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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Indonesian law spreading Islamism Reply #60 - May 31^st, 2019 at 12:05pm freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 11:52am: they were banned for their policy of overthrowing the government. Is 'their policy' something they 'say' FD? Did you really mean that Indonesian Islamists can say whatever they want - unless its written down as a policy?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51163 At my desk.	Re: Indonesian law spreading Islamism Reply #61 - May 31^st, 2019 at 2:00pm I expect that for the most part, it is written down. What point are you trying to make Gandalf?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Indonesian law spreading Islamism Reply #62 - May 31^st, 2019 at 2:57pm oh you don't get the point I am making FD? Is what they have "mostly written down" considered something they 'say'? Do you think Ahok would have been spared gaol if only he had written his blasphemy down and presented it as "official policy"?
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Reply #63 - May 31^st, 2019 at 5:00pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 2:57pm:

oh you don't get the point I am making FD?

Is what they have "mostly written down" considered something they 'say'?

Do you think Ahok would have been spared gaol if only he had written his blasphemy down and presented it as "official policy"?

Sure. He was arrested for what he said about the Quran, not for his policy.

Ahok was jailed for his interpretation of Islam. HT were banned because they want to overthrow the government. Not sure why you struggle so much with the distinction Gandalf.

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #64 - May 31^st, 2019 at 5:57pm

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 5:00pm:

HT were banned because they want to overthrow the government.

And they expressed this somehow without actually saying it. Amazing.

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Not sure why you struggle so much with the distinction Gandalf.

The distinction between what they say and what their policy is? Its true, I am struggling with that distinction.

A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #65 - May 31^st, 2019 at 8:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 5:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2019 at 5:00pm:

HT were banned because they want to overthrow the government.

And they expressed this somehow without actually saying it. Amazing.

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Not sure why you struggle so much with the distinction Gandalf.

The distinction between what they say and what their policy is? Its true, I am struggling with that distinction.

You are a Hizbi.

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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