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V12 LS Engine - Made in Australia
May 10th, 2019 at 10:44am
 
Thought I'd give everyone a break from Tesla related threads. Pity Holden weren't making these before they stopped manufacturing permanently:



http://racecast.com.au/
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Reply #1 - May 10th, 2019 at 1:34pm
 
The brutal unions made sure Holden had to leave Australia.

Wonder how they get the V12 to meet the emission reqs ?

The fuel thirst would be frightening!!! A V8 is bad enough.

Does it have twin turbos ?
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Reply #2 - May 10th, 2019 at 2:02pm
 
juliar wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 1:34pm:
The brutal unions made sure Holden had to leave Australia.

Wonder how they get the V12 to meet the emission reqs ?

The fuel thirst would be frightening!!! A V8 is bad enough.

Does it have twin turbos ?


Holden and Ford failed because they were foreign owned. Their foreign owners would not tolerate them competing in the owner's markets. Their products just became copies of their foreign owner's products financed by Australian government subsidies.
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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2019 at 2:36pm
 
Total rubbish from a Lefty of course.

The excessive union demands simply made Ford and Holden and Toyota unprofitable here in Australia.

Australia's small population meant Ford and Holden and Toyota had to export and there they never stood a chance competing with overseas firms.

Ford and Holden ONLY persisted because the Labor "Govt" was laundering taxpayers' money through Ford and Holden to pay for the greedy unions excessive demands.

But eventually this illegal laundering of taxpayers' money had to stop.
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Reply #4 - May 10th, 2019 at 2:54pm
 
juliar wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
Total rubbish from a Lefty of course.

The excessive union demands simply made Ford and Holden and Toyota unprofitable here in Australia.

Australia's small population meant Ford and Holden and Toyota had to export and there they never stood a chance competing with overseas firms.

Ford and Holden ONLY persisted because the Labor "Govt" was laundering taxpayers' money through Ford and Holden to pay for the greedy unions excessive demands.

But eventually this illegal laundering of taxpayers' money had to stop.



Total oversimplification. Yes the unions were a part, but also the diversity of cars in the market, outside costs etc.
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Reply #5 - May 10th, 2019 at 3:53pm
 
Extraordinary BH on topic!!!

But an oversimplification.

Ford and Holden knew they could not go on forever with Labor Govt illegal handouts and so they did not invest in any new models.

So what they did was just tinker with the existing models until the end came.

And so Ford and Holden were able to exit the Australian market and get away from the vicious union brutality without any huge losses in new manufacturing equipment.

Toyota quickly realized Australia was a dead end with only a small local market and ever present vicious union parasites everywhere.

And of course Ford and Holden with their excessive union costs could not compete with the much cheaper imported models.
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Reply #6 - May 10th, 2019 at 4:52pm
 
The traitors that didn't buy Ford or Holden (they were world class cars) are now paying through the nose for repairs, servicing and updating, a BMW is worth nothing second hand these days.

Hockey should have propped up the industry as the yanks have done, he is a big fat cigar smoking poof.

The Jabiru airplane engine is made here and is a winner.
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Reply #7 - May 10th, 2019 at 5:44pm
 
Bojack Horseman wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:54pm:
juliar wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
Total rubbish from a Lefty of course.

The excessive union demands simply made Ford and Holden and Toyota unprofitable here in Australia.

Australia's small population meant Ford and Holden and Toyota had to export and there they never stood a chance competing with overseas firms.

Ford and Holden ONLY persisted because the Labor "Govt" was laundering taxpayers' money through Ford and Holden to pay for the greedy unions excessive demands.

But eventually this illegal laundering of taxpayers' money had to stop.



Total oversimplification. Yes the unions were a part, but also the diversity of cars in the market, outside costs etc.


the automobile industry is even more heavily unionised in Germany than here, why do they still have a car industry?

Blaming unions is lazy.
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Reply #8 - May 10th, 2019 at 5:57pm
 
It wasn’t complicated but partisan cretins from both sides think the answer lies totally with one side.  Idiots of the left blame Joe but forget about Mitsubishi, idiots of the right blame unions. 

The simple answer was at the end of long supply chain and unattached to large close by markets the car industry was becoming unsustainable in the face of imports that better matched what the public was wanting to buy and the costs of investment meant retooling was impossible. Who would pay?

We did not have economies of scale in suppliers nor vast local markets. It was as if three car manufacturers were making artisan cars for a single New York sized city, population wise but spread over a continent.

If anything it is amazing they lasted as long as they could, car making here was expensive and not efficient financially if you expect a return on investment.
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Reply #9 - May 11th, 2019 at 6:30am
 
so they are made for drag cars I take it, I hope they do well, lots of rev heads out there.... Baron needs one for his Torana... Wink
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Reply #10 - May 11th, 2019 at 8:18am
 
Both the Ford & Holden design centres are still operating here in Australia.

Says something about both those teams....... Cool

Both produced their finest cars (world class) in the last models imo and then they shut shop and ran..... Huh

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Reply #11 - May 12th, 2019 at 12:50pm
 
juliar wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 1:34pm:
The brutal unions made sure Holden had to leave Australia.

Wonder how they get the V12 to meet the emission reqs ?

The fuel thirst would be frightening!!! A V8 is bad enough.

Does it have twin turbos ?


Bullshit. It was Abort who stopped giving them corporate welfare ! Stop making up lies socko.
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Reply #12 - May 12th, 2019 at 12:53pm
 
minarchist wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 10:44am:
Thought I'd give everyone a break from Tesla related threads. Pity Holden weren't making these before they stopped manufacturing permanently:



http://racecast.com.au/


Oh great ! Aussies going back to the past with yet another reinvention of the wheel ! Cheesy LOL 
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Re: V12 LS Engine - Made in Australia
Reply #13 - May 12th, 2019 at 12:56pm
 
juliar wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
Total rubbish from a Lefty of course.

The excessive union demands simply made Ford and Holden and Toyota unprofitable here in Australia.

Australia's small population meant Ford and Holden and Toyota had to export and there they never stood a chance competing with overseas firms.

Ford and Holden ONLY persisted because the Labor "Govt" was laundering taxpayers' money through Ford and Holden to pay for the greedy unions excessive demands.

But eventually this illegal laundering of taxpayers' money had to stop.


So how come germany can sustain a highly unionized car manufacturing industry and export luxury cars to Australia and the rest of the world ? Perhaps the key is that Germans own those brands and can export them to anywhere they like but we own nothing and take our orders from detroit and tokyo which was always going to end up a disaster !
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Re: V12 LS Engine - Made in Australia
Reply #14 - May 12th, 2019 at 1:07pm
 
Ajax wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 8:18am:
Both the Ford & Holden design centres are still operating here in Australia.

Says something about both those teams....... Cool

Both produced their finest cars (world class) in the last models imo and then they shut shop and ran..... Huh

https://i.ibb.co/CWQpXL6/GTSHSV.jpg


I hope they are not getting a single cent of government handouts. Let them paddle their own canoes now. They had their go Sad
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