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Senate Impeachment Trial
Nov 24th, 2019 at 9:37am
 


Trump supports an impeachment trial, GOP being able to call witnesses
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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 9:43am
 
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/in-trump-impeachment-trial-senate-republicans-c...

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In Trump impeachment trial, Senate Republicans could turn tables on Dems


By Brooke Singman | Fox News

Trump, supporters in Congress may be coming to terms with Senate impeachment trial
With impeachment all but a certainty in the House, leading Republicans agree with White House officials that there should be a full trial and not a motion to dismiss; Kevin Corke reports from the White House.

House Democrats are entering what may be the final phase of their impeachment inquiry, after wrapping up a spree of hearings where witnesses tied top officials -- including President Trump -- to efforts to pressure Ukraine on political investigations while military aid was being withheld.

But the tables could turn, should the House approve impeachment articles and trigger a trial in the Republican-controlled Senate. There, Trump’s allies are already indicating they will look more closely at allegations involving Democrats.

"Frankly, I want a trial," Trump declared Friday on “Fox & Friends.”


There’s a reason for that.

Democrats have controlled everything during marathon proceedings in the House, frustrating GOP attempts to call witnesses pertaining to the matters Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate -- specifically, the Bidens’ business dealings in that country and Kiev’s alleged interference in the 2016 election.

But that changes on the Senate side, where Republicans have the majority and Trump allies chair key committees. Already, they’ve signaled their interest in exploring issues that House Democrats glossed over during their hearings.

On Thursday, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., penned a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo requesting the release of any documents related to contacts between former Vice President Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, and to a meeting between son Hunter Biden’s business partner and former Secretary of State John Kerry.

This pertains to questions surrounding the elder Biden’s role in pressing for the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor who had been investigating the natural gas firm Burisma, where Hunter Biden served on the board. Biden denies any wrongdoing, but Republicans have pressed for details throughout the impeachment process, in a bid to show that even though Trump’s pressure campaign on Kiev triggered the impeachment inquiry, his concern was legitimate.

On the House side, Republicans likewise encountered challenges digging into allegations of Ukraine interference in the 2016 election. While Trump has sought to press an unsupported theory that Ukraine was tied to Democratic National Committee hacking, GOP lawmakers have sought details on other issues that are more grounded in published reports -- like whether former DNC consultant Alexandra Chalupa was improperly digging up dirt on Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and others with Ukraine’s help at the time.

Democrats did not grant GOP requests to call Biden's son Hunter, Chalupa and others on the House side.

But while it’s unclear if Senate Republicans will at least attempt to call these and other witnesses, high-ranking members are showing their early interest in exploring the issues.

Aside from the Graham letter, Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wisc., and Finance Committee Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, have penned a letter to the head of the National Archives and Records Administration to request records of multiple White House meetings that took place in 2016 involving Obama administration officials, Ukrainian government representatives and Democratic National Committee officials.
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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:29pm
 
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Trump Will Not Be Impeached


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President Donald Trump makes his way to board Air Force One before departing from Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland on Nov. 20, 2019. (Mandel Ngan / Getty Images)

By Wally Moran
Published November 22, 2019 at 9:40am

The Democrats will not vote for the articles of impeachment. Take this to the bank, it’s just not going to happen. The Democrats are not that foolish. The Republican Senate will kill any articles that arrive.

However, as noted in Thursday’s news, it won’t be a sudden death on arrival but after an actual trial. And that will be at the request of the White House.

That’s right. The White House wants a trial on the merits of the case if the House votes for articles of impeachment.


Think about it. If the Senate has an impeachment trial, Republicans can subpoena every single witness denied them by Adam Schiff — Hunter Biden, the whistleblower, Adam Schiff himself.

The Democrats may be annoying, but they aren’t completely stupid.


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They aren’t going to give the Republicans the opportunity to… ah, I’m getting ahead of myself here.

So why, you ask, would the Democrats pursue this current line of attack, impeachment, against President Trump?

Because they hope it will damage President Trump’s election prospects. They are hoping the damage that they can inflict with this asinine “impeachment inquiry” will tarnish Trump’s re-election chances by turning independents against him.

Thus far, polling indicates that isn’t happening, but that’s not my point here. There’s a second reason that Pelosi won’t file articles of impeachment: the Democrat primaries.

If there is a Senate trial, Democratic senators will be required to attend. No one knows this better than Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and he is most certainly prepared to make the most of the opportunity.

On top of issuing subpoenas to all the people Republicans haven’t been permitted to call, McConnell can see to it that the process drags on — and on — and on…

Why does this matter?

Answer me this — what do you think that Sens. Warren, Booker and Sanders will do if they are forced to leave the campaign trail to attend an impeachment trial? What do you think their supporters will do?

If you thought the fuss over Hillary’s backstabbing of Sanders in 2016 was nasty, think of what the supporters of these two will do if their candidates are sidelined and unable to campaign. And who would the big winner here be?

Why, none other than the establishment candidate Joe Biden.

Such a move, two primaries in a row, could fracture the Democratic Party forever. Even Pelosi isn’t that stupid — she well knows the danger. That’s why last week she quietly floated the idea that the Democrats would not necessarily vote for articles against Trump.

So what’s going on?

My take on this is that the Democrats are going to do everything they can to make Trump look bad through these hearings, and then choose not to vote articles of impeachment. They will state, with all appropriate gravitas, that they will leave it up to the American people, “now that the facts are out,” to make a decision in November.


This way they get to wreak maximum havoc on Trump, they get to protect their nomination process, and they get to hand the decision to the American people, making themselves look like heroes.

There is no possibility of losing anything with this approach, since they know they cannot get a guilty verdict in the Senate, and will, in fact, be made to look very bad if it goes that far.

There is one very bizarre possibility should the Democrats put this to a vote (with the intention of losing that vote). But before I get to that, there is one advantage to Democrats in actually holding this vote.

Vulnerable Democrats, those running in districts that Trump won, will be able to vote against impeachment. This will keep their constituents happy with them, their excuse being “let’s leave this decision about Trump to the people.”

If enough Democrats vote this way (and they will, it’ll all be thought out beforehand), the Democrats lose the vote, as planned. The progressives are happy — they got their impeachment and will now be strongly motivated to vote Trump out in the general. The vulnerable Democrats will have protected their campaigns. Pelosi has avoided the dangers inherent in a Senate trial.

Everyone is happy.

But here’s where it could get bizarre.

House Republicans vote for impeachment to force the issue into the Senate just in case the Democrats choose not to vote in favor of it. Why? To get all the information out, the information that Schiff has denied House Republicans the opportunity to present.

That would be their excuse — not that they want Trump to be impeached, but that the American people deserve the truth that the Democrats are hiding from them — that holding a trial in the Senate is the only way to get this information out.

Would that not stand a few people on their heads?

I want the popcorn franchise for this show.
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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:42pm
 
This could all be correct. It is the reason that the Democrats should subpoena the relevant witnesses and documentation.

The irrelevant witnesses that the Trump supporters want to use to divert away from Trump would be obviously empty threats compared to the real witnesses and real documentation being available.

At the moment the evidence is in that would convince any reasonable person of Trumps guilt but obviously that isn't enough. They need to slam the final nails into the coffin. They need to call the primary witnesses and then hold them in contempt. Yes put the bstds in prison if they either don't show up or tell lies when they do.

They should not go to the Senate till the senate are ready to dispatch the rubbish named Trump.
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Reply #4 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 6:20am
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/theres-no-reason-to-call-me-as-a-witnes...

“There’s No Reason to Call Me as a Witness!” – SCHIFF SQUIRMS When Asked About Testifying Before the US Senate (VIDEO)


by Jim Hoft November 24, 2019 183 Comments

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Adam Schiff went on Meet the Press on Sunday morning to discuss his failed week of sham impeachment hearings.

Chuck Todd: You should be a witness. They may want to call you.

Adam Sciff: Well, look. If the Senate wants to call me as a witness, then they pretty much made the decision not to take this process seriously. I’m not a fact witness. I was the chairman of one of the committees doing the investigation. I’m not in the shoes of a special counsel. I don’t work for the Justice Department. All I can relate is what the witnesses said in the deposition and in the open hearings. And that’s no reason to call me as a witness.

Of course, Shifty Schiff omitted that he lied about meeting with the anti-Trump whistleblower Eric Ciaramella before he filed his complaint against President Trump.

So Adam Schiff is a fact witness despite what he tells shameless Chuck Todd.





Schiff On More Public Hearings: 'Don't Foreclose The Possibility' | Meet The Press | NBC News
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Reply #5 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 6:24am
 


Steve Bannon: Schiff did Trump a great service with impeachment hearings
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'IT'S A TOTAL MISUSE OF POWER' - Brave Rep Stefanik Roast Adams Schiff Alive
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Trump 'will be trialled' following impeachment hearings



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Sky News Contributor Bruce Wolpe says he believes "there will be a trial" for US President Donald Trump following impeachment hearings.
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Reply #8 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:00am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 7:57am:


Trump 'will be trialled' following impeachment hearings



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I disagree - Not unless the Democrats are totally insane.
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Reply #9 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:09am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:00am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 7:57am:


Trump 'will be trialled' following impeachment hearings



Sky News Australia
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Sky News Contributor Bruce Wolpe says he believes "there will be a trial" for US President Donald Trump following impeachment hearings.
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I disagree - Not unless the Democrats are totally insane.


well we both know how insane the Dems are , so likelihood 100 %

which is good because Republicans can call any witnesses they want , including both Bidens and Schiff
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Reply #10 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:13am
 
Trump said that he could murder someone in Central park and not lose any votes over it

How can a human construct such a dynamic

You would have to be superhuman to establish yourself in such a category

Realising this as a factual statement

They could not possibly be a worse scenario then trying to convince real America
About hearsay evidence with all the intrigue of the Ukraine Russia fake news
Of the Ukraine Russia oil pipeline intrigue
Of joe biden son being part of this drama
Of servers in Russia supposedly holding information about emails
Of various members of various branches of government in Washington
Being complicit and supporting one side or the other
Of the media reporting whatever it is they want to report to act as clickbait

If you were an extremely intelligent person and waded through all this evidence you would become confused and develop a migraine

So if trump isn't going to go down for murdering someone in Central park
And he's not

What sort of idiotic moron would try to make trump go down over this pile of murky confusing conflicted uninterpretable nonsense

All it's going to happen is that the democrats are going to come out looking like resentful pedantic loser s
And trump is going to have a platform to address the nation about the evils of the establishment and the mainstream media

as per usual the democrats have not thought this through
And will come out with egg on their face
And the strong powerful influential Donald shall move on to another 4 years
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Reply #11 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:56am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:13am:
Trump said that he could murder someone in Central park and not lose any votes over it

How can a human construct such a dynamic

You would have to be superhuman to establish yourself in such a category

Realising this as a factual statement

They could not possibly be a worse scenario then trying to convince real America
About hearsay evidence with all the intrigue of the Ukraine Russia fake news
Of the Ukraine Russia oil pipeline intrigue
Of joe biden son being part of this drama
Of servers in Russia supposedly holding information about emails
Of various members of various branches of government in Washington
Being complicit and supporting one side or the other
Of the media reporting whatever it is they want to report to act as clickbait

If you were an extremely intelligent person and waded through all this evidence you would become confused and develop a migraine

So if trump isn't going to go down for murdering someone in Central park
And he's not

What sort of idiotic moron would try to make trump go down over this pile of murky confusing conflicted uninterpretable nonsense

All it's going to happen is that the democrats are going to come out looking like resentful pedantic loser s
And trump is going to have a platform to address the nation about the evils of the establishment and the mainstream media

as per usual the democrats have not thought this through
And will come out with egg on their face
And the strong powerful influential Donald shall move on to another 4 years


I agree, the demon-RATS have painted themselves into a political corner......damned if they do......damned if they don't.

Either way their once formidable political war machine has self-destructed, abused itself & the American People, & reduced itself into a carton full of tinker-toys!  Grin Grin Grin Grin


BTW......Impeachment 101




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Reply #12 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 9:16am
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:00am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 7:57am:


Trump 'will be trialled' following impeachment hearings



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Sky News Contributor Bruce Wolpe says he believes "there will be a trial" for US President Donald Trump following impeachment hearings.
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I disagree - Not unless the Democrats are totally insane.


They proved what Trump did.  There is at least grounds for one.
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Reply #13 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 9:58am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 9:16am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:00am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 7:57am:


Trump 'will be trialled' following impeachment hearings



Sky News Australia
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Sky News Contributor Bruce Wolpe says he believes "there will be a trial" for US President Donald Trump following impeachment hearings.
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I disagree - Not unless the Democrats are totally insane.


They proved what Trump did.  There is at least grounds for one.


even kanganon agrees , so yes we are going to the Senate Impeachment Trial Next ..

first witnesses include , Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and Adam Schiff

" trust the plan Q "
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Reply #14 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 10:19am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 9:58am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 9:16am:
SerialBrain9 wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 8:00am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 7:57am:


Trump 'will be trialled' following impeachment hearings



Sky News Australia
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Sky News Contributor Bruce Wolpe says he believes "there will be a trial" for US President Donald Trump following impeachment hearings.
Category
News & Politics


I disagree - Not unless the Democrats are totally insane.


They proved what Trump did.  There is at least grounds for one.


even kanganon agrees , so yes we are going to the Senate Impeachment Trial Next ..

first witnesses include , Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and Adam Schiff

" trust the plan Q "


How's the plan going?

FISA Report turned out to be nothing, yet another let down.  How many times will you trust, and be burnt, before you question the plan?
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