juliar wrote on Jul 30^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:


Child, this is where you're wrong.

Hydrogen is the future.  I actually support it.  Renewable play a big part in harvesting it mind you, but overall, Hydrogen is the future.

The problem is, even when people agree with you, if they don't agree 100%, only say, 90% you'll focus on the 10% that we differ, like you and I, and be a whiney little bitch about it.

So why don't you take your pointless insults directed towards me, one of the few people who would have supported you in this thread if you weren't such a colossal arse hole, and shut the flap up?

You ruin every thread you post in, even if you start it, by being such a cry baby and needing to attack people at every turn.

And that's how you treat people who agree with you... With friends like that...

Scunge the IGNORANCE VIRUS strikes again to display her utter OFF TOPIC SPAM ignorance and to continue her HATE session with me. Just how stupid is this creature ?

I am impressed that the Sadly Kangyroo seems to a good bloke after all. Beauty mate keep going like that and you will be listened to.

Sadly Kangyroo, why do you even bother coming here ?

Just to vent you spleen on other far more skilled people ?

It is far harder to actually contribute something interesting and relevant to a topic than it is to just slang off at other posters you are jealous of.

But continue on as your hate session is like water on a duck's back to me.

The silly fool Ignorance Virus thinks she has found a compatriot.

Now I have 2 silly loony Greenies having HATE Sessions with me because they are so jealous of my obvious superior education, ability, and intelligence that they now worship the ground I walk on and see me as their HERO they would like to emulate.

Unfortunately I couldn't give a damn about such inferior inadequate creatures.

And they will keep following me around like lost puppies hoping some of my brilliance might rub off onto them.

Now I have humiliated the silly Greeny fool she just can't stay away from me as I am now her HERO as I am the only one who even acknowledges she exists. Everyone else just ignores her because she is so dumb and thick and dense - a senseless Greeny Climate Warrior.

Bet she comes back to continue her HATE session with me.  It is fun to stir up these inadequate inferior creatures who are so sad.

My Goodness the Sadly Kangyroo is slowly coming around.

The simple FACT that countries all around the world are building up their hydrogen infrastructure would tend to suggest it is not just some silly fad.

Hydrogen is the only viable energy source after oil gets scarce for transport both small and large.

Electric toy cars are dangerous and of very little practical use except for short commuter trips where the user has access to recharge facilities. They have the fundamental problem that if the toy car is loaded up then the lithium battery overheats and then there is a very real risk it might explode into a fiery inferno as has already happened many times.

You may have seen on the TV the pollution problem in Jakarta in Indonesia. This is largely caused by car and diesel truck exhausts and coal power stations. A major cause of pollution is the diesel trucks moving containers from the wharves.

Now large trucks cannot be powered by batteries but they can be powered by hydrogen and so can cars and so can large industrial and mining and agricultural machines.

A simple minded person would say Jakarta needs electric cars but these cause massive pollution when recharging from the coal power stations. The very few people who can recharge with solar panels would make no difference.

In Los Angeles there are hydrogen trucks already being trialed moving containers from the wharves.

Wind and solar farms are basically useless for powering industry but they are quite suitable for powering electrolyzers splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen and this is already being done in Germany and other countries.

Hydrogen can be used to store energy and exported as ammonia. Japan is going full bore to a hydrogen economy and wants to import hydrogen from Australia.

Now I have given you an excellent introduction to the obvious future hydrogen energy revolution. You may choose to mock and knock this if you will but frankly I could not give a damn.

And speak of the devil err Hydrogen.


Hydrogen energy production. These are being built all around the world as it prepares for the oil to hydrogen transition.




Jemena buys electrolyser for NSW as industry eyes mammoth hydrogen opportunities
Michael Mazengarb 31 July 2019



Gas retailer Jemena has confirmed the purchase of the first electrolyser in NSW that will trial the ability to convert wind and solar power to zero emissions hydrogen and inject it into the mains gas supply in the state.

Jemena will install the 500kW electrolyser in Western Sydney, where it will supplement some of the existing natural gas supply, potentially as much as 10 per cent, allowing the hydrogen to be used towards cooking, heating and hot water in homes and businesses.



“We are making a significant investment in technology to demonstrate the network is ready to deliver clean, safe and sustainable green gas to customers,” Jemena’s general manager for strategy and commercial Gabrielle Sycamore said.

“Customers are increasingly looking for sustainable energy solutions, and Jemena believes renewable gases such as hydrogen and biomethane can play an important role in meeting the NSW Government’s objective of net zero emissions by 2050.”



Speaking at the Australian Clean Energy Summit, head of strategy at Siemens Martin Hablutzel, said that the domestic use of hydrogen in Australia is a good opportunity to build local knowledge around hydrogen projection that could be used as a platform to hydrogen exports.

“It’s hugely important. Building a domestic industry builds out the skills, the technical capability and the capacity to be able to position to develop an export industry of the scale we are talking about,” Hablutzel said.


We could produce hydrogen fairly cheap with renewable energies where the resources are good. But if there is no use for it then there’s really no point. So some of the applications, like green gas injection does help build the deployment  experience and build social acceptance.”

“You learn best by doing,” Hablutzel added.


“If you’ve got domestic off-takers that helps hedge your export offtake risk, with more people you can sell to,” Reeve said.

In his address to the Clean Energy Summit, Australia’s Chief Scientist Alan Finkel, who is currently leading work on the development of the National Hydrogen Strategy, made a case for producing hydrogen from coal and gas resources, providing an additional source of clean energy, provided production is adequately paired with carbon capture and storage.

The suggestion from Finkel was motivated by concerns that wind and solar would not provide a sufficient level of diversity in a decarbonised economy.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/jemena-buys-electrolyser-for-nsw-as-industry-eyes-ma...

London is not mucking around as they already have working Hydrogen refuel stations up and running in preparation for the transition to hydrogen when oil gets scarce.



NEW SHELL HYDROGEN FUELLING STATION OPENED AT BEACONSFIELD
27TH MARCH 2018


Beaconsfield Hydrogen Station with Shell

ITM Power (AIM: ITM), the energy storage and clean fuel company, notes the announcement by Shell that the hydrogen refuelling station – the first ‘under the canopy’ in the UK – at Beaconsfield Services on the M40 has opened today.

This new hydrogen refuelling station, situated at one of the busiest service stations in the UK, will be fully owned and operated by ITM Power.  The text of the announcement by Shell is set out below:

SHELL AND ITM POWER BOOST UK HYDROGEN INFRASTRUCTURE WITH NEW FUELLING STATION AT BEACONSFIELD

Beaconsfield site is UK’s first ‘under the canopy’ Hydrogen refuelling station

LONDON, UK, 27 March 2018 – Today, Shell has announced the opening of a new hydrogen refuelling station at Shell Beaconsfield in Buckinghamshire. Supplied by ITM Power, this opening follows the launch of the first fully branded and public hydrogen refuelling site in the UK at Shell Cobham in February 2017.

Situated at one of the UK’s busiest service stations, Shell Beaconsfield on the M40 will be the first site in the UK to bring hydrogen under the same canopy as petrol and diesel, providing drivers with a range of fuel choices to co-exist with traditional transport fuels. The hydrogen is generated on-site using an electrolyser that requires only water and electricity to generate the hydrogen gas.

Hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles convert hydrogen into electricity to power the engine and produce only heat and water when driven. They can travel up to 700 kilometres on a single tank and can be refuelled in a few minutes.

Mike Copson, Hydrogen Business Development Manager at Shell, said: “We’re delighted to be opening a new refuelling site at Shell Beaconsfield, demonstrating our ongoing commitment to hydrogen as a vital part of the UK’s future transport system. Bringing hydrogen under the canopy for the first time is a fantastic step towards making it a convenient and viable fuel choice for UK drivers.”

The hydrogen station at Beaconsfield is the fifth hydrogen refuelling site in the UK to be supplied by ITM Power and will be the first to be opened as part of the H2ME project. The initiative has been partially funded by the European Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Joint Undertaking (FCH JU), and the UK’s Office of Low Emission Vehicles (OLEV).

Dr. Graham Cooley, CEO of ITM Power, said: “ITM Power is pleased to open this new hydrogen station in Beaconsfield which is the first to sit on the main forecourt, alongside the petrol and diesel pumps. This shows a big step forward in offering Shell customers a clean, green fuel, which is generated on-site, eliminating fuel deliveries. We look forward to working alongside Shell to deploy further stations and grow the hydrogen refuelling infrastructure in the UK.”

FCH JU Executive Director Bart Biebuyck said: “The FCH JU is proud to see its support significantly boosting market entry of hydrogen technologies for clean mobility. The opening of this new station at the Beaconsfield forecourt proves that hydrogen is now even more the fuel of the future, and is ready to offer an everyday green solution to citizens. We need to continue building on these achievements, and enable the transition towards a low-carbon transport system.”

Today’s hydrogen station opening follows a number of recent Shell initiatives to support the UK’s transition to low-carbon transport. These include the launch of Shell ReCharge, Shell’s on-forecourt rapid electric vehicle charging service; an agreement with charging network operator IONITY to offer charge points across ten European countries; and the acquisition of NewMotion, one of Europe’s largest electric vehicle charging networks.

http://www.itm-power.com/news-item/new-shell-fuelling-station-opened-at-beaconsf...