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Reply #60 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 1:59pm
 
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Republican Impeachment Report: Dems Have No Evidence On President Trump, No Crimes Committed


By  Sara Carter -December 2, 2019

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Top Republican lawmakers finalized a report Monday exonerating President Donald Trump from any wrongdoing regarding Ukraine just as Democrats with the House Judiciary Committee prepare to launch their own impeachment inquiry into the president, according to a report reviewed by SaraACarter.com.

Ranking Chairman Devin Nunes, with the House Intelligence Committee; Rep. Jim Jordan, ranking member and Ranking member of the House Oversight Committee and Rep. Michael McCaul, ranking member of the Committee on Foreign Affairs issued the report. It noted that the impeachment inquiry is nothing more than the Democrats ‘orchestrated campaign to upend our political system.”

President Trump departed Washington D.C. Monday to a NATO gathering in London and before he left he criticized House Democrats for moving forward with impeachment proceedings. The House Judiciary Committee is planning to hold its first hearing on impeachment Wednesday. Trump’s lawyers declined the invitation from Judiciary Chairman Jerrold Nadler to testify.

Nunes, Jordan and McCaul, noted in the report that despite all the legitimate concerns the President had regarding Ukraine corruption and the Bidens, there was absolutely no evidence presented during the hearings suggesting that Trump intended to withhold aid unless the Ukrainians investigated the situation.

“The evidence does not support the accusation that President Trump pressured President Zelensky to initiate investigations for the purpose of benefiting the President in the 2020 election,” the 110 page report states. “The evidence does not support the accusation that President Trump covered up the summary of his phone conversation with President Zelensky. The evidence does not support the accusation that President Trump obstructed the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry.”

“The unfortunate collateral damage of the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry is the harm done to bilateral U.S.-Ukraine relations, the fulfillment of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s desire to sow discoed within the United States, and the opportunity costs to the American people,” the report states.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-CA, was seeking to build a case against Trump, suggesting there was a ‘quid pro quo’ to withhold military aid from Ukraine unless the Ukrainian government investigated former Vice President Joe Biden’s son for his dealings with an alleged corrupt Ukrainian gas company. However, Schiff’s committee failed to prove Trump had taken action to withhold military aid from Ukraine. The Democrats attempted to pin what they hoped would be an impeachable crime on a phone call between Trump and President Volodymyr Zelensky. Schiff’s witnesses lacked any evidence that would suggest Trump asked Zelensky to investigate Biden’s son Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden was a paid board member of Ukrainian energy giant Burisma Holdings. His role in the company from 2014 through the Fall of 2015, has come under scrutiny. During the time, his father was charged with handling Ukraine and Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, “received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia,” as reported by John Solomon at The Hill.

The Republican report specifically notes the call summary provided by the White House of Trump’s conversation with Zelensky on July 25. The call, which was listened to by a number of witnesses who testified at the hearings, did not reveal any of the Democrats accusations of “quid pro quo” with regard to withholding military aid.

Further, Democrats assertions that Trump was asking Zelensky to investigate political rival Biden, are disputed by Republicans. They note the Democrats use of Trump’s phrase during the conversation “I would like you to do us a favor thought–” to present the appearance that Trump was pressuring Zelensky.

Republicans state that Democrats omit the latter part of the sentence saying the “full sentence shows that President Trump was not asking Zelensky to investigate his political rival, but rather asking him to assist in ‘getting to the bottom’ of potential Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election.

“The reading is supported by President Trump’s subsequent reference to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who had testified the day before about his findings, and to Attorney General William Barr, who had initiated an official inquiry into the origins of the U.S. government’s 2016 Russia investigation.

In fact, Zelensky, has repeated publicly that he felt no pressure to investigate Trump’s rival, Biden by the White House.

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Reply #61 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 2:01pm
 
Zelensky responded to reporters during the 74th U.N. General Assembly saying “I think you read everything.” He was speaking of the transcripts of the phone conversation released by the White House.

“So I think you can read text,” he said. “I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be involved to Democratic, open elections — elections of USA. No, you heard that we had, I think, good phone call. It was normal. We spoke about many things. An I — so I think, and you read it, that nobody pushed — pushed me.”

The detailed report’s findings:

President Trump has a deep seated, genuine and reasonable skepticism of Ukraine our to its history of pervasive corruption.
President Trump has a long-held skepticism of U.S. foreign assistance and believes Europe should pay its fair share for mutual defense
President Trump’s concerns about Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board are valid. The Obama State Department noted concerns about Hunter Biden’s relationship with Burisma in 2015 and 2016
There is indisputable evidence that senior Ukrainian government official opposed President Trump’s candidacy in the 2016 election and did so publicly. It has been publicly reported that a Democratic National Committee operative worked with Ukrainian officials, including the Ukrainian Embassy, to dig up dirt on then-candidate Trump.
The evidence does not establish that President Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.
The evidence does not support that President Trump withheld U.S. Security assistance to Ukraine for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.
The evidence does not support that President Trump covered up the substance of his telephone conversation with President Zelensky by restricting access to the call summary.
President Trump’s assertion of longstanding claims of executive privilege is a legitimate response to an unfair, abusive, and partisan process, and does not constitute obstruction of a legitimate impeachment inquiry.

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Reply #62 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 9:10pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 2:01pm:
Zelensky responded to reporters during the 74th U.N. General Assembly saying “I think you read everything.” He was speaking of the transcripts of the phone conversation released by the White House.

“So I think you can read text,” he said. “I’m sorry, but I don’t want to be involved to Democratic, open elections — elections of USA. No, you heard that we had, ....

President Trump has a deep seated, genuine and reasonable skepticism of Ukraine our to its history of pervasive corruption.
President Trump has a long-held skepticism of U.S. foreign assistance and believes Europe should pay its fair share for mutual defense
President Trump’s concerns about Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board are valid. The Obama State Department noted concerns about Hunter Biden’s relationship with Burisma in 2015 and 2016
There is indisputable evidence that senior Ukrainian government official opposed President Trump’s candidacy in the 2016 election and did so publicly. It has been publicly reported that a Democratic National Committee operative worked with Ukrainian officials, including the Ukrainian Embassy, to dig up dirt on then-candidate Trump.
The evidence does not establish that President Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.
The evidence does not support that President Trump withheld U.S. Security assistance to Ukraine for the purpose of pressuring Uk.... Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.
The evidence does not support that President Trump covered up the substance of his telephone conversation with President Zelensky by restricting access to the call summary.
President Trump’s assertion of longstanding claims of executive privilege is a legitimate response to an unfair, abusive, and partisan process, and does not constitute obstruction of a legitimate impeachment inquiry.

Read Full Report


https://saraacarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/mime-attachment.pdf


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President Trump has a deep seated, genuine and reasonable skepticism of Ukraine our to its history of pervasive corruption.


The laughable Ukraine conspiracy  theory is a joke deliberately spread by the Russians to cover their own tracks.

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President Trump has a long-held skepticism of U.S. foreign assistance and believes Europe should pay its fair share for mutual defense


Not relevant to anything.


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President Trump’s concerns about Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board are valid. The Obama State Department noted concerns about Hunter Biden’s relationship with Burisma in 2015 and 2016


No relevance where Hunter is on the scale between fully guilty of something to fully innocent, he didn't make Trump take the action that he so obviously did.

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The evidence does not support that President Trump withheld U.S. Security assistance to Ukraine for the purpose of pressuring Ukraine to investigate Burisma Holdings, Vice President Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, or Ukrainian influence in the 2016 election.


Really ? Hunter being with the company was an accidental surprise ? A coincidence ? Nobody is dumb enough to believe that carp.

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The evidence does not support that President Trump covered up the substance of his telephone conversation with President Zelensky by restricting access to the call summary.


No but someone was sure keen to hide the evidence. Wonder why ???

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President Trump’s assertion of longstanding claims of executive privilege is a legitimate response to an unfair, abusive, and partisan process, and does not constitute obstruction of a legitimate impeachment inquiry.


The enquiry is more fair than the Previous impeachment investigations, Trumps actions from the beginning have had guilty written all over them. His obstruction of justice is yet another impeachable action. A recent court result was damning on his extension of privilege to his staff was called out as a joke. This combined with his refusal to release documents is a clear case of obstruction of justice.

Had Trump been innocent he would let the people who know he is innocent testify not block them.

If the documentation supported his side of the story then he would be able to release it. OH sorry he doesn't have a side to the story.

Trump and his team from the beginning have argued about the process, about the Bidens, about Ukraine interference in elections about second hand witnesses while blocking the first hand ones, The want to find the whistleblower when everything he / she said has proven correct. You never see the Republicans argue substance about the case itself, they simply can't they have nothing. They have nothing because Trump is guilty and they all know it.

Every witness told much the same story. Juliani and Sonderlan with his mate running around in the Ukraine none of them belonger there ? Clearing Out the Ambassador because she was too tough on corruption ? Holding up the Funds until he was aware that he had been caught. Mulvaney admits to Quid Pro Quo. The partial memo of the call "Do me a favor" etc. The retrospective attempt to create a reason for holding the money ? It goes on and all pointing to the only conclusion the reason the republican will talk about anything but the facts themself.
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Reply #63 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 9:34pm
 
Mulvaney - Guilty as charged.

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Reply #64 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:34pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 9:34pm:
Mulvaney - Guilty as charged.



Well yes, but is that really fair? Mr Trump hardly knows Mulvaney. A minor staffer - at best.
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Reply #65 - Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:48pm
 
Take an "unbiased" look for a change, there is nothing to the charges. Sometimes people I disagree with or actually dislike have been falsely accused and I will support them against those charges. There is something sorely lacking in the judgement of the Left and that is a belief in right and wrong. In its place all I see is that the ends justify the means!

https://canadafreepress.com/article/thanksgiving-2019-democrat-style
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Reply #66 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 8:26am
 


Biden to Drop Out After President Trump Demands Testimony at Senate Impeachment Trial
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Reply #67 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 8:59am
 


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Reply #68 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 10:36am
 


Geraldo warns impeachment is a 'disastrous idea' for Dems
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Reply #69 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 10:51am
 


Rush Limbaugh on impeachment: We are watching pure, raw hatred
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Reply #70 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 11:40am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 7th, 2019 at 8:26am:


Biden to Drop Out After President Trump Demands Testimony at Senate Impeachment Trial


I sometimes wonder at the thought process behind making stupid posts ?
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Reply #71 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 11:48am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Dec 3rd, 2019 at 11:48pm:
Take an "unbiased" look for a change, there is nothing to the charges. Sometimes people I disagree with or actually dislike have been falsely accused and I will support them against those charges. There is something sorely lacking in the judgement of the Left and that is a belief in right and wrong. In its place all I see is that the ends justify the means!

https://canadafreepress.com/article/thanksgiving-2019-democrat-style


Did you notice how biased this article was how little fact it contained or or how much or the statments made were wrong ?

Sorry but little value here unless your a biased hack living in Trump's fantasy land.
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Reply #72 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 11:52am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 7th, 2019 at 10:51am:


Rush Limbaugh on impeachment: We are watching pure, raw hatred


Difficult to understand why the right are so desperate to trash their own reputations lying to cover for a dishonest corrupt President.
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Reply #73 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 12:01pm
 
Trump is GUILTY of....

Not being controlled by the shadow government deep state.
Not being controlled by the cia and fbi.
Not being controlled by the thriving corrupted Reserve.

Being loved by hard working honest Americans.

End of. 

And every deranged tool that supports this goat rodeo impeachment steels the resolve...

Trump 2020....lock n load ..power to the people.
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Reply #74 - Dec 7th, 2019 at 12:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 7th, 2019 at 11:40am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 7th, 2019 at 8:26am:


Biden to Drop Out After President Trump Demands Testimony at Senate Impeachment Trial


I sometimes wonder at the thought process behind making stupid posts ?


I know,

you've proven yourself to be a clueless imbecile on so many occasions .. does that comfort you ?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1575452084/59#59

Dnarever wrote on Dec 5th, 2019 at 7:45pm:
All four Legal scholars agreed that Trump should be impeached if he did what he did, even the republicans scholar.

Then the Republican supporting legal scholar argued that because the extortion was unsuccessful there was no crime. (Fail).

Also argued that the obstruction had to go to the courts and be confirmed for obstruction to be possible - deeply flawed argument, the Republicans only argument. But of course making that argument is conceding that Trump is guilty. (Fail)



absolute lie ,

all 4 " legal scholars " are democrat voters .. 3 totally HATE Trump and have written articles since 2017 on impeaching Trump ..total Bias ,

and one of them , Jonathan Turley , did NOT say that at all ..



Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor, cautioned House lawmakers on Dec. 4 against impeaching President Donald Trump. Speaking during the first day of public hearings by the Judiciary Committee in the impeachment inquiry into Trump, Turley said that to impeach Trump based on the current evidence “would be to expose every future president to the same type of inchoate impeachment.” The focus of the Judiciary hearing, which came after the House Intelligence Committee held hearings in late November, is to define the grounds for a presidential impeachment. The impeachment inquiry has revolved around a July 25 phone call in which Trump asked the president of Ukraine to investigate former vice president and 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.

everyone is actually stupider for reading your posts Jimpuddleduck ,

you are a simple minded liar repeating fake news .. dismissed .

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