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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45454	Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month! Reply #30 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 1:02pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 12:53pm: For being a prat...tsk rsk. Speaking from experience as the prat-in-chief, Hammer?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 54881 Gender:	Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month! Reply #31 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 6:58pm Woman takes down last ISIS flag - now safe for refugee men to return to Syria https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2019/04/woman-takes-down-last-isis-flag-now-saf... Exactly.
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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #32 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 3:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:25pm:

They are pulling down old houses everywhere and building boxes of air to house more immigrants. This is the only economy they have and they know it. But like all ponzi schemes they eventually fizzle out Wink

The problem is the roads.
they are even clogged on weekends yet alone at week day peak hours.

The Answer? Build more roads. Even better, build more train and tram lines... Get the people out of their cars and off the roads. Roll Eyes

It's too late - we should have built them 50 years ago.
When I was in Paris the first time in 1985 -
you could get a train to the airport &
go up a long escalator to the baggage check in -
you could take the TGV fast train from Paris to Lyon in only 2 hours -
I did both many times.
We haven't even reached that stage of advancement 34 years later.
I would say 50 years behind is about right and we didn't have to
rebuild our country after it was flattened in WW2.

Australians are the champions of mediocrity.

You are a victim of the politics of jealousy it appears, Bobby.

France is a small country, compared to Australia. VFT are not economic in Australia because of the distances and the relatively low passenger numbers. Rebuilding France was necessary after WWII, so they got rid of a lot of their old infrastructure. We have a lot still dating back to the turn of the 20th century. We could demolish Sydney and Melbourne and start again, I suppose. It'd be more economic in the long run... Roll Eyes

Just excuses from you -
typical Aussie excuses -
aww - Australia is too large -
aww - our population is too small.

Ignore reality, all you like, while the rest of us get on living in it, Bobby. Roll Eyes

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Melbourne and Sydney are 2 of the largest villages in the world -
they bear little resemblance to the great cities of the world
like London, Paris & New York.

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

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Melbourne still doesn't have a train line to the airport -
that is shocking urban planning.

Oh, I agree. See my previous comment just above this, Bobby. Only Adelaide and Canberra and to a lesser extent Perth are actually planned in Australia. All three lack an adequate transport system though. All Australian cities are overly reliant on the car for personal transport. Such a silly predicament, when fossil fuels are going out of fashion. Roll Eyes

You have put your finger on it, pearl-clutcher.

It is nothing but a fashion.

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #33 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:05pm

Frank wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 3:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:25pm:

They are pulling down old houses everywhere and building boxes of air to house more immigrants. This is the only economy they have and they know it. But like all ponzi schemes they eventually fizzle out Wink

The problem is the roads.
they are even clogged on weekends yet alone at week day peak hours.

The Answer? Build more roads. Even better, build more train and tram lines... Get the people out of their cars and off the roads. Roll Eyes

It's too late - we should have built them 50 years ago.
When I was in Paris the first time in 1985 -
you could get a train to the airport &
go up a long escalator to the baggage check in -
you could take the TGV fast train from Paris to Lyon in only 2 hours -
I did both many times.
We haven't even reached that stage of advancement 34 years later.
I would say 50 years behind is about right and we didn't have to
rebuild our country after it was flattened in WW2.

Australians are the champions of mediocrity.

You are a victim of the politics of jealousy it appears, Bobby.

France is a small country, compared to Australia. VFT are not economic in Australia because of the distances and the relatively low passenger numbers. Rebuilding France was necessary after WWII, so they got rid of a lot of their old infrastructure. We have a lot still dating back to the turn of the 20th century. We could demolish Sydney and Melbourne and start again, I suppose. It'd be more economic in the long run... Roll Eyes

Just excuses from you -
typical Aussie excuses -
aww - Australia is too large -
aww - our population is too small.

Ignore reality, all you like, while the rest of us get on living in it, Bobby. Roll Eyes

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Melbourne and Sydney are 2 of the largest villages in the world -
they bear little resemblance to the great cities of the world
like London, Paris & New York.

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

Quote:

Melbourne still doesn't have a train line to the airport -
that is shocking urban planning.

Oh, I agree. See my previous comment just above this, Bobby. Only Adelaide and Canberra and to a lesser extent Perth are actually planned in Australia. All three lack an adequate transport system though. All Australian cities are overly reliant on the car for personal transport. Such a silly predicament, when fossil fuels are going out of fashion. Roll Eyes

You have put your finger on it, pearl-clutcher.

It is nothing but a fashion.

People find it more fashionable to live in a cooler climate than you, hey, Soren? Climate Denialist, added to your list of wacking, weirdo, hateful and foolish follies. Roll Eyes

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #34 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:07am:

Brian,
Quote:

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

You can go all over Paris on the Metro.
At the outskirts of Paris there are buses
to take you almost anywhere.
You can take the Metro all the way from Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport.
You arrive from deep underground - right at the departure area & only have to walk
less than 100 meters to check your baggage in.

Getting to the airport in Melbourne is a nightmare and
they charge you megabucks for parking.

There are no timetables in the Metro -
you never wait more than 2 minutes for a train.
It's absolutely wonderful compared to Melbourne.
Melbourne is like a swimming pool where you just keep
putting more chlorine in to mask out the stink.

No disagreement there, Bobby.

Well then, apologise to me.

For what?

For saying that London, Paris & New York were similar to Melbourne.

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #35 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:07am:

Brian,
Quote:

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

You can go all over Paris on the Metro.
At the outskirts of Paris there are buses
to take you almost anywhere.
You can take the Metro all the way from Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport.
You arrive from deep underground - right at the departure area & only have to walk
less than 100 meters to check your baggage in.

Getting to the airport in Melbourne is a nightmare and
they charge you megabucks for parking.

There are no timetables in the Metro -
you never wait more than 2 minutes for a train.
It's absolutely wonderful compared to Melbourne.
Melbourne is like a swimming pool where you just keep
putting more chlorine in to mask out the stink.

No disagreement there, Bobby.

Well then, apologise to me.

For what?

For saying that London, Paris & New York were similar to Melbourne.

They are, Bobby, they are. None of them was planned. Just as neither Sydney or Melbourne were ever planned in their development. They just happened. Roll Eyes

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #36 - Apr 13^th, 2019 at 9:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:05pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 9:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 7:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 4:15pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 3:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 8:25pm:

They are pulling down old houses everywhere and building boxes of air to house more immigrants. This is the only economy they have and they know it. But like all ponzi schemes they eventually fizzle out Wink

The problem is the roads.
they are even clogged on weekends yet alone at week day peak hours.

The Answer? Build more roads. Even better, build more train and tram lines... Get the people out of their cars and off the roads. Roll Eyes

It's too late - we should have built them 50 years ago.
When I was in Paris the first time in 1985 -
you could get a train to the airport &
go up a long escalator to the baggage check in -
you could take the TGV fast train from Paris to Lyon in only 2 hours -
I did both many times.
We haven't even reached that stage of advancement 34 years later.
I would say 50 years behind is about right and we didn't have to
rebuild our country after it was flattened in WW2.

Australians are the champions of mediocrity.

You are a victim of the politics of jealousy it appears, Bobby.

France is a small country, compared to Australia. VFT are not economic in Australia because of the distances and the relatively low passenger numbers. Rebuilding France was necessary after WWII, so they got rid of a lot of their old infrastructure. We have a lot still dating back to the turn of the 20th century. We could demolish Sydney and Melbourne and start again, I suppose. It'd be more economic in the long run... Roll Eyes

Just excuses from you -
typical Aussie excuses -
aww - Australia is too large -
aww - our population is too small.

Ignore reality, all you like, while the rest of us get on living in it, Bobby. Roll Eyes

Quote:

Melbourne and Sydney are 2 of the largest villages in the world -
they bear little resemblance to the great cities of the world
like London, Paris & New York.

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

Quote:

Melbourne still doesn't have a train line to the airport -
that is shocking urban planning.

Oh, I agree. See my previous comment just above this, Bobby. Only Adelaide and Canberra and to a lesser extent Perth are actually planned in Australia. All three lack an adequate transport system though. All Australian cities are overly reliant on the car for personal transport. Such a silly predicament, when fossil fuels are going out of fashion. Roll Eyes

You have put your finger on it, pearl-clutcher.

It is nothing but a fashion.

People find it more fashionable to live in a cooler climate than you, hey, Soren? Climate Denialist, added to your list of wacking, weirdo, hateful and foolish follies. Roll Eyes

As long as I am not tainted by being on your side in any argument I am assured of being correct, pearl-clutching old piss-soaked aunt. Whatever you pout about and disapprove of = must be right. You are a weather-wane of idiocy and reflex stupidity. You cannot ever be right. You are a reliable guide like that.
Karnalesque.

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #37 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 7:57am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:07am:

Brian,
Quote:

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

You can go all over Paris on the Metro.
At the outskirts of Paris there are buses
to take you almost anywhere.
You can take the Metro all the way from Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport.
You arrive from deep underground - right at the departure area & only have to walk
less than 100 meters to check your baggage in.

Getting to the airport in Melbourne is a nightmare and
they charge you megabucks for parking.

There are no timetables in the Metro -
you never wait more than 2 minutes for a train.
It's absolutely wonderful compared to Melbourne.
Melbourne is like a swimming pool where you just keep
putting more chlorine in to mask out the stink.

No disagreement there, Bobby.

Well then, apologise to me.

For what?

For saying that London, Paris & New York were similar to Melbourne.

They are, Bobby, they are. None of them was planned. Just as neither Sydney or Melbourne were ever planned in their development. They just happened. Roll Eyes

Brian,
That's rubbish.
Can you tell me that the grand boulevards of Paris were not planned?
Look up the Avenue des Champs-Élysées and get back to me.

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #38 - Apr 14^th, 2019 at 1:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:07am:

Brian,
Quote:

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

You can go all over Paris on the Metro.
At the outskirts of Paris there are buses
to take you almost anywhere.
You can take the Metro all the way from Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport.
You arrive from deep underground - right at the departure area & only have to walk
less than 100 meters to check your baggage in.

Getting to the airport in Melbourne is a nightmare and
they charge you megabucks for parking.

There are no timetables in the Metro -
you never wait more than 2 minutes for a train.
It's absolutely wonderful compared to Melbourne.
Melbourne is like a swimming pool where you just keep
putting more chlorine in to mask out the stink.

No disagreement there, Bobby.

Well then, apologise to me.

For what?

For saying that London, Paris & New York were similar to Melbourne.

They are, Bobby, they are. None of them was planned. Just as neither Sydney or Melbourne were ever planned in their development. They just happened. Roll Eyes

Brian,
That's rubbish.
Can you tell me that the grand boulevards of Paris were not planned?
Look up the Avenue des Champs-Élysées and get back to me.

Once you move away from les Grands Boulevards, Paris is a confusing web of narrow streets, alleys and so on, few meeting at right angles, just as Sydney and Melbourne are, Bobby. The les Grands Boulevards were planned, the rest just happened. Now, compare that to Adelaide, Perth and Canberra - particularly Canberra - the three most planned cities in Australia with broad avenues, streets that meet at right angles and few alleys. Funny that, Bobby. I suspect you've never lived outside of Melbourne, have you? Roll Eyes

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #39 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 1:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 8:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:13am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 13^th, 2019 at 10:07am:

Brian,
Quote:

Actually, they are remarkably similar - unplanned or poorly planned hodgepodges of a CBD surrounded by suburbs.

You can go all over Paris on the Metro.
At the outskirts of Paris there are buses
to take you almost anywhere.
You can take the Metro all the way from Paris to Charles de Gaulle airport.
You arrive from deep underground - right at the departure area & only have to walk
less than 100 meters to check your baggage in.

Getting to the airport in Melbourne is a nightmare and
they charge you megabucks for parking.

There are no timetables in the Metro -
you never wait more than 2 minutes for a train.
It's absolutely wonderful compared to Melbourne.
Melbourne is like a swimming pool where you just keep
putting more chlorine in to mask out the stink.

No disagreement there, Bobby.

Well then, apologise to me.

For what?

For saying that London, Paris & New York were similar to Melbourne.

They are, Bobby, they are. None of them was planned. Just as neither Sydney or Melbourne were ever planned in their development. They just happened. Roll Eyes

Brian,
That's rubbish.
Can you tell me that the grand boulevards of Paris were not planned?
Look up the Avenue des Champs-Élysées and get back to me.

Once you move away from les Grands Boulevards, Paris is a confusing web of narrow streets, alleys and so on, few meeting at right angles, just as Sydney and Melbourne are, Bobby. The les Grands Boulevards were planned, the rest just happened. Now, compare that to Adelaide, Perth and Canberra - particularly Canberra - the three most planned cities in Australia with broad avenues, streets that meet at right angles and few alleys. Funny that, Bobby. I suspect you've never lived outside of Melbourne, have you? Roll Eyes

That Paris is not like Adelaide, Perth and Canberra AND SO THAT IS SOMEHOW A SHORTCOMING OF PARIS is a novel argument only someone like you could advance, Bwian.

Haussmann re-designed and reconstituted Paris in the 19th century, erasing much of its medieval labyrinths and making is a much more controllable city.

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #40 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 10:40pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

That Paris is not like Adelaide, Perth and Canberra AND SO THAT IS SOMEHOW A SHORTCOMING OF PARIS is a novel argument only someone like you could advance, Bwian.

Haussmann re-designed and reconstituted Paris in the 19th century, erasing much of its medieval labyrinths and making is a much more controllable city.

Brian doesn't know -
I try to tell him but he won't listen.

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Reply #41 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 11:44pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

That Paris is not like Adelaide, Perth and Canberra AND SO THAT IS SOMEHOW A SHORTCOMING OF PARIS is a novel argument only someone like you could advance, Bwian.

Haussmann re-designed and reconstituted Paris in the 19th century, erasing much of its medieval labyrinths and making is a much more controllable city.

From your wikipedia article, Soren:

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/R%C3%A9alisationsUrbai...
The boulevards and streets built by Napoléon III and Haussmann during the Second Empire are shown in red. They also built the Bois de Boulogne park (green area on the left), the Bois de Vincennes park containing a zoo (green area on the right), the Parc des Buttes-Chaumont, the Parc Montsouris and dozens of smaller parks and squares.

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Re: 115,000 migrants in 1 month!
Reply #42 - Apr 17^th, 2019 at 11:48pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

That Paris is not like Adelaide, Perth and Canberra AND SO THAT IS SOMEHOW A SHORTCOMING OF PARIS is a novel argument only someone like you could advance, Bwian.

Haussmann re-designed and reconstituted Paris in the 19th century, erasing much of its medieval labyrinths and making is a much more controllable city.

From your wikipedia article, Soren:

Quote:

The boulevards and streets built by Napoléon III and Haussmann during the Second Empire are shown in red. They also built the Bois de Boulogne park (green area on the left), the Bois de Vincennes park containing a zoo (green area on the right), the Parc des Buttes-Chaumont, the Parc Montsouris and dozens of smaller parks and squares.

As I said, apart from the les Grand Boulevardes, Soren, Paris remained a hodgepodge of narrow streets, few which met at right angles...

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Reply #44 - Apr 18^th, 2019 at 12:18am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 12:04am:

Without immigrants Australia's economy would collapse.

Aussies now realise that's a fallacy

Same as 'bringing them in to do the jobs Aussies refuse to do'

and 'Skills shortage'

and 'Need them to pay for all the aged pensioners'

any more?

Comes with a warning: it better be good

Or … you could just say, Kalergi Plan

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