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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #180 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:03pm
 
Congress doesn't need proof of wrongdoing by the President to impeach. That of course they have don't have.

All they need is a majority in the House to vote to impeach. They know that Trump is innocent - they just don't care. The average Joe and Jill just read or hear the headlines stating Trump is guilty. And they will believe it.

After all 62% of Americans did believe that Trump colluded with Russia. A Lie and now we have another.

The senate will stop the charade but it will damage the President in 2020 as the Russian hoax did in the midterms.

Such is the power of propaganda.
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Reply #181 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:45pm
 
We know the power of propaganda.

The AG will write a letter about a report, blatantly misleading the findings but tells Trump's supporters what they want to hear, so they now think it was a total exoneration rather than a record of Trump's collusion, obstruction and campaign finance violations.

And now he's doing the same thing with the IG report.  Trump and his supporters don't like what it said so while they construct their next conspiracy to settle the doubts in their head, they look to Barr and take what he says over what the investigation concluded.

Propaganda is powerful.  Why do you think Trump was so angry at Barr when he wouldn't confirm the call with Ukraine President "perfect".  Unlike those other instances, Barr is implicated in this scandal and it was the right thing, in terms of his self-incrimination, to stay out of it.

You're basically projecting again Rich.
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Reply #182 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:52pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
We know the power of propaganda.

The AG will write a letter about a report, blatantly misleading the findings but tells Trump's supporters what they want to hear, so they now think it was a total exoneration rather than a record of Trump's collusion, obstruction and campaign finance violations.

And now he's doing the same thing with the IG report.  Trump and his supporters don't like what it said so while they construct their next conspiracy to settle the doubts in their head, they look to Barr and take what he says over what the investigation concluded.


Propaganda is powerful.  Why do you think Trump was so angry at Barr when he wouldn't confirm the call with Ukraine President "perfect".  Unlike those other instances,
Barr is implicated in this scandal and it was the right thing, in terms of his self-incrimination, to stay out of it.

You're basically projecting again Rich.


why don't you be a good boy and post your proof of this blatant lie you put forth here ,

Because I am about to make a total fool and liar out of you again as soon as you do ..

Smiley
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Reply #183 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 3:05pm
 
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pa745k/trump-says-he-totally-didnt-demand-bil...

Trump Says He Totally Didn't Demand Bill Barr Hold a Press Conference Clearing His 'Perfect' Ukraine Call


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-barr-request-ukraine

Trump pushes back on report Barr denied request for press conference clearing him on Ukraine




President Donald Trump: 'I Never Asked' Barr To Hold A Press Conference On His Ukraine Call | MSNBC


IM ABOUT TO POST THE LAST NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN SAD ONE .. JUST WAITING ON YOUR " PROOF " ..
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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #184 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 3:06pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
We know the power of propaganda.

The AG will write a letter about a report, blatantly misleading the findings but tells Trump's supporters what they want to hear, so they now think it was a total exoneration rather than a record of Trump's collusion, obstruction and campaign finance violations.

And now he's doing the same thing with the IG report.  Trump and his supporters don't like what it said so while they construct their next conspiracy to settle the doubts in their head, they look to Barr and take what he says over what the investigation concluded.


Propaganda is powerful.  Why do you think Trump was so angry at Barr when he wouldn't confirm the call with Ukraine President "perfect".  Unlike those other instances,
Barr is implicated in this scandal and it was the right thing, in terms of his self-incrimination, to stay out of it.

You're basically projecting again Rich.



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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #185 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 3:39pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:52pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
We know the power of propaganda.

The AG will write a letter about a report, blatantly misleading the findings but tells Trump's supporters what they want to hear, so they now think it was a total exoneration rather than a record of Trump's collusion, obstruction and campaign finance violations.

And now he's doing the same thing with the IG report.  Trump and his supporters don't like what it said so while they construct their next conspiracy to settle the doubts in their head, they look to Barr and take what he says over what the investigation concluded.


Propaganda is powerful.  Why do you think Trump was so angry at Barr when he wouldn't confirm the call with Ukraine President "perfect".  Unlike those other instances,
Barr is implicated in this scandal and it was the right thing, in terms of his self-incrimination, to stay out of it.

You're basically projecting again Rich.


why don't you be a good boy and post your proof of this blatant lie you put forth here ,

Because I am about to make a total fool and liar out of you again as soon as you do ..

Smiley


Just because you're an uninformed jackass doesn't mean the rest of us are,



Of course, Trump claimed he never made such a request and attacked the outlets making these claims but then later admitted that he did make the request and that a Press Conference was held.  The problem was that the press conference was not a press conference but instead a statement from DOJ spokeswoman Kerri Kupec’s saying,

Quote:
“The President has not spoken with the Attorney General about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former vice president Biden or his son,”

“The President has not asked the Attorney General to contact Ukraine — on this or any other matter. The Attorney General has not communicated with Ukraine — on this or any other subject.”


So a statement that was a legal ass-covering for Barr, by someone else from the DOJ is what Trump is using as proof that his request to Barr was fulfilled and he wasn't angry?  LOL...

Trump has claimed it never happened, but later conceded that it did because he was caught lying, all to cover up the fact that he was angry that Barr would not incriminate himself by lying for Trump, not when he's implicated already.

Barr had no issues doing it for the Mueller Report and the IG Report only because he was not involved or under oath.  It's different for Ukraine.

It's likely that his upcoming investigation will be highly bias given he's lied about these other reports, but that's not the point.  Like Trump, he only cares about himself, but UNLIKE Trump, he's not going to incriminate himself.
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Re: Senate Impeachment Trial
Reply #186 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 3:45pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 3:39pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:52pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
We know the power of propaganda.

The AG will write a letter about a report, blatantly misleading the findings but tells Trump's supporters what they want to hear, so they now think it was a total exoneration rather than a record of Trump's collusion, obstruction and campaign finance violations.

And now he's doing the same thing with the IG report.  Trump and his supporters don't like what it said so while they construct their next conspiracy to settle the doubts in their head, they look to Barr and take what he says over what the investigation concluded.


Propaganda is powerful.  Why do you think Trump was so angry at Barr when he wouldn't confirm the call with Ukraine President "perfect".  Unlike those other instances,
Barr is implicated in this scandal and it was the right thing, in terms of his self-incrimination, to stay out of it.

You're basically projecting again Rich.


why don't you be a good boy and post your proof of this blatant lie you put forth here ,

Because I am about to make a total fool and liar out of you again as soon as you do ..

Smiley


Just because you're an uninformed jackass doesn't mean the rest of us are,



Of course, Trump claimed he never made such a request and attacked the outlets making these claims but then later admitted that he did make the request and that a Press Conference was held.  The problem was that the press conference was not a press conference but instead a statement from DOJ spokeswoman Kerri Kupec’s saying,

Quote:
“The President has not spoken with the Attorney General about having Ukraine investigate anything relating to former vice president Biden or his son,”

“The President has not asked the Attorney General to contact Ukraine — on this or any other matter. The Attorney General has not communicated with Ukraine — on this or any other subject.”


So a statement that was a legal ass-covering for Barr, by someone else from the DOJ is what Trump is using as proof that his request to Barr was fulfilled and he wasn't angry?  LOL...

Trump has claimed it never happened, but later conceded that it did because he was caught lying, all to cover up the fact that he was angry that Barr would not incriminate himself by lying for Trump, not when he's implicated already.

Barr had no issues doing it for the Mueller Report and the IG Report only because he was not involved or under oath.  It's different for Ukraine.

It's likely that his upcoming investigation will be highly bias given he's lied about these other reports, but that's not the point.  Like Trump, he only cares about himself, but UNLIKE Trump, he's not going to incriminate himself.


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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/13/william-barr-denies-trump-asked...

AG Barr denies Trump asked him to hold press conference


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U.S. Attorney General William Barr, left, with other federal and officials, announces that nearly 330 fugitives suspected of violent crimes have been arrested as part of a crime-fighting initiative in New Mexico, at a news conference at the office of ... more >
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Wednesday, November 13, 2019
Attorney General William Barr said Wednesday he doesn’t recall being asked by the White House to hold a press conference to do a very public exoneration of allegations he broke the law with his request that Ukraine investigate a political opponent.

Mr. Barr said he did offer to issue a press statement — which the department released, saying it had investigated and concluded the president didn’t commit a crime because there was nothing of concrete value to be won from the request for Ukraine to probe former Vice President Joseph R. Biden and his son.

The Washington Post reported last week that Mr. Trump made the request for a public exoneration. Other media outlets said they confirmed the same reporting.

But Mr. Trump has denied it, and so did Mr. Barr, during a press conference in Tennessee on efforts to combat gun violence.

“I don’t remember any such request,” Mr. Barr said. “In fact, my recollection is I told the White House we would do what we normally do, and that is issue a press statement, which we did.”
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Reply #187 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:02pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
We know the power of propaganda.

The AG will write a letter about a report, blatantly misleading the findings but tells Trump's supporters what they want to hear, so they now think it was a total exoneration rather than a record of Trump's collusion, obstruction and campaign finance violations.

And now he's doing the same thing with the IG report.  Trump and his supporters don't like what it said so while they construct their next conspiracy to settle the doubts in their head, they look to Barr and take what he says over what the investigation concluded.


Propaganda is powerful. 
Why do you think Trump was so angry at Barr when he wouldn't confirm the call with Ukraine President "perfect".  
Unlike those other instances,
Barr is implicated in this scandal and it was the right thing, in terms of his self-incrimination, to stay out of it.

You're basically projecting again Rich.


...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/13/william-barr-denies-trump-asked...

AG Barr denies Trump asked him to hold press conference


...
U.S. Attorney General William Barr, left, with other federal and officials, announces that nearly 330 fugitives suspected of violent crimes have been arrested as part of a crime-fighting initiative in New Mexico, at a news conference at the office of ... more >
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Wednesday, November 13, 2019
Attorney General William Barr said Wednesday he doesn’t recall being asked by the White House to hold a press conference to do a very public exoneration of allegations he broke the law with his request that Ukraine investigate a political opponent.

Mr. Barr said he did offer to issue a press statement — which the department released, saying it had investigated and concluded the president didn’t commit a crime because there was nothing of concrete value to be won from the request for Ukraine to probe former Vice President Joseph R. Biden and his son.

The Washington Post reported last week that Mr. Trump made the request for a public exoneration. Other media outlets said they confirmed the same reporting.

But Mr. Trump has denied it, and so did Mr. Barr, during a press conference in Tennessee on efforts to combat gun violence.

“I don’t remember any such request,” Mr. Barr said. “In fact, my recollection is I told the White House we would do what we normally do, and that is issue a press statement, which we did.”
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Reply #188 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:27pm
 
As I said in the secret message you quoted, you did just cross out what you didn't like about my post and take away whatever you want from it thinking you've had a victory.

Well, enjoy your empty not-even-victory, I'm going to one of my Office's XMas parties, have fun alone online.
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Reply #189 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:30pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:27pm:
As I said in the secret message you quoted, you did just cross out what you didn't like about my post and take away whatever you want from it thinking you've had a victory.

Well, enjoy your empty not-even-victory, I'm going to one of my Office's XMas parties, have fun alone online.


Your mums basement hardly qualifies for an "office party"  Roll Eyes
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Reply #190 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:35pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:27pm:
As I said in the secret message you quoted, you did just cross out what you didn't like about my post and take away whatever you want from it thinking you've had a victory.

Well, enjoy your empty not-even-victory, I'm going to one of my Office's XMas parties, have fun alone online.


IM SURE YOU'LL BE POSTING FROM YOUR FUN FILLED PARTY TONIGHT , JUST LIKE LAST TIME !!

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Reply #192 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 7:40pm
 
SerialBrain9 wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:30pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Dec 14th, 2019 at 4:27pm:
As I said in the secret message you quoted, you did just cross out what you didn't like about my post and take away whatever you want from it thinking you've had a victory.

Well, enjoy your empty not-even-victory, I'm going to one of my Office's XMas parties, have fun alone online.


Your mums basement hardly qualifies for an "office party"  Roll Eyes


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I see the serial liar, Cereal Brain, is spreading his bullshit everywhere again.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #193 - Dec 14th, 2019 at 7:43pm
 
I can understand the Republicans like Jordan and Nunnas etc all towing the line because they think it in their best interests and they know that doing the right thing would mean the end of their career but at the end of the day they all know that trump has done exactly what he was accused of doing. That is why they argue about the process and unfairness etc because there is no argument based on the facts - the real facts.

The thing which is harder to understand is how stupid people would have to be to believe that trump was innocent of anything. Please tell me that nobody is really that dumb ????
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