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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #510 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 6:50am

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 9:59pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:

Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?

Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.

I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd. Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?

Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result. You have a mind - if that's the word I want - like Bwian's. You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.

In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

It's not the point though.

Frank said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't.

You didn't say anything about who the President is.

You were talking about who won at the ballot box.

Hillary Clinton won at the ballot box, by a country mile.

Why did you lie and say that it was the alleged child rapist?

I'm curious.

I can see you are clinging to the S-bend again, Turd, unflushable, hanging on against the flushing tide of reason. Well, that's what you are, that's what you do.

He is the president because he won the election.
The election is decided by voting - the 'ballot box".
The voting - the "ballot box" - has clear rules for counting - counting what's in the "ballot box".
The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.
Trump won the vote - at the "ballot" box" in accordancee to those known rules
So Trump is Prez of the US in accordance to the voting rules - the "ballot box". i

Good to see you still trying, old boy. That's the Aussie spirit.

If at first you don't succeed, try and try again.

We'll have you assimilated in no time, eh?

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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #511 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 6:55am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 6:16am:

Oh the Donald definitely did not get as many votes
And yet he still won the game

Imagine you are watching a football final
And one team has all the possession
They have the ball in their hands most of the time
They have all the crowd behind them cheering

And yet they don't convert that into scoreboard tally

And the other team are starved of possession
But through brilliant strategy
And especially

Paying attention
They convert every opportunity 2A score
And emerge victorious

That's a story of glory
Trump story is only more glorious taking into account that he did not win the popular vote
Clinton story is even more of a failure taking into account that she won the popular vote
But left her supporters in a state of emotional distress

She did not pay attention

she went to the wrong suburbs of Florida and preached her identity politics to the Mexicans and African Americans
She was paying so little attention she did not realise that the real Americans in other suburbs would decide the vote

She thought she was home and hosed in Massachusetts and did not bother to campaign there. This is an example of wilful blindness

The Donald paid attention
And conducted his campaign with surgical precision

This alone proves the Donald is far from the babbling buffoon
That the left portray him as

He hijacked the republican party against their will
He strategically paid attention to where he needed to campaign
And here emerged glorious and holding the trophy and the keys to the oval office at the end

A story worth studying for at least 10 years

Now the Donald realises he is a rich fat and lazy man in some ways
So how can he get another 4 years
The Donald has put his supercomputer of a brain to work
He has taunted the left and forced them to play identity politics
And hand over their party to the radical activists

Now the Donald has strategically maneuvered himself
So that he will come up against Pocahontas
Crazy Bernie
Or sleepy Joe

I think the Donald must have a good giggle to himself at night in bed
About how the democratic party has become putty in his hands

First he takes over the republican party
Now he appears to have taken over the democratic party
Has there ever been any one so persuasive and dominant
And for all the undecided voters
He's just so damned entertaining
No one will want him to go at the end of the year
They love the big fella
They love his stand-up comedy and his wit.

Can you imagine crazy Bernie Pocahontas or sleepy joe doing stand up comedy

Cheesy

Mr Trump is the first president not to speak at the Annual Press Correspondent's Dinner. Why?

Because you have to give a self-lampooning speech. Don't do it, sir.

That's the only advice Mr Trump's ever taken from his aides.

Don't even try to do comedy.

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Reply #512 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 8:53am

Why do you think CNN and MSNBC are suddenly making billion-dollar profits
why do you think the mainstream media gave Donald trump 5 billion dollars worth of free advertising
Why do you think they run non-stop Donald trump on these networks

Could it be that they like the ratings

Could it be the people are watching

And you denying the people watch mainstream media mainly for the entertainment value

Trump is entertaining dude
People can't stop watching the big fella

The apprentice was the top rating reality TV show in the United States
People just can't take their eyes off the Donald

Now if the democrats were smart they would try to sabotage that narrative
Instead they impeached the big fella
And give him even more attention
More publicity
And more of a chance to dominate the airwaves
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

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Reply #513 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:23am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 8:53am:

The apprentice was the top rating reality TV show in the United States

"The Apprentice flamed out quickly as a ratings juggernaut.

"Just two years after it exploded on to TV, the show’s June 2006 season finale attracted just 11.3 million viewers — a more than 60 percent audience collapse.

"To put it in terms Mr. Trump might better appreciate these days, that’s a Jeb! Bush–level free fall.

"The ratings decline was so pronounced, NBC cut back production of the show (from two cycles per year to just one) and then abandoned the original format".

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Reply #514 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:28am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.

That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'?? Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??

The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.

HYPOTHETICAL GWEG

what if the republican nominee Trump....wins the BALLOT BOX vote..

but loses the electoral college vote to the Democrat..

what will you do?? will you cheer on their system will you except all those in favor of Trump bitching and complaining and wailing endlessly for the next 4 years..

on every thread.....

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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #515 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:32am

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.

That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'?? Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??

The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.

HYPOTHETICAL GWEG

what if the republican nominee Trump....wins the BALLOT BOX vote..

but loses the electoral college vote to the Democrat..

what will you do??

If that happens I will say that America didn't get the President they wanted.

If Trump wins the popular vote, it means that he's the person the US voters want as their President.

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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #516 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:34am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:23am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 8:53am:

The apprentice was the top rating reality TV show in the United States

"The Apprentice flamed out quickly as a ratings juggernaut.

"Just two years after it exploded on to TV, the show’s June 2006 season finale attracted just 11.3 million viewers — a more than 60 percent audience collapse.

"To put it in terms Mr. Trump might better appreciate these days, that’s a Jeb! Bush–level free fall.

"The ratings decline was so pronounced, NBC cut back production of the show (from two cycles per year to just one) and then abandoned the original format".

Grin

"Trump claimed that The Celebrity Apprentice was 'the No. 1 show on television,' before downgrading his fib to insist that it was, at the very least, the highest-rated show on Monday nights (also false).

"In actuality, the series landed at a No. 67 spot in the TV rankings."

Grin

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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #517 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:47am

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.

That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'?? Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??

The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.

HYPOTHETICAL GWEG

what if the republican nominee Trump....wins the BALLOT BOX vote..

but loses the electoral college vote to the Democrat..

what will you do?? will you cheer on their system will you except all those in favor of Trump bitching and complaining and wailing endlessly for the next 4 years..

on every thread.....

My beef isn't with their system, cods.

The electoral college decides who becomes President - everybody knows and accepts that.

Trump won the US electoral college, and he's their legitimate President.

I've never said anything to the contrary.

My beef is with people who say that he's the President because of his popularity - that's a lie.

Hillary Clinton received 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so she was clearly way more popular than him.

And the funny thing is, she was one of the most unpopular candidates in US history.

So, Trump is even less popular than the most unpopular Grin

He won the election according to the rules, and he is the legitimate President.

However, he's not the President that the US voters wanted.

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Reply #518 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:47am:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.

That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'?? Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??

The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.

HYPOTHETICAL GWEG

what if the republican nominee Trump....wins the BALLOT BOX vote..

but loses the electoral college vote to the Democrat..

what will you do?? will you cheer on their system will you except all those in favor of Trump bitching and complaining and wailing endlessly for the next 4 years..

on every thread.....

My beef isn't with their system, cods.

The electoral college decides who becomes President - everybody knows and accepts that.

Trump won the US electoral college, and he's their legitimate President.

I've never said anything to the contrary.

My beef is with people who say that he's the President because of his popularity - that's a lie.

Hillary Clinton received 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so she was clearly way more popular than him.

And the funny thing is, she was one of the most unpopular candidates in US history.

So, Trump is even less popular than the most unpopular Grin

He won the election according to the rules, and he is the legitimate President.

However, he's not the President that the US voters wanted.

However given what he's doing. Which is lifting millions out of poverty and turning around the economy from a "managed decline". He should be the most popular President - ever!

Capitalism does and has done more for the working man than the communist system achieved! Fact!

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Reply #519 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:23am

Richdude wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:12am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:47am:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.

That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'?? Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??

The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.

HYPOTHETICAL GWEG

what if the republican nominee Trump....wins the BALLOT BOX vote..

but loses the electoral college vote to the Democrat..

what will you do?? will you cheer on their system will you except all those in favor of Trump bitching and complaining and wailing endlessly for the next 4 years..

on every thread.....

My beef isn't with their system, cods.

The electoral college decides who becomes President - everybody knows and accepts that.

Trump won the US electoral college, and he's their legitimate President.

I've never said anything to the contrary.

My beef is with people who say that he's the President because of his popularity - that's a lie.

Hillary Clinton received 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so she was clearly way more popular than him.

And the funny thing is, she was one of the most unpopular candidates in US history.

So, Trump is even less popular than the most unpopular Grin

He won the election according to the rules, and he is the legitimate President.

However, he's not the President that the US voters wanted.

However given what he's doing. Which is lifting millions out of poverty and turning around the economy from a "managed decline". He should be the most popular President - ever!

He isn't, though.

Trump is the most unpopular President since Gerald Ford to run for re-election.

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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #520 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:47am:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:43pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:

The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.

That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'?? Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??

The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.

HYPOTHETICAL GWEG

what if the republican nominee Trump....wins the BALLOT BOX vote..

but loses the electoral college vote to the Democrat..

what will you do?? will you cheer on their system will you except all those in favor of Trump bitching and complaining and wailing endlessly for the next 4 years..

on every thread.....

My beef isn't with their system, cods.

The electoral college decides who becomes President - everybody knows and accepts that.

Trump won the US electoral college, and he's their legitimate President.

I've never said anything to the contrary.

My beef is with people who say that he's the President because of his popularity - that's a lie.

Hillary Clinton received 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so she was clearly way more popular than him.

And the funny thing is, she was one of the most unpopular candidates in US history.

So, Trump is even less popular than the most unpopular Grin

He won the election according to the rules, and he is the legitimate President.

However, he's not the President that the US voters wanted.

Only 139 million people voted in 2016.......there are 250+ million voter-age eligible Americans.

Therefore, a small amount, a mere 3 million, is like a grain of sand.

Popularity goes far far beyond the number of voters who cast votes, especially in a vast adult population the size of America's (over 10 times that of Australia).

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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #521 - Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:38am

Trashy_Pierre wrote on Jan 24^th, 2020 at 10:32am: