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Reply #45 - Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:34pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:25pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 9:55am:
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According to Muslims like Gandalf, most anti-Muslim violence is committed by Muslims.


After Christchurch, that's now changed, FD. 


No it hasn't. The Muslims have a pretty big head start.


Either way, muslims invariably end up as victims.




Evidently, mostly of other Muslims, if the facts are to be credited.

But what do Muslims like you and you bien pensant 'progressive hangers-on  harp on? 'Islamophobic' (a joke word for a joke idea) 'white supremacists', colonialists, Western hegemonists, wacists, wationalists - all the dead-beat SAIDian boilerplates.

You are not victims of anything but your own recalcitrant, pigheaded ideology. You have exported your perennial Islamic civil war to all the countries you have been allowed to migrate - that's the only new thing about Muslim violence.








I think what Gandalf is trying to do is get you to focus on the fact that Muslims are victims, and ignore the fact that in most cases they are the victim of Islam.
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Reply #46 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 2:12pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 6:16pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 9:55am:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
According to Muslims like Gandalf, most anti-Muslim violence is committed by Muslims.


After Christchurch, that's now changed, FD. 


No it hasn't. The Muslims have a pretty big head start.


Either way, muslims invariably end up as victims.

Muslims that you continue to stereotype and demonize as lazy and universal supporters of genocide


Ah, the victim card. What does it mean Gandalf?

Have non-Muslims also lost the right to speak their mind about Islam?


What does it mean? Muslims were victims of a frightening act of intimidation that put people's lives at risk. Thats what it means. I reckon this is a good example of muslims having the right to play the victim card - don't you think FD? Or does it somehow not count just because the perpetrator was allegedly a muslim?

Exactly what is the issue you have with me pointing out that muslims being the target of attacks by other muslims - produces "muslim victims"? Is it that it forces you to face the inconvenient truth that there are a heap of muslims out there that don't share the crazed and intolerant beliefs of the extremists - and furthermore they are killed because of it? I could see why that would make it more difficult for you to indiscriminately smear muslims en masse with hateful slurs like 'all muslims support genocide'.

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Reply #47 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 2:22pm
 
On a scale of 1- 10 how would we rate this dickheads' act of intimidation against the muzzies in the trucks and cars who actually run over and killed as many innocents as possible (including babies in prams or their mothers' arms)?

Whats the score for going to a childrens concert and slaughtering little kids by blowing yourself up? (truly allah loves those who go into battle without their armour)
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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #48 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 2:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 12th, 2019 at 6:25pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 9:55am:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
According to Muslims like Gandalf, most anti-Muslim violence is committed by Muslims.


After Christchurch, that's now changed, FD. 


No it hasn't. The Muslims have a pretty big head start.


Either way, muslims invariably end up as victims.




Evidently, mostly of other Muslims, if the facts are to be credited.

But what do Muslims like you and you bien pensant 'progressive hangers-on  harp on? 'Islamophobic' (a joke word for a joke idea) 'white supremacists', colonialists, Western hegemonists, wacists, wationalists - all the dead-beat SAIDian boilerplates.

You are not victims of anything but your own recalcitrant, pigheaded ideology. You have exported your perennial Islamic civil war to all the countries you have been allowed to migrate - that's the only new thing about Muslim violence.


Being victims of muslims doesn't make victims somehow become lesser victims.

As for white supremacists and wacists, these are the sort of people who lump all muslims - extremists, non-extremists, and even the extremist's victims, into the one basket - by blanket smearing them as all supporters of genocide, or all of them crazed, mentally disabled inbreds. Its this 'othering' cognitive process that causes an individual to think that a mosque full of muslims, none of whom he has ever met, must necessarily be guilty and are deserving of being shot to death as they pray peacefully. Its this othering that prompts someone just one day after such an attack to boldly declare that however terrible the shooting was, in any case muslims were to blame. And such an outrageous statement (and thankfully universally acknowledged as outrageous), is really not much of a step up from saying that the threat of Islamic terrorism in a given country is nothing more than a simple function of the number of muslims in that country - a sentiment that was rigorously defended here.

In case you are still unconvinced by what I am saying, let me spell it out more bluntly. According to whats been said here over the years, every one of the 50 victims at Christchurch were:

- supporters of genocide
- mentally disabled due to inbreeding
- had psychopathic tendencies
- lazy

and no doubt a whole heap of other stereotypes.

This is what Islamophobia does - it dehumanises actual victims and in the process gives dangerous succor to the Tarrants of this world. The scary truth here is that Tarrant could not have done what he did without dehumanizing muslims and expunging any ability he might have had for empathising with individuals who identified with the Islamic faith. How else do you arrive at the idea that its ok to shoot 100 or more completely random worshippers with the intent to kill them? The only way is to convince yourself that they are guilty - all of them. Most Islamophobes draw the line at killing, but it is very clear that the level of dehumanizing and 'othering' of muslims is the same. How else does someone so blithely and without a hint of shame declare that Christchurch was the fault of muslims? And the scary part is seeing how many people actually agree with him - despite the crocodile tears.
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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #49 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 2:54pm
 
moses wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 2:22pm:
On a scale of 1- 10 how would we rate this dickheads' act of intimidation against the muzzies in the trucks and cars who actually run over and killed as many innocents as possible (including babies in prams or their mothers' arms)?

Whats the score for going to a childrens concert and slaughtering little kids by blowing yourself up? (truly allah loves those who go into battle without their armour)


I think you guys need to exchange notes and get your memes straight here. Are we emphasising how bad this guy was because he was muslim, or are we downplaying the attack because the victims were muslim? You're a bit inconsistent at the moment...
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Reply #50 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:22pm
 
I'm saying this dickhead was a total idiot who apparently drove and skidded his car around a group of people.

How do his actions stack up against the muslims who drove their trucks and cars deliberately into crowds of people (including babies in prams and their mothers' arms) slaughtering as many as possible?

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Reply #51 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:40pm
 
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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #52 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:06pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
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And islamic apologists -- paid to post -- bastardise this free platform to push the relentless propaganda


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You know, I've been accused of that for over three decades but I'm yet to see a single cent.  Gee, I must have a whopper of a pay cheque in back pay from these mysterious people are claimed to pay me and other anti-Islamophobes...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #53 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:30pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
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And islamic apologists -- paid to post -- bastardise this free platform to push the relentless propaganda


If I was investing money to disseminate propaganda on this site, I think I'd be going through some pretty severe buyers remorse by now.
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Reply #54 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 2:12pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 6:16pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 9:55am:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:03pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 3:56pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
According to Muslims like Gandalf, most anti-Muslim violence is committed by Muslims.


After Christchurch, that's now changed, FD. 


No it hasn't. The Muslims have a pretty big head start.


Either way, muslims invariably end up as victims.

Muslims that you continue to stereotype and demonize as lazy and universal supporters of genocide


Ah, the victim card. What does it mean Gandalf?

Have non-Muslims also lost the right to speak their mind about Islam?


What does it mean? Muslims were victims of a frightening act of intimidation that put people's lives at risk. Thats what it means. I reckon this is a good example of muslims having the right to play the victim card - don't you think FD? Or does it somehow not count just because the perpetrator was allegedly a muslim?

Exactly what is the issue you have with me pointing out that muslims being the target of attacks by other muslims - produces "muslim victims"? Is it that it forces you to face the inconvenient truth that there are a heap of muslims out there that don't share the crazed and intolerant beliefs of the extremists - and furthermore they are killed because of it? I could see why that would make it more difficult for you to indiscriminately smear muslims en masse with hateful slurs like 'all muslims support genocide'.



You yourself once acknowledged that Muslims the world over have a victimhood complex problem. But here you are telling us we should focus on the fact that Muslims are the victims rather than the fact that they are the victims of Islam.

Have you ever met a Muslim who does not reflexively support genocide?

And where have I characterised these Muslim victims as lazy?
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Reply #55 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 2:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
You yourself once acknowledged that Muslims the world over have a victimhood complex problem.


Not the muslims who are actual victims. Again, why do you have a problem with me acknowledging real victims who are muslim? Are you going to say its because these victims "reflexively support genocide" - and subtly insinuate that they are somehow less deserving of claiming victim status? Would you like to smear the little 3 year old boy shot to death by Tarrant as a "reflexive supporter of genocide"? Well you already did - as per your next hateful slur rhetorical rhetorical question.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
Have you ever met a Muslim who does not reflexively support genocide?


That is a deliberate insult FD - literally no different to asking "have you ever met a muslim who is not a kvnt?"

*LITERALLY* no different, and you know it. And I will not demean myself by pretending it warrants a serious response.

This is just one of the ways you deliberately 'play dirty', and disrespect people by engaging in grubby ad-hominem - in a way that you think makes it look like you are not being grubby and disrespectful.

At least Frank is "out and proud" in the way he abuses people.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #56 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:40pm
 
Don't want to answer the question, eh? Typical Muslim.

FD had the same problem with Abu.
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Reply #57 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:31pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 2:59pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
You yourself once acknowledged that Muslims the world over have a victimhood complex problem.


Not the muslims who are actual victims. Again, why do you have a problem with me acknowledging real victims who are muslim? Are you going to say its because these victims "reflexively support genocide" - and subtly insinuate that they are somehow less deserving of claiming victim status? Would you like to smear the little 3 year old boy shot to death by Tarrant as a "reflexive supporter of genocide"? Well you already did - as per your next hateful slur rhetorical rhetorical question.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
Have you ever met a Muslim who does not reflexively support genocide?


That is a deliberate insult FD - literally no different to asking "have you ever met a Muslim who is not a kvnt?"

*LITERALLY* no different, and you know it. And I will not demean myself by pretending it warrants a serious response.

This is just one of the ways you deliberately 'play dirty', and disrespect people by engaging in grubby ad-hominem - in a way that you think makes it look like you are not being grubby and disrespectful.

At least Frank is "out and proud" in the way he abuses people.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Muslims burning people in cages is spiritual struggle.  Me saying they are fvking barbarians is 'out and proud' abuser.  Get a grip on something other than Karnal's pizzle.  Reality, for example.

You Muslims are cruel to each other and the 'infidel'  on account of your scriptures and Mo's example. Every time this is pointed out to you you start wanking the likes of Karnal/Said/buggeralled, pretending that that is somehow a counter-argument.

You Muslims have bought into the Western Marxist/fascist propaganda handbook because the results of those fvckers appeals to your sense of how the world should be. But you understand none of it. You committed battalions to Hitler because you understood nothing beyond 'kill the Jews'. You are sad, stupid clients of Western ideological currents because you are slovenly, unlettered, suspicious of and hostile to learning.

You Muslims have never read widely enough. Still don't.
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Reply #58 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 2:59pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
You yourself once acknowledged that Muslims the world over have a victimhood complex problem.


Not the muslims who are actual victims. Again, why do you have a problem with me acknowledging real victims who are muslim? Are you going to say its because these victims "reflexively support genocide" - and subtly insinuate that they are somehow less deserving of claiming victim status? Would you like to smear the little 3 year old boy shot to death by Tarrant as a "reflexive supporter of genocide"? Well you already did - as per your next hateful slur rhetorical rhetorical question.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
Have you ever met a Muslim who does not reflexively support genocide?


That is a deliberate insult FD - literally no different to asking "have you ever met a Muslim who is not a kvnt?"

*LITERALLY* no different, and you know it. And I will not demean myself by pretending it warrants a serious response.

This is just one of the ways you deliberately 'play dirty', and disrespect people by engaging in grubby ad-hominem - in a way that you think makes it look like you are not being grubby and disrespectful.

At least Frank is "out and proud" in the way he abuses people.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Muslims burning people in cages is spiritual struggle.  Me saying they are fvking barbarians is 'out and proud' abuser.  Get a grip on something other than Karnal's pizzle.  Reality, for example.

You Muslims are cruel to each other and the 'infidel'  on account of your scriptures and Mo's example. Every time this is pointed out to you you start wanking the likes of Karnal/Said/buggeralled, pretending that that is somehow a counter-argument.

You Muslims have bought into the Western Marxist/fascist propaganda handbook because the results of those fvckers appeals to your sense of how the world should be. But you understand none of it. You committed battalions to Hitler because you understood nothing beyond 'kill the Jews'. You are sad, stupid clients of Western ideological currents because you are slovenly, unlettered, suspicious of and hostile to learning.

You Muslims have never read widely enough. Still don't.


Always absolutely never ever.

You were committed to Herr Hitler yourself once too, no?
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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #59 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:56pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:31pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 2:59pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
You yourself once acknowledged that Muslims the world over have a victimhood complex problem.


Not the muslims who are actual victims. Again, why do you have a problem with me acknowledging real victims who are muslim? Are you going to say its because these victims "reflexively support genocide" - and subtly insinuate that they are somehow less deserving of claiming victim status? Would you like to smear the little 3 year old boy shot to death by Tarrant as a "reflexive supporter of genocide"? Well you already did - as per your next hateful slur rhetorical rhetorical question.

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:52pm:
Have you ever met a Muslim who does not reflexively support genocide?


That is a deliberate insult FD - literally no different to asking "have you ever met a Muslim who is not a kvnt?"

*LITERALLY* no different, and you know it. And I will not demean myself by pretending it warrants a serious response.

This is just one of the ways you deliberately 'play dirty', and disrespect people by engaging in grubby ad-hominem - in a way that you think makes it look like you are not being grubby and disrespectful.

At least Frank is "out and proud" in the way he abuses people.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Muslims burning people in cages is spiritual struggle.  Me saying they are fvking barbarians is 'out and proud' abuser.  Get a grip on something other than Karnal's pizzle.  Reality, for example.

You Muslims are cruel to each other and the 'infidel'  on account of your scriptures and Mo's example. Every time this is pointed out to you you start wanking the likes of Karnal/Said/buggeralled, pretending that that is somehow a counter-argument.

You Muslims have bought into the Western Marxist/fascist propaganda handbook because the results of those fvckers appeals to your sense of how the world should be. But you understand none of it. You committed battalions to Hitler because you understood nothing beyond 'kill the Jews'. You are sad, stupid clients of Western ideological currents because you are slovenly, unlettered, suspicious of and hostile to learning.

You Muslims have never read widely enough. Still don't.


Always absolutely never ever.

You were committed to Herr Hitler yourself once too, no?



Wanking, as you do, on every thread is still not a coherent argument, Paki shiteater. It's still just shiteating.

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