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Will the LHC destroy the world?
Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:20pm
 
Will the LHC destroy the world?




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CERN's Large Hadron Collider will NOT destroy our planet. But many of you asked about it - and the "scenarios" are a good excuse to discuss some cool physics.



Dr Tony Padilla discusses a few doomsday theories from the very centre of the famed accelerator ring. Stand back and keep an eye out for black holes and strangelets!!!



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Reply #1 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:22pm
 
The Most Dangerous Stuff in the Universe -
Strange Stars Explained.




Inside neutron stars we can find the weirdest and most dangerous substance in the universe: Strange matter. What is strange matter, how dangerous is it and what can it tell us about the origin of the universe?
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Reply #2 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 10:25pm
 
Could a Particle Accelerator Destroy Earth?




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You may have heard theories that particle accelerators could destroy earth by creating strange matter, an accidental black hole, or by tearing the fabric of spacetime itself. But is there any real science behind these claims?
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Reply #3 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:33pm
 
Science has been destroying the World for over a century!
All the problems of the world, come by way of Science and its innovations.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #4 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:45pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:33pm:
Science has been destroying the World for over a century!
All the problems of the world, come by way of Science and its innovations.



Tiny black holes seem to be no problem as they have almost no mass
so their gravity is too small to grow &
they evaporate in less than a nanosecond however -

strangelets are stable and seem dangerous.

Watch the videos & see for yourself.
They seem to be making strangelets at the LHC.
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Reply #5 - Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:52pm
 
Science is like a woman.
It has eaten from the  Tree of Knowledge.
It is woman that defied God, by entrusting the Snake Satan... who is also a Woman.
Man followed the intellectual Lead of a Woman.
Because when you plant your seed inside the body of a woman.
She plants a dream inside your mind. Wink
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Reply #6 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 12:11am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:45pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:33pm:
Science has been destroying the World for over a century!
All the problems of the world, come by way of Science and its innovations.



Tiny black holes seem to be no problem as they have almost no mass
so their gravity is too small to grow &
they evaporate in less than a nanosecond however -

strangelets are stable and seem dangerous.

Watch the videos & see for yourself.
They seem to be making strangelets at the LHC.


There is NO risk. Collisions of much more extreme nature happen all the time in the universe.
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Reply #7 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:01am
 
Super Nova wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 12:11am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:45pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 11:33pm:
Science has been destroying the World for over a century!
All the problems of the world, come by way of Science and its innovations.



Tiny black holes seem to be no problem as they have almost no mass
so their gravity is too small to grow &
they evaporate in less than a nanosecond however -

strangelets are stable and seem dangerous.

Watch the videos & see for yourself.
They seem to be making strangelets at the LHC.


There is NO risk. Collisions of much more extreme nature happen all the time in the universe.


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One fear is that the LHC could produce black holes. Black holes are regions in which matter collapses into a point of infinite density. CERN scientists admit that the LHC could produce black holes, but they also say those black holes would be on a subatomic scale and would collapse almost instantly. In contrast, the black holes astronomers study result from an entire star collapsing in on itself. There's a big difference between the mass of a star and that of a proton.
Another concern is that the LHC will produce an exotic (and so far hypothetical) material called strangelets. One possible trait of strangelets is particularly worrisome. Cosmologists theorize that strangelets could possess a powerful gravitational field that might allow them to convert the entire planet into a lifeless hulk.
Scientists at LHC dismiss this concern using multiple counterpoints. First, they point out that strangelets are hypothetical. No one has observed such material in the universe. Second, they say that the electromagnetic field around such material would repel normal matter rather than change it into something else. Third, they say that even if such matter exists, it would be highly unstable and would decay almost instantaneously. Fourth, the scientists say that high-energy cosmic rays should produce such material naturally. Since the Earth is still around, they theorize that strangelets are a non-issue.
Another theoretical particle the LHC might generate is a magnetic monopole. Theorized by P.A.M. Dirac, a monopole is a particle that holds a single magnetic charge (north or south) instead of two. The concern Wagner and Sancho cited is that such particles could pull matter apart with their lopsided magnetic charges. CERN scientists disagree, saying that if monopoles exist, there's no reason to fear that such particles would cause such destruction. In fact, at least one team of researchers is actively looking for evidence of monopoles with the hopes that the LHC will produce some.
Other concerns about the LHC include fears of radiation and the fact that it will produce the highest energy collisions of particles on Earth. CERN states that the LHC is extremely safe, with thick shielding that includes 100 meters (328 feet) of earth on top of it. In addition, personnel are not allowed underground during experiments. As for the concern about collisions, scientists point out that high-energy cosmic ray collisions happen all the time in nature. Rays collide with the sun, moon and other planets, all of which are still around with no sign of harm. With the LHC, those collisions will happen within a controlled environment. Otherwise, there's really no difference.
Will the LHC succeed in furthering our knowledge about the universe? Will the data collected raise more questions than it answers? If past experiments are any indication, it's probably a safe bet to assume the answer to both of these questions is yes
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Reply #8 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:27am
 
The greatest discovery Science will ever make is the mortality of Humanity's doom.
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Reply #9 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:55am
 
Super Nova,
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Another concern is that the LHC will produce an exotic (and so far hypothetical) material called strangelets. One possible trait of strangelets is particularly worrisome. Cosmologists theorize that strangelets could possess a powerful gravitational field that might allow them to convert the entire planet into a lifeless hulk.
Scientists at LHC dismiss this concern using multiple counterpoints. First, they point out that strangelets are hypothetical. No one has observed such material in the universe. Second, they say that the electromagnetic field around such material would repel normal matter rather than change it into something else. Third, they say that even if such matter exists, it would be highly unstable and would decay almost instantaneously. Fourth, the scientists say that high-energy cosmic rays should produce such material naturally. Since the Earth is still around, they theorize that strangelets are a non-issue.



Actually - according to the 3 videos I posted strangelets are highly stable.
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Reply #10 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:55am:
Super Nova,
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Another concern is that the LHC will produce an exotic (and so far hypothetical) material called strangelets. One possible trait of strangelets is particularly worrisome. Cosmologists theorize that strangelets could possess a powerful gravitational field that might allow them to convert the entire planet into a lifeless hulk.
Scientists at LHC dismiss this concern using multiple counterpoints. First, they point out that strangelets are hypothetical. No one has observed such material in the universe. Second, they say that the electromagnetic field around such material would repel normal matter rather than change it into something else. Third, they say that even if such matter exists, it would be highly unstable and would decay almost instantaneously. Fourth, the scientists say that high-energy cosmic rays should produce such material naturally. Since the Earth is still around, they theorize that strangelets are a non-issue.



Actually - according to the 3 videos I posted strangelets are highly stable.


…. and would decay almost instantaneously.

No threat to us.
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Reply #11 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:48pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:55am:
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Another concern is that the LHC will produce an exotic (and so far hypothetical) material called strangelets. One possible trait of strangelets is particularly worrisome. Cosmologists theorize that strangelets could possess a powerful gravitational field that might allow them to convert the entire planet into a lifeless hulk.
Scientists at LHC dismiss this concern using multiple counterpoints. First, they point out that strangelets are hypothetical. No one has observed such material in the universe. Second, they say that the electromagnetic field around such material would repel normal matter rather than change it into something else. Third, they say that even if such matter exists, it would be highly unstable and would decay almost instantaneously. Fourth, the scientists say that high-energy cosmic rays should produce such material naturally. Since the Earth is still around, they theorize that strangelets are a non-issue.



Actually - according to the 3 videos I posted strangelets are highly stable.


…. and would decay almost instantaneously.

No threat to us.




No -  stable means it won't decay - that's the problem.
Watch the videos - they are scary.
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Reply #12 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 4:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Super Nova wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:55am:
Super Nova,
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Another concern is that the LHC will produce an exotic (and so far hypothetical) material called strangelets. One possible trait of strangelets is particularly worrisome. Cosmologists theorize that strangelets could possess a powerful gravitational field that might allow them to convert the entire planet into a lifeless hulk.
Scientists at LHC dismiss this concern using multiple counterpoints. First, they point out that strangelets are hypothetical. No one has observed such material in the universe. Second, they say that the electromagnetic field around such material would repel normal matter rather than change it into something else. Third, they say that even if such matter exists, it would be highly unstable and would decay almost instantaneously. Fourth, the scientists say that high-energy cosmic rays should produce such material naturally. Since the Earth is still around, they theorize that strangelets are a non-issue.



Actually - according to the 3 videos I posted strangelets are highly stable.


…. and would decay almost instantaneously.

No threat to us.




No -  stable means it won't decay - that's the problem.
Watch the videos - they are scary.


I watched the video. I suggest you re-watch it and watch what is said near the end.

The LHC doesn't produce anything that doesn't occur continually in the universe. Nothing to be afraid of.
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Reply #13 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 4:10pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Super Nova wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 5:55am:
Super Nova,
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Another concern is that the LHC will produce an exotic (and so far hypothetical) material called strangelets. One possible trait of strangelets is particularly worrisome. Cosmologists theorize that strangelets could possess a powerful gravitational field that might allow them to convert the entire planet into a lifeless hulk.
Scientists at LHC dismiss this concern using multiple counterpoints. First, they point out that strangelets are hypothetical. No one has observed such material in the universe. Second, they say that the electromagnetic field around such material would repel normal matter rather than change it into something else. Third, they say that even if such matter exists, it would be highly unstable and would decay almost instantaneously. Fourth, the scientists say that high-energy cosmic rays should produce such material naturally. Since the Earth is still around, they theorize that strangelets are a non-issue.



Actually - according to the 3 videos I posted strangelets are highly stable.


…. and would decay almost instantaneously.

No threat to us.




No -  stable means it won't decay - that's the problem.
Watch the videos - they are scary.


I watched the video. I suggest you re-watch it and watch what is said near the end.

The LHC doesn't produce anything that doesn't occur continually in the universe. Nothing to be afraid of.



Yes - the first video is the least concerning.
Strangelets do exist inside Neutron Stars.
They are still of concern if one could be made
it would start turning everything it touched into a larger strangelet.


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Reply #14 - Apr 30th, 2019 at 4:15pm
 
The only thing that will happen to the LHC is that it will soon collapse into a black hole of wasted Funds and never be seen again as they have to scrap it to sell to help repay the Debts that it accumulated for being the greatest Scientific waste of time and money. It's the Science version of Disneyland. Where Scientists can go and play 'Science' in a 'recreational' way bearing no importance at all - beyond other people having paid for it. Roll Eyes
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