Bobby. wrote on Nov 20^th, 2019 at 11:05am:



Tis true Brave Knight ,

some visionaries have some words for them and those

we can only hope that they repent

So Bobby, it seems like you agree that the issue is that the shooters are on medication?

If so, what is the solution?

Take their meds away, or take their guns away?

It would seem like neither option would be acceptable to the Republican Party, you can't touch guns or big pharma. 

It's time to pick a side it seems...

Bobby. wrote on Nov 20^th, 2019 at 12:07pm:


So people with mental health issues that require medication only?

So if you stop taking the drugs you can have guns again?

https://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/10-american-killers-linked-to-prescription-...

10 American Killers Linked To Prescription Drugs

Aaron Ybarra: Prozac and Risperdal. June 5, 2014: 26-year old Ybarra, opened fire with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University, killing one student and wounding two others. Ybarra reported that he had been prescribed the antidepressant Prozac and antipsychotic Risperdal.



Elliot Rodger: Xanax. May 23, 2014: 22-year-old Rodger went on a rampage in Isla Vista, California, killing 7 people and injuring 13 more, before killing himself with a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Elliot had been taking Xanax for a while, according to his parents. There were fears he might have been addicted to it, or taking more than was prescribed.


Jose Reyes: Fluoxetine (generic Prozac.) October 21, 2013: 12-year-old Reyes opened fire at Sparks Middle School, killing a teacher and wounding two classmates before committing suicide. The investigation revealed that he had been seeing a psychiatrist and had a generic version of Prozac (fluoxetine) in his system at the time of death.


Adam Lanza: Lexapro. December 14, 2012: 20-year-old Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children and 6 adult staff members at the Sandy Hook Elementary School. Prior to driving to the school, Lanza shot and killed his mother at their Newtown home. As first responders arrived at the scene, Lanza shot himself in the head. Kathleen Koenig, a nurse specialist in psychiatry at the Yale Child Study Center, the last place Lanza was treated, had notes of Lanza’s behavior while on Lexipro. Nancy reported, “on the third morning he complained of dizziness. By that afternoon he was disoriented, his speech was disjointed, he couldn’t even figure out how to open his cereal box. He was sweating profusely…it was actually dripping off his hands. He said he couldn’t think…He was practically vegetative.” Adam stopped taking Lexapro and never took psychotropics again, which worried Koenig.


James Holmes: Clonazepam, Sertraline (generic Zoloft.) July 20, 2012: 25-year-old James Eagan Holmes set off several gas or smoke canisters and then opened fire while inside a Century movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, killing 12 and wounding 70. During their execution of the search warrant on Holmes' apartment, police, “found prescription medication for sertraline, a generic version of Zoloft used to treat depression, panic disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder; and Clonazepam, usually prescribed to treat anxiety and panic attacks,” reports the L.A. Times.


Steven Kazmierczak: Prozac, Xanax, Ambien. February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Kazmierczak shot and killed 5 people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien.


Jeff Weise: Prozac. March 21, 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot and killed 5 students, 1 security guard, 1 teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself. Prozac was found in his system.


Eric Harris: Luvox. April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves in Columbine, Colorado. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox, while Klebold’s medical records remain sealed.


Kipland Kinkel: Prozac. May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending “anger control classes” and was under the care of a psychologist.


Barry Dale Loukaitis: Ritalin. February 2, 1996: 14-year-old Barry Dale Loukatis, shot and killed his algebra teacher and two students, and held his Frontier Middle School classmates hostage before a gym coach subdued Loukaitis. Loukaitis suffered from hyperactivity, and was taking Ritalin at the time of the shooting. He also suffered from clinical depression, a mental illness present in the last three generations of the Loukaitis family.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 20^th, 2019 at 12:12pm:


Stop being silly - people who were on drugs
could have a mental illness that may not be cured.
They would need a medical certificate to
prove they were sane enough to
have access to firearms.

It seems that in America any nut case
can go to the local Wal-Mart and stock
up on the most powerful firearms
and get 1000s of rounds of ammo too.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 20^th, 2019 at 12:45pm:


There is nothing silly about it. 

It's a serious issue and one that the President takes seriously so much so that he enacted legislation to make it harder for the mentally Ill to buy guns and ammunition.

Well, at least that's what we could say when Obama was President.  In 2017 however, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns.

We should keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, but that's not what some are advocating for because it would require an admission that Trump had spectacularly failed on this issue all because he was on a crusade, a personal vendetta to undo as much Obama-era legislation and achievements as possible, all because the fat little cry baby wouldn't take Obama roasting him at the White House Correspondents Dinner.

No, those people are blaming drugs, not guns, not the mentally ill, but a conspiracy theory that successive left-leaning governments, despite it being the conservatives who have been pushing the deregulation in these markets, have been pumping children full of drugs and it's those drugs that make them kill people.

Take away the drugs and these people can keep their guns and no longer be of any harm.  The drug companies are without blame too, they're just innocent victims of the conspiracy by the left.  This is how you reconcile being a conservative, supporting Trump, supporting gun and supporting the drug companies all at the same time while attacking the left.

Invent a conspiracy that doesn't make sense, that doesn't stand up to the most basic of scrutiny and was concocted first by starting with the result they wanted and working their way back rather than looking for the causes of the issue and use those to form an opinion.  But that doesn't matter because once the conspiracy is reported, anywhere, even the satirical site the above is posted on, that in the minds of the tards is confirmation they were right all along.

It's classic conspiratard logic. 

So while yes, you and I can have a frank chat about it and agree that it's obvious that guns are an issue which is compounded by the mentally ill being able to trivially purchase them 100% legally, some will be triggered by being exposed into spamming the same old crap all over again in an attempt to bury their humiliation.

Choose a side carefully.

Rider wrote on Nov 20^th, 2019 at 4:49pm:


So, everything but guns?

Nice credibility you have there...

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 20^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:




Mentally ill people and anyone on drugs shouldn't have access to firearms - but they do.

It's something to do with privacy between a doctor
and their patient.
The state has no right to know that a person is on
heavy drugs for mental illness - go figure?