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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21163 Gender:	Re: climate skeptics: sun farts black holes at us Reply #75 - Apr 21^st, 2019 at 8:32pm freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 8:08pm: Thanks Lee. Once again, a climate skeptic posts the evidence that proves himself wrong. No petal. What did you not understand. Not all scientists agree. It may be the start; it may not be. You clearly do not understand English; let alone science.
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Reply #76 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 8:26am

freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 7:08pm:

Ehrlich is not the only one saying this. By your logic the earth would be flat after he said it was round.

Where did Ajax get to? We never got an explanation for his time travelling climate scientists. Should we chalk that one up to just another lie from a climate skeptic?

What is there to explain......???

This hysteria has been going on for a while.

All thanks to climate scientists.

September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

May 1947 - arctic melting

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22429983?searchTerm=climate%20change&sea...

November 1922 - arctic melting

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

And in 1970 they told us we are heading for global cooling...

Bit hard to read here is what is says straight from Wikipedia FD....you believe them don't you......?!?!

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Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. Press reports at the time did not accurately reflect the scientific literature.[1] The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth underwent global warming throughout the 20th century and continues to warm.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

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Reply #77 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 11:24am

Even then wiki gets it wrong -

Ajax wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 8:26am:

Press reports at the time did not accurately reflect the scientific literature.

If you go to -

https://notrickszone.com/285-papers-70s-cooling-1/

You will see the start. Then look at the right margin and go to pages 2 and 3.

So apparently,according to wiki 285 papers did not represent the scientific literature. Roll Eyes

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Reply #79 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:29pm

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:24pm:

Summer sea ice coverage in the arctic has reduced 40% since 1980.

September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

It decreased by 40% in 1957 too......???

Does that mean there's only 20% of ice left.....??

OR

Does it mean it decreases 40% every year or there abouts.... Wink

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Reply #80 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:31pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 8:26am:

freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 7:08pm:

Ehrlich is not the only one saying this. By your logic the earth would be flat after he said it was round.

Where did Ajax get to? We never got an explanation for his time travelling climate scientists. Should we chalk that one up to just another lie from a climate skeptic?

What is there to explain......???

It's in the opening post. You also obfuscated for several pages in the previous thread. It seems that every climate skeptic here behaves this way. Post endless lies and then duck and weave for pages if any of them get called out.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120834 Melbourne Gender:	Re: climate skeptics: sun farts black holes at us Reply #81 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:31pm freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:24pm: Summer sea ice coverage in the arctic has reduced 40% since 1980. Hi FD, can you move this thread to the environment forum please?
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Reply #82 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:31pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 8:26am:

freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 7:08pm:

Ehrlich is not the only one saying this. By your logic the earth would be flat after he said it was round.

Where did Ajax get to? We never got an explanation for his time travelling climate scientists. Should we chalk that one up to just another lie from a climate skeptic?

What is there to explain......???

It's in the opening post. You also obfuscated for several pages in the previous thread. It seems that every climate skeptic here behaves this way. Post endless lies and then duck and weave for pages if any of them get called out.

I'm not going to explain something to you that is self explanatory......!!!

Read those old newspapers that's why I'm posting them.

These nut jobs have been trying to do a number on us all for a very long time.

I suppose if you were around in the 1970's you would be telling us all that we are headed for a glacial period unless we pay some monies to the stock market and 10% of that to the UNFCC.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21163 Gender:	Re: climate skeptics: sun farts black holes at us Reply #83 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 2:27pm freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:24pm: Summer sea ice coverage in the arctic has reduced 40% since 1980. Oh dear. Climate changes. Who knew? What about the Arctic being sailed in 1879? Must have been ice free. Damn inconvenient these facts.
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Reply #84 - Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 2:53pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:36pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 1:31pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 8:26am:

freediver wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 7:08pm:

Ehrlich is not the only one saying this. By your logic the earth would be flat after he said it was round.

Where did Ajax get to? We never got an explanation for his time travelling climate scientists. Should we chalk that one up to just another lie from a climate skeptic?

What is there to explain......???

It's in the opening post. You also obfuscated for several pages in the previous thread. It seems that every climate skeptic here behaves this way. Post endless lies and then duck and weave for pages if any of them get called out.

I'm not going to explain something to you that is self explanatory......!!!

Read those old newspapers that's why I'm posting them.

These nut jobs have been trying to do a number on us all for a very long time.

I suppose if you were around in the 1970's you would be telling us all that we are headed for a glacial period unless we pay some monies to the stock market and 10% of that to the UNFCC.

Which is the one that explains your time travelling climate scientist theory?

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Reply #85 - Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:26am

freediver wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2019 at 2:53pm:

Which is the one that explains your time travelling climate scientist theory?

Ok you want time travel, here it is, but I know you know what I mean.... Grin

1. November 1922 - arctic melting

2. May 1947 - arctic melting

3. September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

4. 1970's a 180 degree turn from global warming to global cooling.

5. 1980's another 180 degree turn from global cooling to global warming.

Clear as mud now.

Beam me up scotty................. Tongue

1. November 1922 - arctic melting

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

2. May 1947 - arctic melting

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22429983?searchTerm=climate%20change&sea...

3. September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

4. 1970's switched from global warming to global cooling they told us we are heading for global cooling...

Bit hard to read here is what is says straight from Wikipedia FD....you believe them don't you......?!?!

Quote:

Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. Press reports at the time did not accurately reflect the scientific literature.[1] The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth underwent global warming throughout the 20th century and continues to warm.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

5. 1980's back to global warming

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53257 At my desk.	Re: climate skeptics: sun farts black holes at us Reply #86 - Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:41am And climate skeptics think they were all the same people?
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Reply #87 - Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:45am

Ajax wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:26am:

Quote:Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. Press reports at the time did not accurately reflect the scientific literature.[1] The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth underwent global warming throughout the 20th century and continues to warm.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Ahh yes you forgot this part
1970s awareness
Climate scientists were aware that predictions based on this trend were not possible - because the trend was poorly studied and not understood (for example see reference[17]). Despite that, in the popular press the possibility of cooling was reported generally without the caveats present in the scientific reports, and "unusually severe winters in Asia and parts of North America in 1972 and 1973...pushed the issue into the public consciousness"

so the popular press though it was going to cool , not the Climate scientists, good catch there ajax Wink

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53257 At my desk.	Re: climate skeptics: sun farts black holes at us Reply #88 - Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:49am Oh look, a climate skeptic discrediting them self with their own evidence. Again.
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Reply #89 - Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:58am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:45am:

Ajax wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2019 at 8:26am:

Quote:Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. Press reports at the time did not accurately reflect the scientific literature.[1] The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth underwent global warming throughout the 20th century and continues to warm.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Ahh yes you forgot this part
1970s awareness
Climate scientists were aware that predictions based on this trend were not possible - because the trend was poorly studied and not understood (for example see reference[17]). Despite that, in the popular press the possibility of cooling was reported generally without the caveats present in the scientific reports, and "unusually severe winters in Asia and parts of North America in 1972 and 1973...pushed the issue into the public consciousness"

so the popular press though it was going to cool , not the Climate scientists, good catch there ajax Wink

Not unlike today were the media have absolutely runaway with AGW.

Politicians have embraced it as SAVE THE WORLD.

And anyone who has doubts including scientist are shunned and given no air time.

Its become a sin to be a sceptic...!!

Yet for science to work they must always be sceptical.

The prediction of the computer models was wrong.

Therefore the theory of AGW is wrong.......!

That's all there is to it.

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