a few short hours. - ABC licensed

Widespread showers and storms have dumped more than 100 millimetres across parts of drought-stricken Queensland with severe thunderstorms continuing to sweep across large parts of the state.

The Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) said in its alert at 4:27pm that severe thunderstorms are rumbling over central and northern Queensland, with heavy rain over the state's south-east inland.

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/bom-says-more-rain-on-way-for-sydney-as-coun...

BOM says more rain on way for Sydney as country creek flows for first time in five years

By Lydia Feng and Amelia Bernasconi, Friday January 17, 2020 - 17:51 EDT

Water has flowed through a creek in drought-ravaged northern New South Wales for the first time in five years with more heavy rain and thunderstorms expected to hit the state over the weekend.

Sydney can expect between 20 and 50 millimetres of rain on Saturday and showers on Sunday after the city, and most of NSW, received a welcome soaking over the past two days.

A video caught the moment water flowed through Halls Creek near Bingara in northern NSW for the first time in five years.

"Great to see. It brought a bit of a spark to town," Bingara farmer Robert Kilmore said.

"Everyone in town was driving around to look at it â€” amazing what rain can do that's for sure."

Nearby Bundarra recorded 105mm in the 24 hours to 9.00am at the town's post office, and Moree recorded 51mm â€” the town's best falls since March 2017.

Storms are also possible for much of eastern Queensland and may produce damaging winds and heavy rainfall that could lead to flash flooding, including large hailstones, in Clermont, Proserpine, Charters Towers, Bowen, Townsville, Moranbah, Collinsville, Hamilton Island and Ayr.

The BOM also issued a separate severe thunderstorm warning at 5:25pm for South-East Queensland, for people in the Southern Downs, Toowoomba and Lockyer Valley council areas.

BOM said 82mm was recorded in an hour at Mt Sylvia, south-east of Toowoomba.

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Re: Has the drought broken?
Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2020 at 8:22pm

More rain on the horizon for eastern, southeast Australia

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/more-rain-on-the-horizon-for-eastern-southea...

Ben Domensino, Friday January 17, 2020 - 14:52 EDT

Wet weather will continue to affect parts of eastern and southeastern Australia this weekend and early next week, with heavy rain and severe thunderstorms likely in some areas.

On Saturday, the focus of the heaviest rain will be from central Queensland down to central NSW near a low pressure trough. Severe thunderstorms and heavy rain are likely in both states, with flash flooding a good chance underneath the day's more intense storms.

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Reply #2 - Jan 17^th, 2020 at 8:23pm

https://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/bom-downgrades-severe-thunderstorm-warning-a...

BOM downgrades severe thunderstorm warning as rain brings bushfire relief across NSW

By Kevin Nguyen and David Hirst, Friday January 17, 2020 - 00:45 EDT
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Predicted rainfall for Thursday afternoon, based on modelling from the Bureau of Meteorology. - ABC

The Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) has downgraded its warning for severe thunderstorms across parts of Sydney and the Blue Mountains as conditions have eased.

It said severe thunderstorms were no longer affecting Sydney, Newcastle and Wollongong or surrounding areas, however the situation was being monitored closely as it was possible further severe thunderstorms could develop.

A more general warning remains in place for areas stretching from the South West Slopes and Plains and Snowy Mountains districts to the Mid North Coast.

The NSW State Emergency Service (SES) said it had received around 200 callouts across the state, mostly for fallen trees and leaking roofs.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #3 - Jan 17^th, 2020 at 8:51pm I think my praying had something to do with it bobs... I told you it would work..
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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122089 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #4 - Jan 17^th, 2020 at 8:54pm cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2020 at 8:51pm: I think my praying had something to do with it bobs... I told you it would work.. Actually it coincided with the prayers of her majesty the Queen.
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Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2020 at 9:22pm

Indian Ocean Dipole has overturned.

"BOM climatologist Jonathan Pollock said it is likely the IOD has outweighed El Nino in driving this year's dry.

"While we've seen development towards an El Nino in the Pacific, we're not there yet," Mr Pollock said.

"But we have had a positive Indian Ocean Dipole event."

Dr Caroline Umenhoffer said the strongest droughts and floods Australia experiences are when the IOD combines with ENSO."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-07/indian-ocean-dipole-dominant-cause-drough...

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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122089 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2020 at 10:29pm I put my esteemed reputation on the line - the drought has broken - the fires will be out soon.
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16760 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #7 - Jan 18^th, 2020 at 12:54pm Well, I didn't want to take all the credit, but I did wash my car the other day.
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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122089 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #8 - Jan 18^th, 2020 at 2:04pm Just watching the QLD floods right now on ABC 24.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #9 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 9:14am No, 1 rain event doesnt break droughts
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 155733 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #10 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:48am Bobby. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2020 at 10:29pm: I put my esteemed reputation on the line - the drought has broken - the fires will be out soon. No rain in WA.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #11 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 11:35am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:48am: No rain in WA. When?
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Bobby. Moderator Online Australian Politics Posts: 122089 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #12 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 11:59am greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:48am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2020 at 10:29pm: I put my esteemed reputation on the line - the drought has broken - the fires will be out soon. No rain in WA. It's rained a lot just about everywhere else.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #13 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:20pm It has rained in WA in the last week. Let alone the last month. Has the drought broken in WA. No. But droughts are local/regional not whole of country.
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Reply #14 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 11:59am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:48am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2020 at 10:29pm:

I put my esteemed reputation on the line -

the drought has broken -

the fires will be out soon.

No rain in WA.

It's rained a lot just about everywhere else.

Mosty of which will just wash off the topsoil and not soak into the ground

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #15 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:26pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:20pm: Mosty of which will just wash off the topsoil and not soak into the ground Only in areas where there is nothing to stop it. That's why farmers are now putting in things to slow water down.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 155733 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #16 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:28pm lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:20pm: It has rained in WA in the last week. Let alone the last month. Has the drought broken in WA. No. But droughts are local/regional not whole of country. http://www.bom.gov.au/web03/ncc/www/awap/rainfall/totals/month/colour/latest.wa.... No rain to speak of, in WA.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #17 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:28pm: No rain to speak of, in WA. So between 50 and 100mm is nothing to speak of? Of course that's the tropics. Under an inch most elsewhere.
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Reply #18 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm

lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:20pm:

Mosty of which will just wash off the topsoil and not soak into the ground

Only in areas where there is nothing to stop it.

That's why farmers are now putting in things to slow water down.

Congratulations you've found dams.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 58054 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #19 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 1:34pm It could pissz down for years and every Farmer would still call drought like a Dole handout. Going by how Australians Manage Water - it looks like that Drought will continue.
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Reply #20 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 2:00pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:

Congratulations you've found dams.

Such a numpty. Farmers are putting impediments in streamflow to slow down the water so it gets a chance to sink in. It also lessens erosion, the thing that removes topsoil. Erosion also puts sediment into dams; lessening their capacity.

Now all that has to do is sink in for you. Wink

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Reply #21 - Feb 11^th, 2020 at 2:02pm

BoM's Outlook for January / February

"January is likely to be wetter then average across most of WA, the far north and south of the NT, and the western half of SA. Northern and central parts of Queensland, western and southern NSW, and northeast Victoria are likely to be drier for the month.
In February, this pattern is likely to weaken. A slightly increased chance of drier conditions remains in the east, but most of the rest of the country shows roughly equal chances of wetter or drier than average conditions for February to April. "

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/outlooks/archive/20200102-outlook.shtml

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Reply #22 - Feb 11^th, 2020 at 2:09pm

lee wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 2:00pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:

Congratulations you've found dams.

Such a numpty. Farmers are putting impediments in streamflow to slow down the water so it gets a chance to sink in. It also lessens erosion, the thing that removes topsoil. Erosion also puts sediment into dams; lessening their capacity.

Now all that has to do is sink in for you. Wink

Sorry was hard to figure out what you meant since you aren't a scientist.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #23 - Feb 11^th, 2020 at 2:20pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 2:09pm: Sorry was hard to figure out what you meant since you aren't a scientist. So you only understand scientists? And yet you haven't shown any propensity at all. Go figure.
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6171 Gender:	Re: Has the drought broken? Reply #24 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:12am No, the drought has not broken. It will require months of steady rainfall to top up dams, create steady flows in rivers and to top up the groundwater that everything else depends on.
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Reply #25 - Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:57pm

Belgarion wrote on Feb 12^th, 2020 at 11:12am:

No, the drought has not broken. It will require months of steady rainfall to top up dams, create steady flows in rivers and to top up the groundwater that everything else depends on.

I want to go for a walk down to the barrage to see the river levels. I have yet to see the other side of town in the last few weeks.

However, we have only had occasional rainfall from storms. We are still below average for rainfall. And I cannot imagine any regional towns outside the southeast corner of Qld that has had sufficient rainfall.

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