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Dec 28th, 2019 at 12:59pm
 
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Bushfires wipe out one in every three koalas on Australia's east coast - as experts warn the beloved marsupial could be on the verge of extinction

The lunatic green inspired bureaucracy which fined people for clearing fire hazard material, instead it was enforced that the undergrowth had to be left alone as it was habitat for wild life.

Well we now see the results of the brain dead policy of not having firebreaks, and yearly burn offs.

But wait and see this madness will continue.
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Reply #1 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:08pm
 
didnt morrison refuse to discuss it with the fire chiefs who wanted to do that stuff?

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Reply #2 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:17pm
 
Why does everybody want to blame Morrison?

My understanding is that state and local govts control the forests and emergency services.
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Reply #3 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:34pm
 
moses wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Why does everybody want to blame Morrison?

My understanding is that state and local govts control the forests and emergency services.


Because he refused to meet with them about policy so obviously he has the end say about what states can do

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Reply #4 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:39pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:34pm:
Because he refused to meet with them about policy so obviously he has the end say about what states can do



Nope. The states control national parks. The states are responsible for maintaining the parks to help  prevent fires. Some states, it has been reported haven't done controlled burs for 30 or 40 years. And they didn't expect catastrophic fires? Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:39pm
 
deleted already covered by lee


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Reply #6 - Dec 29th, 2019 at 9:48am
 
moses wrote on Dec 28th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Why does everybody want to blame Morrison?



Why does everyone want to blame the greens?

They arn't even in power
It's also a myth that they object to controlled burns

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A “put out every fire” approach to wildland fire management for decades has left us with a fire deficit which can fuel unusually big, hot fires. Many forests in the West have “skipped” fires that normally would have occurred due to overly-aggressive fire suppression. Ecologically speaking, these forests need to burn, as they have for thousands of years, to sustain a cycle of life, death and renewal. We need to protect people and property, but extinguishing every wildland fire only, well, backfires over time.
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/environmentalist-what-you-dont-know-about-forest-...

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Reply #7 - Dec 29th, 2019 at 4:38pm
 
Read the latest country life, about the Charleville bloke who was prosecuted for pushing mulga for his cattle to eat.

Mulga grows in a *least concern ecosystem* it is not endangered, yet our stupid green-labor policies now call it illegal to feed mulga to your cattle.

We have been doing it since the convicts in chains first arrived.

It is certainly not lib - nats policy to stop farmers feeding mulge to the cattle, the stupidity of the green left is to blame.
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Reply #8 - Dec 29th, 2019 at 4:40pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 9:48am:
Why does everyone want to blame the greens?



it's typical of the right, never take responsibility, balme someone else.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/12/is-there-really-a-green-c...
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Reply #9 - Dec 29th, 2019 at 5:20pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 9:48am:
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/environmentalist-what-you-dont-know-about-forest-...



Poor Barney confuses Greenpeace with the Greens Party. Grin Grin Grin Grin

The problem with "Green Tape" is that it effectively takes the control out fireys control. It typically takes in excess of 3 months for a permit in national parks.

"Strict controls are required to reduce the amount of rural burning that is not required for essential asset protection;"

"Local Bush Fire Management Committees should prepare summaries of landholder obligations under risk management plans, including environmental assessment and protection requirements, for general circulation in the district;"

" High bush fire hazard areas are usually those associated with natural areas and vegetation. The location of residential or rural residential areas in high bush fire hazard areas increases the level of native vegetation loss as well as the level of threat to people and their homes. This is neither economically, socially nor ecologically sustainable. New development that requires the clearing of native vegetation on adjoining properties should not be permitted in identified Bushfire Prone Areas, where such development is likely to put lives or property in danger or involve substantial protection and suppression costs including loss of environmental values."

"The Greens NSW will work towards:

16. The need for Fire Permits to be obtained at all times of the year throughout New South Wales when there is a significant risk of fire escape, not just during the Bushfire Danger Period;"

"19. The carrying out of adequate environmental assessment on all activities or works proposed to be undertaken in accordance with a bush fire risk management plan;"

"20. Accurate mapping of all proposed and actual fires on a standardised Geographic Information System with additional data collected with respect to intensity, height of burn, slope, etc;"

"28. Ensuring that all bush fire hazard management works proposed under bush fire management plans are prepared using the best available data, are available for public comment, and are adequately assessed to ensure that proposed works and prescriptions are ecologically sustainable and appropriate for implementation with an appropriate audit and compliance program."

https://greens.org.au/nsw/policies/bushfire-risk-management

Of course if you miss a burn date the permit lapses. Back to square one.
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Reply #10 - Dec 29th, 2019 at 6:04pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 5:20pm:
Poor Barney confuses Greenpeace with the Greens Party.



where did he do that? He simply put up an article from greenpeace that showed why fires are rampant.


lee wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 5:20pm:
https://greens.org.au/nsw/policies/bushfire-risk-



greens policies mean nothing until they're in govt.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Not having a good day are you?

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Reply #11 - Dec 29th, 2019 at 6:19pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
where did he do that? He simply put up an article from greenpeace that showed why fires are rampant.



Greenpeace USA has nothing to do with Australia. Wink

John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
greens policies mean nothing until they're in govt.


Actually they do at council level. Wink

John Smith wrote on Dec 29th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
Not having a good day are you?



Excellent. You? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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