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Reply #495 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:05pm
 
The old boy has always upheld democracy, Greggery.

Colonialism ended far too soon, no?
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Reply #496 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:08pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:13pm:
The more pressure on thump in this the less likely that he will continue to do it.

I think the Democrats missed an opportunity in their negotiation for witnesses and documents with the new information included. They could easily have threatened to re impeach to get all these concessions in the House and then really do it as there is still plenty of appropriate charges available. They were crazy for not impeaching over obstruction from the Muller report just for a start, the charge that his mate went to prison and Trump is the co defendant.

Yes Trump really is unfit for office - always was right from day one of his campaign.



Nonsense on stilts - except the last bit. You losers simply cannot believe that he won the arguments at the ballot box. Or that he will win again.  But then you lot said exactly the same deranged nonsense about Dubya and Reagan before him and all the other Republican presidents.
You lefty bozos simply cannot abide by the democratic process if the masses do not give you the golden apple. You are vindictive and resentful to your very core and essence.





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But then you lot said exactly the same deranged nonsense about Dubya and Reagan before him and all the other Republican presidents.


Nup - not a word against either being elected. Though Dubya was an embarrassment especially with Johnny wrapped around his legs hanging onto his zipper and his fake Fox News inspired Iraq war.

Funny thing was that Dubya brought in the notion of providing aid to the enemy and then fell fowl of it himself. The coalition of the Swilling managed to destabilize Iraq which was the best support we could have given to the terrorists. In the end the coalition managed to create ISIS yep - we made the environment that they flourished in and grew. There were no WMD's they lied simple as that.

All the involved world Leaders. Dubya, Johnny and Blair went to war based on obvious lies.
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Reply #497 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:10pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

The US and UK are a different case both with Turnouts so poor that the election winner in many cases doesn't really have a mandate for anything. There are cases where the election can be won with something like 20% of the possible vote. Yes governments can be elected with 80% of the populsation not supporting them seems crazy to us but some of us want to go the same way.



Waffle.


Every party and candidate knows what the rules of elections are in each country and each electorate and so the various candidates mount a campaign to win the election according to the rules, NOT merely the popular vote if that is not the decider.


The turds of this world, and the mongs, will bellyache for ever when they lose. Their rancorous, bitter, entitled little egos cannot fathom how they could ever be not preferred so they come up with all sorts of 'yeah-buts'.






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Reply #498 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:11pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:10pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

The US and UK are a different case both with Turnouts so poor that the election winner in many cases doesn't really have a mandate for anything. There are cases where the election can be won with something like 20% of the possible vote. Yes governments can be elected with 80% of the populsation not supporting them seems crazy to us but some of us want to go the same way.



Waffle.


Every party and candidate knows what the rules of elections are in each country and each electorate and so the various candidates mount a campaign to win the election according to the rules, NOT merely the popular vote if that is not the decider.


The turds of this world, and the mongs, will bellyache for ever when they lose. Their rancorous, bitter, entitled little egos cannot fathom how they could ever be not preferred so they come up with all sorts of 'yeah-buts'.



You said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't - Clinton did.

Why did you lie?

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Reply #499 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:59pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.



It's not the point though.

Frank said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't.



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Reply #500 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:59pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.



It's not the point though.

Frank said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't.





You didn't say anything about who the President is.

You were talking about who won at the ballot box.

Hillary Clinton won at the ballot box, by a country mile.

Why did you lie and say that it was the alleged child rapist?

I'm curious.
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Reply #501 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:15pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

The US and UK are a different case both with Turnouts so poor that the election winner in many cases doesn't really have a mandate for anything. There are cases where the election can be won with something like 20% of the possible vote. Yes governments can be elected with 80% of the populsation not supporting them seems crazy to us but some of us want to go the same way.



A good argument for compulsory voting,  ducky.   Keep at it.

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Reply #502 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:16pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

The US and UK are a different case both with Turnouts so poor that the election winner in many cases doesn't really have a mandate for anything. There are cases where the election can be won with something like 20% of the possible vote. Yes governments can be elected with 80% of the populsation not supporting them seems crazy to us but some of us want to go the same way.



A good argument for compulsory voting,  ducky.   Keep at it.



The alleged child rapist lost at the ballot box.

Why did you lie and say that he won?

I'm curious.

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Reply #503 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:17pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:10pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

The US and UK are a different case both with Turnouts so poor that the election winner in many cases doesn't really have a mandate for anything. There are cases where the election can be won with something like 20% of the possible vote. Yes governments can be elected with 80% of the populsation not supporting them seems crazy to us but some of us want to go the same way.



Waffle.


Every party and candidate knows what the rules of elections are in each country and each electorate and so the various candidates mount a campaign to win the election according to the rules, NOT merely the popular vote if that is not the decider.


The turds of this world, and the mongs, will bellyache for ever when they lose. Their rancorous, bitter, entitled little egos cannot fathom how they could ever be not preferred so they come up with all sorts of 'yeah-buts'.



You said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't - Clinton did.

Why did you lie?



Not a lie - probable that he does not understand the difference. He has just equated winning the election as winning at the ballot box. Clearly wrong but I doubt it is a lie.
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Reply #504 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:19pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:17pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:10pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.

The US and UK are a different case both with Turnouts so poor that the election winner in many cases doesn't really have a mandate for anything. There are cases where the election can be won with something like 20% of the possible vote. Yes governments can be elected with 80% of the populsation not supporting them seems crazy to us but some of us want to go the same way.



Waffle.


Every party and candidate knows what the rules of elections are in each country and each electorate and so the various candidates mount a campaign to win the election according to the rules, NOT merely the popular vote if that is not the decider.


The turds of this world, and the mongs, will bellyache for ever when they lose. Their rancorous, bitter, entitled little egos cannot fathom how they could ever be not preferred so they come up with all sorts of 'yeah-buts'.



You said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't - Clinton did.

Why did you lie?



Not a lie - probable that he does not understand the difference. He has just equated winning the election as winning at the ballot box. Clearly wrong but I doubt it is a lie.
 


Yes.

It was stupidity and ignorance, rather than lying.

I stand corrected, and retract the accusation of lying.

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Reply #505 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:59pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:55pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:27pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Who is going to beat Trump at the November elections? Bern? Pochahontas?


Nobody.

From November 2016 I've been saying that he will be re-elected in 2020.

What part of that don't you understand?

He'll lose the popular vote by more than 4,000,000 votes though.



I don't understand the part that you ignored, Turd.  Why are the Dems and Turds discrediting themselves if they know that they will not succeed with the impeachment and Trump will be re-elected?


Popular vote- No US president has ever been elected on the basis of the popular vote. Nor a UK or Australian PM, for that matter. Yet you keep repeating this crap knowing that it is meaningless for the final result.  You have a mind - if that's the word I want  - like Bwian's.  You make him proud. To the rest, to thinking people, you are a ridiculous clown.




In Australia over 95% of the time the party elected gets the popular vote.



It's not the point though.

Frank said that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

He didn't.





You didn't say anything about who the President is.

You were talking about who won at the ballot box.

Hillary Clinton won at the ballot box, by a country mile.

Why did you lie and say that it was the alleged child rapist?

I'm curious.



I can see you are clinging to the S-bend again, Turd, unflushable, hanging on against the flushing tide of reason. Well, that's what you are, that's what you do.




He is the president because he won the election.
The election is decided by voting - the 'ballot box".
The voting - the "ballot box" - has clear rules for counting - counting what's in the "ballot box".
The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.
Trump won the vote - at the "ballot" box" in accordancee to those known rules
So Trump is Prez of the US in accordance to the voting rules - the "ballot box". i
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Reply #506 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:
The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.


That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.

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Reply #507 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:37pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:
The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.


That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.




And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'??  Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"??  Is that what you are insisting on? TWO separate votes, two separate "ballot boxes"??
Yes, being the idiot, you are trying to insist precisely on such idiocy.



What is amusing about people like you is that you INSIST on being the idiotic, ignorant clown who gets the wrong end of any stick going.  What motivates you?

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Reply #508 - Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2020 at 10:23pm:
The vote- the "ballot box" - was counted correctly, according to the clear rules known to every candidate.


That's right, dear.

And Hillary won, at the ballot box.

At the ballot box, Trump was annihilated.

I think you might be thinking of the electoral college - that's where the alleged child rapist won.




And the electoral college system has nuffin to do wiv the ballot box or the rules of counting votes in the ballot box or nuffin'??  Weally?

One vote is cast in the ballot box and a completely different vote is then cast in the electoral college 'ballot box"?? 



The electoral college don't use a ballot box.

The ballot box is used by the mum & dad voters.

In 2016, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton.

You, however, made the outrageous claim that the alleged child rapist won at the ballot box.

Why did you do that?

Is it just that you don't understand how the US system works, or was it a blatant lie?

I'm curious.
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Reply #509 - Jan 24th, 2020 at 6:16am
 
Oh the Donald definitely did not get as many votes
And yet he still won the game

Imagine you are watching a football final
And one team has all the possession
They have the ball in their hands most of the time
They have all the crowd behind them cheering

And yet they don't convert that into scoreboard tally

And the other team are starved of possession
But through brilliant strategy
And especially

Paying attention
They convert every opportunity 2A score
And emerge victorious

That's a story of glory
Trump story is only more glorious taking into account that he did not win the popular vote
Clinton story is even more of a failure taking into account that she won the popular vote
But left her supporters in a state of emotional distress

She did not pay attention

she went to the wrong suburbs of Florida and preached her identity politics to the Mexicans and African Americans
She was paying so little attention she did not realise that the real Americans in other suburbs would decide the vote

She thought she was home and hosed in Massachusetts and did not bother to campaign there. This is an example of wilful blindness

The Donald paid attention
And conducted his campaign with surgical precision

This alone proves the Donald is far from the babbling buffoon
That the left portray him as

He hijacked the republican party against their will
He strategically paid attention to where he needed to campaign
And here emerged glorious and holding the trophy and the keys to the oval office at the end

A story worth studying for at least 10 years

Now the Donald realises he is a rich fat and lazy man in some ways
So how can he get another 4 years
The Donald has put his supercomputer of a brain to work
He has taunted the left and forced them to play identity politics
And hand over their party to the radical activists

Now the Donald has strategically maneuvered himself
So that he will come up against Pocahontas
Crazy Bernie
Or sleepy Joe

I think the Donald must have a good giggle to himself at night in bed
About how the democratic party has become putty in his hands

First he takes over the republican party
Now he appears to have taken over the democratic party
Has there ever been any one so persuasive and dominant
And for all the undecided voters
He's just so damned entertaining
No one will want him to go at the end of the year
They love the big fella
They love his stand-up comedy and his wit.

Can you imagine crazy Bernie Pocahontas or sleepy joe doing stand up comedy


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