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Reply #255 - Oct 10th, 2019 at 2:26pm
 
Cliffy falls of a cliff as she trolls the standard Greeny garbage. Is she a Tesla Fan Girl too ?

Her idiotic comparison is puerile and banal as there are millions more petrol and diesel cars than the unsafe dangerous very inconvenient Telsa toy cars which have a high incidence of crashes and lithium fire bomb explosions with clouds of poisonous gas being released and wheels falling off when the crummy suspension breaks.

And just for Cliffy who is so out of touch.

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Tesla S comes to grief and adds to the frightening number of Tesla front end crashes.

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Reply #256 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 9:26am
 
juliar wrote on Oct 10th, 2019 at 2:26pm:
Cliffy falls of a cliff as she trolls the standard Greeny garbage. Is she a Tesla Fan Girl too ?

Her idiotic comparison is puerile and banal as there are millions more petrol and diesel cars than the unsafe dangerous very inconvenient Telsa toy cars which have a high incidence of crashes and lithium fire bomb explosions with clouds of poisonous gas being released and wheels falling off when the crummy suspension breaks.

And just for Cliffy who is so out of touch.

https://cs.copart.com/v1/AUTH_svc.pdoc00001/PIX178/c705c947-2fd3-45ed-82bb-9339a...
Tesla S comes to grief and adds to the frightening number of Tesla front end crashes.



then why don't you post them you f.cking degenerate loser !! You useless do-nothing, make cups of coffee, real estate piece of sh.t !


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Reply #257 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 10:45am
 
From the dregs of society crawls the sick mentally disturbed loony Greeny Scunge eager to display her legendary ignorance. She is just trying to get attention as she is normally ignored as a waste of space that is not worth feeding.

But to keep the NORMAL PEOPLE focused on how unsafe and dangerous these useless very inconvenient pollution spewing electric toy cars really are.


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Tesla 3 takes on a pole. Unexpected acceleration or lousy brakes ? Wonder how the pole is ?

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Reply #258 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 11:05am
 
Now ignoring the attention seeking jealous trolls.
Korea can see the obvious hydrogen future for all vehicles and industrial machines. Whereas the very inconvenient pollution spewing electric toy cars will gradually disappear just like they did some 200 years or so ago.





[Hydrogen Korea] Korea sets out to seize lead in hydrogen energy
By Cho Chung-un Published : Aug 5, 2018 - 15:17Updated : Aug 13, 2018 - 17:55

With Hyundai at global forefront, Seoul’s W2.6tr plan on hydrogen ecosystem ups hopes for energy transition, but market remains uncertain.
    
The Korea Herald is publishing a series of articles on South Korea’s latest measures, hurdles and the market drive for hydrogen economy. This is the first installment. -- Ed.

After a decade of dragging its feet, the South Korean government has come up with a set of measures to nurture an ecosystem for hydrogen vehicles, seeking a transition from fossil fuels to zero emission energy.

For more than a decade, the state drive for a hydrogen economy has been sidelined, due to policy inconsistencies through different administrations and a global preference for batteries over fuel cells.

Amid problems of energy intermittency being addressed over renewables, however, interest in the potential role of hydrogen in South Korea’s de-carbonization has grown.

In June, the Ministry of Industry, Trade and Energy announced a 2.6 trillion won plan to supply 16,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles and build 310 hydrogen refilling stations across the country. Under the five-year plan, businesses are expected to get state support for the development of fuel cell stacks and fuel cell storage containers, as well as tax breaks for hydrogen vehicle drivers.


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The announcement is a follow-up to a pan-industrial alliance launched in April. The ministry signed a memorandum of understanding with local automakers, state-run utilities companies and related organizations to establish a special purpose company to build hydrogen fueling stations in major cities and on highways.

Park Jong-won, of the automobiles and aviation department of the Ministry of Industry, sees hydrogen and battery-powered vehicles (EVs) as complementary, not rivals.

Although there are only 170 hydrogen powered vehicles currently registered here, he expects that to reach 15,000 by 2022 –the same order of magnitude as the current number of EVs.

For EVs, which now have a head-start on hydrogen, the ministry also expects the number registered in South Korea to grow, from 25,500 to 350,000 over the same period.

“The technology of electric vehicles has become widely available now, but that of hydrogen cars are still in an infant stage and there should be more basic infrastructure like refilling stations (to buttress its growth),” he said.

Both hydrogen and battery-powered vehicles are electrically driven and have no carbon emissions -- qualities sought after by most advanced economies to minimize the use of gas or diesel in order to curb pollutants. Hybrids and plug in hybrids are also considered eco-friendly, using electric power to reduce the emissions from their regular diesel or gasoline engines.

The difference between hydrogen cars and EVs is that the latter are charged with electricity externally, while hydrogen powered cars generate energy by converting the chemical energy of hydrogen by reacting hydrogen with oxygen in a fuel cell. Aside from the difference in where the electricity comes from, the charging time for hydrogen vehicles is shorter than that of EVs, while a single charge gives a longer driving distance.

There are only a handful of commercial hydrogen vehicles in the market that include the world’s first Hyundai Tucson ix35 FCEV along with the Toyota Mirai and the Honda Clarity. Hyundai has also recently unveiled the newest flagship Nexo this year.

“Currently, South Korea is one of the leading countries in fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) technology which is yet taking a small portion both in domestic and global market,” said Ryan Lee, principal analyst at IHS Markit.

“However, the investment will accelerate popularizing FCEVs with more realistic numbers of charging infrastructure (only 11 FC charging stations in Korea currently) and sufficient subsidy support,” he said.

But the South Korean government’s focus appears to be limited to auto industry and is far from comprehensive, experts say.

In a hydrogen economy, vehicles would play a crucial part. But more comprehensive work has to be carried out -- such as building nationwide networks of energy supply and storage system, which cost a lot of money and require a high level of technology.

Japan has also been active in hydrogen.

By 2020, the year the country hosts the Tokyo Olympics, Japan plans to increase the number of hydrogen-powered vehicles by 40,000 units and 800,000 units by 2030. Under its 2014 road map toward a hydrogen economy, not only carmakers that have already succeeded in commercial production of fuel-cell electric vehicles, but also other traditional industrial players -- energy firms, steelmakers and shipbuilders -- have formed an alliance to switch to hydrogen energy.

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Reply #259 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 11:17am
 
Over in London the MPs are getting into the next future generation of hydrogen powered pollution free vehicles.

Hydrogen is following a similar pattern as petrol did in the early days when there were no filling stations and the current huge petrol infrastructure was being developed into what it is today.

Look at how complex the refining of crude oil is today.




Chris Grayling MP is first to drive one of the Green Tomato Cars
18/06/2018

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New Fleet of 50 Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Electric Saloons

Chris Grayling MP was the first person to drive one of 50 new Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel cell electric saloons that are joining the London fleet of green private hire company Green Tomato Cars. He made the short journey from the Department for Transport offices in Westminster, with Jonny Goldstone, Green Tomato Cars co-founder and Managing Director and Paul Van der Burgh, Toyota GB President and Managing Director.

Chris Grayling said: ‘I was thoroughly impressed by the Toyota Mirai today and was delighted to be the first passenger in one of Green Tomato Cars’ new zero – emission vehicles. Improvements in hydrogen infrastructure over the last year and the developing partnerships between the hydrogen power providers, manufacturers of hydrogen vehicles and end users, are helping accelerate the decarbonisation of road transport.’

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The new cars are being provided with the support of the UK’s Office for Low Emission Vehicles (OLEV*) Hydrogen for Transport Program and the Zero Emission Fleet vehicles For European Roll-Out(ZEFER**) program, an EU project, funded by the Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Joint Undertaking (FCH JU***).

Green Tomato Cars is taking delivery of 25 of the zero emission Mirai cars now, with another 25 due to be delivered in September. These vehicles will offer the same service as the current premium ‘Black Car’ service and will also be allocated to standard bookings across London and the Home Counties, 24/7.

Jonny Goldstone, MD and co-founder of Green Tomato Cars comments: “We’re very proud to have pioneered hydrogen powered transport in London and are delighted with the performance of our two original Toyota Mirai. This is a truly unique project where investors in hydrogen technology, manufacturers of hydrogen cars and Green Tomato Cars as the end users, have come together with a commitment to make hydrogen transport workfor the good of the people and the environment.

We’d like to thank OLEV, the FCH JU and Toyota for their support in helping us acquire such a significant number of these innovative cars. We’ve already seen lots of demand for our zero emission Mirai hydrogen cars from our major corporate clients, as well as a green room of celebrities and hundreds of our regular private individual customers. We can’t wait to put the new cars on the road and drive into the future”.

Paul Van der Burgh, Managing Director and President of Toyota GB PLC commented: ‘We’re delighted that Green Tomato Cars have been happy with their Toyota Mirai cars and that they are taking 50 more. It’s clear that confidence in hydrogen powered transport is growing among end users, which is another step in the path towards a hydrogen society.’

The Mirai are expected to do the same average mileage as other cars on the Green Tomato Cars fleet, around 120-150 miles a day. A Mirai can travel up to 300 miles on a full tank of hydrogen, so the private hire cars should be refuelling every two dayson average. Improvements in hydrogen infrastructure have
increased the viability of hydrogen powered transport in the UK. Over the last year several new hydrogen fuelling stations have opened across the UK. There are a total of six stations within and around the M25 (including one in Hendon) with more expected to be operational by the end of the year.

Green Tomato Cars was the first private hire company in Europe to take on hydrogen fuel cell cars in Europe, having had two Toyota Mirai cars on its fleet since 2015 completing over 25,000 miles a year in normal commercial operation.

Green Tomato Cars has embarked on a significant recruitment project, taking on employee drivers(for the first time in the company’s history) for the new Mirai cars. This will ensure the right balance of these unique cars in service at any given time. An additional benefit will be that the company can test the viability of the employee model in terms of efficiency, quality of service, driver engagement and passenger satisfaction, compared with the current
model in which current drivers are independent contractors working on a flexible ‘earn-as-you-drive’ basis. Recruitment is open to current Green Tomato drivers and new applicants.

https://zefer.eu/uncategorised/chris-grayling-mp-is-first-to-drive-one-of-the-gr...
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Reply #260 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 11:19am
 
Fence to keep the trolls out.  On the front fence of every good blog site is a big sign, "Don't feed the trolls - it only encourages them!!!"
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Reply #261 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 1:24pm
 
what an ignorant post.  no clue about reality. the idiot liar has no clue of reality.  very sad.. poor dear... just doesnt understand science.
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Reply #262 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 2:21pm
 
Cliff48 wrote on Oct 11th, 2019 at 1:24pm:
what an ignorant post.  no clue about reality. the idiot liar has no clue of reality.  very sad.. poor dear... just doesnt understand science.


just like the rest of the LNP who make up their own science to fit their greedy motives in life Sad

Where there is a prospect of being greedy there will always be an LNP supporter willing to take advantage of the opportunity Sad
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Reply #263 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 2:43pm
 
The ignorant idiot Greeny pests Cliff and Scunge just make themselves look even more pathetically ridiculous.

These low forms of life are normally ignored as just a waste of space and so these creeps try to get attention.
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Reply #264 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 10:53pm
 
juliar wrote on Oct 11th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
The ignorant idiot Greeny pests Cliff and Scunge just make themselves look even more pathetically ridiculous.

These low forms of life are normally ignored as just a waste of space and so these creeps try to get attention.


you fit the bill on that front perfectly socko. I don't see Elon musk taking any notice of your BS posts do you ? He's too busy do something constructive for the benefit of the planet whereas you lot are trying to destroy it Sad
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Reply #265 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 10:32am
 
The low form of "life" the loony Greeny Scunge just keeps crawling around hoping to get noticed. What a waste of space that is not worth feeding this silly coot is.

Now getting away from the unbelievably ignorant unbalanced undesirables and back to the topic.

London coppers are already on the way to their hydrogen future.




Met trials fleet of hydrogen-powered vehicles as part of zero emissions program
News   •   Oct 08, 2019 20:01 BST

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Hydrogen powered London coppers are chasing the evil pollution spewing electric cars into the junk yards.

The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) has launched an ambitious programme to achieve zero emissions across its vehicles by 2050, and as part of this now trialling a fleet of hydrogen-powered vehicles.

Hydrogen and fuel cell power have come into sharper focus in the UK in recent years as a potential emissions-free alternative to traditional energy sources.

The MPS is embracing clean energy technology and is continuously exploring new ways to reduce emissions via alternative fuel and energy.

Seth Finkelstein, the Met’s Fleet Services Air Quality lead, said: “Alongside our existing fleet of hybrid and electric cars, we want to explore whether hydrogen power could also become part of our future.

“Tuesday, 8 October, is becoming recognised around the world as Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Day and it is increasingly clear that the role of hydrogen and fuel cell power will play an important role on this journey.

We have a range of zero and ultra-low emission vehicles (including hybrids, fully electric, and hydrogen) as part of our fleet, in fact, we now have over 500 of these in operational roles.

We are striving to increase this amount as we move forward and are continuously engaging with vehicle manufacturers around new technologies and are open to trial all new technology that can support our operational requirements, such as hydrogen and fuel cell power.

It should be noted however, that as new technology is rolled out, there are always barriers to overcome. In this instance, it’s the availability of hydrogen refuelling stations that will need to be addressed to help further the use of these vehicles.”

The MPS has adopted this technology and has implemented hydrogen and fuel cell powered vehicles within its fleet.

The 21 hydrogen-powered Toyota Mirai’s have so far clocked up over 260,000 emission free miles.

Ten of these cars have been partly funded by the European Commission as part of the FCH JU (Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Joint Undertaking) research programme through the ZEFER project (Zero Emission Fleet vehicles For European Roll-out).

The project aims to demonstrate the business case for organisations converting their fleets to fuel cell electric vehicles, and thus improving the business case for hydrogen refuelling stations.


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Reply #266 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 10:58am
 
Even in crazy Ireland they are going full tilt to the Hydrogen Energy Future.

Hydrogen is retracing the path that petrol and diesel took some 200 years ago when they hustled the useless electric toy "cars" into the junk yards. Just like the petrol and diesel did hydrogen is now building the hydrogen fueling network.





New group aims to put 30,000 hydrogen-powered cars on the road by 2030
Mark Teevan, Thursday, October 03, 2019 - 01:07 PM

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A new industry group wants to make hydrogen fuel available at filling stations on every main road in the country by 2030.

Hydrogen Mobility Ireland says a network of 76 stations would mean half the population would have one in their town.

Mark Teevan from Toyota Ireland heads up the industry group which hopes the government will put €14 million into the scheme.

He says action to cut carbon emissions in transport is needed sooner rather than later.

"The challenge is to get started since not only is a new infrastructure needed but also the production of a new fuel," said Mr Teevan.

"With Hydrogen Mobility Ireland, we have started the process of coordinating industry’s response to this challenge whilst also planning to align with academic and policy thinking.

"This report is the first output of HMI and leads us to the next part of the challenge which is to implement our findings."

At the launch at Bord Gáis Energy headquarters today, Minister for Communications, Climate Action and the Environment Richard Bruton said: "The Climate Action Plan, launched earlier this year, commits to over 180 actions across every sector of society to step up our response to the climate challenge.

"These actions were chosen based on an assessment of the least cost, least burden options currently available.

"The plan is a rolling plan, designed to integrate best practice as it emerges and adapt to emerging new technologies.

"I welcome this research as a valuable insight into a potential pathway for the introduction of hydrogen vehicles in Ireland between now and 2030."

In 2017, transport accounted for 39% of Ireland's total greenhouse gasses.

According to Hydrogen Mobility Ireland, hydrogen cars, buses and trucks can be a reality by 2023.


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Reply #267 - Oct 14th, 2019 at 11:27am
 
The inevitable rise of Hydrogen is being embraced even underground.




The Intelligent guide to: hydrogen fuel cells for mining
BY CARLY LEONIDA 31ST JAN 2019

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Only pure clean water comes out of these.

Batteries and battery metals are currently enjoying their moment in the spotlight. But there are alternative technologies for miners looking to reduce their carbon footprint. The Intelligent Miner presents a selection of the best articles on hydrogen fuel cells for mining.

Why hydrogen?
Hydrogen fuel cells, while still at a nascent stage of development for mine vehicles, could offer a viable alternative to traditional style and lithium-based batteries. On a larger scale, they also provide an alternative energy-storage mechanism for off-grid mine sites, and can be applied alongside advanced battery systems and gas or renewable energy sources in order to secure sites a reliable source of low-cost power.

Research firm Grand View Research expects the global fuel cell market to grow to US$24.81 billion by 2025 at a compound average growth rate of 20.9%, and with major miners like Amplats and Fortescue Metals Group investing in the technology, it’s certainly worth consideration for forward thinking miners.

The Rocky Mountain Institute ran an excellent article in September last year from Christopher Jackson, a renewable energy consultant for the World Bank, which explains how hydrogen fuel cells can be applied across the spectrum in mining. You can read it here.

Hydrogen for mine vehicles
Platinum-based hydrogen fuel cells currently exhibit the most promise for use in both passenger and off-highway vehicles. They convert energy stored in chemical form into electricity, cleanly and quietly. Amplats gives a good overview of how the technology works here.

Hydrogen and batteries are often portrayed as competing technologies. However, their relative strengths and weaknesses suggest that they could play complementary roles; battery electric vehicles have a higher overall fuel efficiency as long as they are not too heavy due to large battery sizes, making them well suited for short-distance and lighter vehicles. Hydrogen can store more energy in less weight, making fuel cells suitable for vehicles with heavy payloads and long ranges. Faster refuelling also benefits commercial fleets and other vehicles in near-continuous use. How the technologies relate will depend on how battery technology evolves and how quickly cost reductions from scaling fuel-cell production can be realised.

From 2004-08, the US Department of Energy ran a programme in conjunction with industry partners including Caterpillar, Newmont and Hatch called The Fuel Cell Hybrid Mine Loader Project. The project had three main goals: to develop a fuel cell powered LHD, to develop associated metal-hydrid storage and refuelling systems, and to demonstrate the hybrid loader in an underground mine in Nevada. The full report published in 2009 is available here and makes good reading for those interested in the technical aspects of fuel cells.

The team found that, although hydrogen fuel cell power plants are technically ready to power underground mining vehicles, the underground mining industry is a relatively small market compared to mobile surface markets, and as such, it is difficult to attract the necessary capital investment to put fuel cell powered vehicles into commercial production.

Given the recent level of interest in batteries for mining vehicles, their more advanced state of development and lower price point, this is where most major OEMs and miners are focusing their efforts, particularly for underground equipment models which are smaller and more easily powered. Hydrogen fuelled trucks and loaders, while technically feasible are still a way off of commercialisation. However, as the market for fuel-cell powered on-highway vehicles matures, so too will the technologies for off-highway applications.

Hydrogen for energy supply
More widely understood and commercially proven, hydrogen fuel cells for microgrids are gaining traction, particularly in major mining markets such as Australia.

Brisbane hosted a major conference dedicated to hydrogen energy in August 2018. The Coalition for Eco Efficient Comminution produced a report summarising key finding and featuring many of the presentations which you can read here. There was also a good presentation at the Energy and Mines conference which was held in Australia in June 2018 on de-risking mining operations with renewable hydrogen energy systems. Click here to download it.

The Australian government is providing substantial backing for the development and implementation of hydrogen-based technologies and national research agency CSIRO announced in 2017 that it had made a major breakthrough in the use of ammonia for the storage and transport of hydrogen destined for fuel cells. This was followed by the creation of a A$20 million partnership with FMG in Nov 2018 to commercialise the technology.

At the International Conference on Hydrogen from Renewable Energies, New Opportunities for Chile held in 2017, engineering consultants from AdapTec also presented their ideas for a hydrogen-powered mine village and also hydrogen fuel-cell powered vehicles.

https://theintelligentminer.com/2019/01/31/the-intelligent-guide-to-hydrogen-fue...
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Hydrogen rises as the curtain comes down on the useless electric toy "cars".



Hydrogen is the future, not battery-electric cars: Lexus
Stephen Corby 03 October 2017

Despite what you’ve heard from many major car corporations, and Tesla, electric vehicles are not the future, and never will be - according to Paul Williamsen, Lexus’s manager of global strategic communications - because the charging times will never fall to acceptable, practical levels.

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It’s “a simple matter of chemistry,” the company’s self-described “tech guy”, explains.

If EVs were the answer to our oil and smog problems, Lexus would be producing whisper-quiet luxury electric cars, but it’s not. According to Williamsen, the Japanese company, and its giant parent, Toyota, believes that “both hybrid and EVs are merely bridging technologies on the way to the solution, which is hydrogen”.

Unlike EV-mad Nissan, the Toyota group’s plan is to largely stick with internal-combustion engines and hybrids, because a “smart company” wouldn’t bother investing too much money in a form of propulsion that will never catch on, and will soon be redundant anyway. This explains, in part, why Toyota is partnering up for its "bridging" EVs rather than throwing all of its own considerable resources at the technology.

“The problem with EVs is a simple matter of chemistry - we won’t be able to get the charging times down,” Williamsen explains.

“I’ve worked with batteries enough to know that fast-charging a battery is about the second worst thing you can do to it. There are two ways to abuse a battery: overheat it or fast charge it.

“With the Tesla Superchargers, they don’t publicise it, but if you 'supercharge' a Tesla, one supercharge takes 20 charge cycles off the end of that battery’s life. Two supercharges takes 40 charges.

“That’s simple chemistry; you can’t force the ions through the battery that fast without causing damage.


“With hydrogen, we’ve got something that can fill a (Toyota) Mirai, or a Highlander, or a Honda, or a Hyundai, with a 200 to 400-mile range, in three minutes. You’ll buy that, your wife will buy that, and she’s going to pay about $4 (per gallon, or 3.8 litres) to fill it up, too, which is pretty great.”



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Above: the Toyota Mirai, top of article: the hydrogen-fuelled Lexus LF-FC concept

Although hydrogen is measured in kilograms, Williamsen offered the 'per gallon' figure as a means of comparison for buyers more familiar with conventional fuels. He says that US$4 per-gallon price is what's available currently in the US, but, once the economies of scale change, and demand rises, the cost could fall even lower.

As with regular fuels, the price of hydrogen varies from region to region, station to station, and tests in the US and Europe suggest that filling the Toyota Mirai's 5kg of storage is a roughly $60 prospect, in Australian dollars.

There is currently one fixed hydrogen-fuel station in all of Australia (at Hyundai’s headquarters in Sydney), but the US, or at least California, is getting serious, building a Hydrogen Highway of filling stations (36 of them and counting) from San Francisco to the Mexican border (apparently they run into a Big, Beautiful Wall when they get there).

While there are several car companies working on hydrogen tech, both publicly and otherwise, Toyota/Lexus is sure it has the jump on everybody, and that the future will prove it was right to build boring hybrids like the Prius all along.

“You can make a motor vehicle that uses hydrogen as an energy source in three completely unrelated ways,” Williamsen explains.

“The only one that makes sense is a hydrogen/EV hybrid. That’s what we’re doing, and we’re using our experience in hybrid to do that.

“If you don’t make your hydrogen car a hybrid, you’re giving up all the efficiency advantages of regeneration. So you’re being wasteful.

“Our approach is to have the best and most efficient way of using hydrogen, which has to be a hybrid. Not every automaker thinks that way. They can have a zero-emission vehicle by having a hydrogen fuel cell that directly drives the car, or a hydrogen powered ICE, but they’re using twice as much hydrogen as we are.

“We believe a hydrogen fuel cell EV hybrid is the only way to go, so that’s all we build.

“And the Mirai is our sixth generation of production-ready hydrogen technology. The previous five were production ready, but there wasn’t enough demand to put them into production. But now you can buy them.”

Or you can in America, where a Mirai will set you back $US57,000, before the generous tax incentives from the Californian State Government kick in, or you can lease one for $US499 a month.

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The problem with hydrogen, Williamsen admits, is that most ways of producing it at the moment are still carbon-output heavy, and those methods vary widely by region.

Read the depressing rest of the coming demise of the electric toy "car" here.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/588509/hydrogen-is-the-future-not-battery-electric-...
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