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Reply #30 - Jun 13th, 2019 at 6:46pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 3:23pm:
The Hydrogen future is Exploding;;; Literally Cheesy


like socko said it literally is a "tank break through" Cheesy LOL
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Reply #31 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

Sometimes I amaze myself by how correct my predictions are.
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Reply #32 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:03am
 
When will ScoMo get behind the inevitable introduction of the HYDROGEN FUEL REVOLUTION ?

Already the all electric toy cars are clearly a dead end solution to nothing.





Hydrogen isn't the fuel of the future. It's already here
Brad Page 11 Jun 2019

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A Hyundai Tucson hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV) is filled at the pump by Derek Joyce in a photo op in Newport Beach, California June 9, 2014. Hydrogen pumps at filling stations could soon become commonplace - with help from policymakers Image: REUTERS/Alex Gallardo

When the leaders of the world’s economic powerhouses meet at this year’s G20 in Japan, two important decarbonization options are expected to finally garner the attention they deserve: carbon capture and hydrogen. The urgent need to reduce CO2 emissions means these two technologies – together and on their own – will be necessary alongside accelerated efficiency, exponential renewables growth and nuclear power.

Hydrogen is a rising star. Versatile and environmentally friendly, hydrogen produces no CO2 when combusted, only water and heat. It can be used to decarbonise electricity, heating, transport and industry. A clean energy vector, hydrogen is easily transported, stored and blended with current fuels.

To many, hydrogen remains elusive; it is thought of as an energy source of the future. However, proven large-scale and low-emission hydrogen production is already here through hydrogen production from natural resources coupled with carbon capture and storage (CCS), a suite of emission-reduction technologies that store CO2 underground. As such, alongside other key mitigation options, the large-scale deployment of hydrogen production can kickstart the energy transition.

Hydrogen can be produced from a variety of sources, a fact that confers both security and diversity of supply. Natural gas reforming (SMR) provides half of all hydrogen produced globally. Electrolysis, a process in which excess clean energy produced from renewables or nuclear is used to produce hydrogen, become important as a form of energy storage, and will enable greater integration of renewables.

Governments need to support both electrolysis and carbon capture hydrogen. The Australian Government estimates global hydrogen demand at 530 million tonnes per annum (mtpa) by 2050. To put this number into context: to produce 500 mtpa of hydrogen, 25,000 terawatt hours (TWh) of electricity will be required from nuclear and renewables – more than 2.5 times as much as the total electricity produced from nuclear and renewables combined in 2018. Hydrogen production with carbon capture is also currently cheaper, and has been demonstrated to be half to two-thirds the price of electrolysis.


However, a carbon capture and storage scale-up is not only necessary for hydrogen production, but also to eliminate CO2 from industrial processes, as well as power plants. The International Energy Agency (IEA) in its 2018 World Energy Outlook said existing and under-construction infrastructure accounts for almost all the carbon budget left, and along these lines emphasises the necessary scale-up of carbon capture. The IEA’s Sustainable Development Scenario estimates that roughly 2,000 CCS facilities are necessary by 2040, up from 18 today, to limit global warming. Currently, four of those 18 CCS facilities produce hydrogen, while two are under construction in Canada, with a total production capacity of close to 1.5 million tonnes of hydrogen annually.

Innovators are also hoping to integrate the Allam Cycle, a promising and groundbreaking carbon capture technology in demonstration – essentially a zero-emission natural gas power plant – with hydrogen production.

That Japan chose to highlight hydrogen and carbon capture at the G20 is not a surprise. Dependent on fuel imports, yet committed to fighting climate change, the country is a pioneer in hydrogen technology and a champion for carbon capture and storage. Looking ahead to 2050, hydrogen is the fuel of choice for its quest to reduce emissions from all sectors. Its car manufacturing industry, along with other industry players, has demonstrated a commitment to a hydrogen-powered future. Carbon capture facilities globally are using Japanese technologies to catch CO2. Japan has also teamed up with the Australian government to produce hydrogen in Australia for import to Japan. Next year, Japan is hosting the Summer Olympics, also dubbed the Hydrogen Olympics, and is expected to show great progress.

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https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/06/the-clean-energy-of-the-future-is-already...
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Reply #33 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:08am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:26am:
Hydrogen Fueling Station Explodes: Toyota & Hyundai Halt Fuel Cell Car Sales

Blast was so big it set off airbags in nearby cars.


A hydrogen refueling station exploded and stood in flames yesterday in Sandvika, Norway, which could make June 10, 2019 the day when the perception about hydrogen stations and hydrogen fuel cell cars, in general, will forever change.
According to reports from the Uno-X station, the explosion was huge. It triggered airbags in nearby cars and caused the necessity to close off the busy E18 and E16 intersection. A safety zone of 500 meters was recommended by the fire service.

"“It is probably a tank that has exploded at the hydrogen station next to the police station at Kjorbo,” The Fire Services tells the local newspaper Budstikka."
"“E18 near the site is closed in both directions due to the danger of explosion. The E16 at the Bjornegarden tunnel in Barum is closed for the same reason,” The Road Traffic Central tweets Tweets."

The cause of the explosion is not yet known as it needs to be investigated.

Because of that, Uno-X closed its two other stations with hydrogen in Norway, while carmakers - Toyota and Hyundai - temporarily stopped sales of FCVs (well, only a few per month were usually sold anyway). Owners of FCVs are expected to get loaner cars.


Taking into consideration how few hydrogen refueling stations are installed around the world, with this explosion, the average number of explosions per station will probably be orders of magnitude higher than for any other fuel. Not a good thing if you intend to promote FCVs.
We were often criticizing hydrogen fuel cell cars as a poor alternative for all-electric, because of low energy efficiency, high cost and lack of refueling infrastructure. As the charging times decreased in new BEVs thanks to ultra-fast chargers and the range on a single charge increased, it seemed that FCVs will never have a chance to take off. Any issues with safety (especially if repeated) only adds to the challenge.


Just last week a Hydrogen Plant in Sanfracisco exploded and stopped hydrogen supply there, now this...

The explosion set off airbags in surrounding areas, just lucky no one was refilling.......Hydrogen is a highly flammable liquid under immense pressure (10,000psi)..... Wink


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Reply #34 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:29am
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

Sometimes I amaze myself by how correct my predictions are.
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Reply #35 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 3:33pm
 
Hey socko there are over 450 electric vehicle manufacturers in china and no-go zones for fossil fool clunkers. WTF are you and scumo going to do about it ? Cheesy LOL
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Reply #36 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 7:03pm
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

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Reply #37 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:11pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

Sometimes I amaze myself by how correct my predictions are.


where are they then Cheesy LOL
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Reply #38 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:21pm
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

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Reply #39 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 10:37pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:21pm:
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

Sometimes I amaze myself by how correct my predictions are.


Where are they ??: Cheesy LOL
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Reply #40 - Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:10pm
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

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Reply #41 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 11:22am
 
juliar wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:10pm:
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

Sometimes I amaze myself by how correct my predictions are.


20 years ago they said they would be available in 20 years time but where are they today ?  Maybe you need to wait another 20 years Cheesy LOL
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Reply #42 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 8:52pm
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

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Reply #43 - Jul 2nd, 2019 at 9:41pm
 
Where have all the hydrogen cars gone....far far away..... Cheesy LOL
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Reply #44 - Jul 3rd, 2019 at 9:48am
 
Like I pointed out so correctly, as soon as the looney Greenies like Tweedledumb and Tweedledee smell HYDROGEN they go berserk.

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