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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #165 - May 12^th, 2019 at 10:42pm

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 6:06pm:

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 4:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2019 at 11:16pm:

Actually, Slavery wasn't abolished in most of Europe until the 19th century, FD. Appears your ignorance is showing once again. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Slavery is STILL NOT abolished in Islam.

Actually, it isn't in Christianity, either, Soren. Both Christianity and Islam are religions, not nations, in case it's escaped your notice, young fellow me lad. Roll Eyes

Most Muslim countries have outlawed Slavery. Check out the source I linked to. It has a case by case list of when each country outlawed slavery - including the Muslim ones, Soren.

That is if you're willing to take off the blinkers that your Islamophobia has put before your eyes. Roll Eyes

Bollocks, Bwian, as usual.

Really? Care to demonstrate your knowledge of Christian theology and quote from the Bible where slavery is rejected, Soren? I look forward to you demonstrating your supposedly superior mental abilities. Off you trot. Get back to us when you've got an answer.

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Christian countries have outlawed slavery a long time ago.

Ah, Christian countries did that, did they, Soren? When did the Christian religion foresake Slavery, Mmmmm? Again, I challenge you to quote from the Bible the theology which supports your claim that Christianity - the religion - has gotten rid of slavery.

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Muslims still have sex slaves to this day in their 'caliphate' because it's Islamically permitted.

Some Muslims may, Soren but not all Muslims do. You detect the difference in the case of each set? Oh, that's right, you're innumerate, aren't you? You don't understand sets and subsets and supersets, do you? Roll Eyes

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Middle Eastern Arabs have subcontinental and Philippino slaves.

Some Middle Eastern Arabs do. Not all Middle Eastern Arabs do, Soren. Again, you detect the difference between the two sets? Or is this proving too difficult for you to understand because of your Islamophobia? Mmmm?

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Because it's not un-Islamic to have slaves - so they have them.

Do they? Really?

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And of course you are now eagerly siding with not only Islamic murderers, Bwian, but Islamic slavers. How about marriage at 9? You defend that islamic idea as well? Go on, you have sided with every other kind of barbarity, why not this one?

Is there any Islamic barbarity that you will not side with?
Name one, Bwian? Name one. Just one Islamic barbarity you openly reject.

You will simply refuse to name one because you know that from there on you will have to reject others if you wanted to be consistent. But consistency would ruin all your idiotic blabberings and so you will not find fault with any Islamic doctrine.

You are a confirmed spineless, squishy, lying cowardly bed-wetter - have I left out anything?

Poor, poor, Soren. You really are enjoying a good mud bath today, aren't you, little man? Tsk, tsk, look, run along back to your little kiddies' playground. The Adults want an Adult conversation, not some little snotty childish person screaming insults all the time. Roll Eyes

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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #166 - May 13^th, 2019 at 7:20am

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:16pm:

Muslims still have sex slaves to this day in their 'caliphate' because it's Islamically permitted

The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States [2] every year with 80% of those being women and children

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In terms of prevalence of modern slavery, North Korea tops the list at 104.6 per 1,000 people. The Philippines, meanwhile, ranked 30th overall (out of 167 countries) with 7.70 per 1,000 people. The Philippines is also considered to be highly vulnerable to modern slavery with an average score of 60.24, above the global and Asia Pacific averages of 45.6 and 46.1, respectively.

https://www.bworldonline.com/how-prevalent-is-modern-slavery-in-the-philippines/

Have you ever seen a Muslim say that slavery is inherently wrong?

Apart from G and, you know, Abu?

No, FD, I don't think I have. You?

Can you quote them?

Quote them saying something about slavery?

No, FD, I don't think I can.

You?

I remember Abu doing an elaborate tapdance about how slavery is no longer necessary. He tolerates the fact that foreigners intervened over the centuries in an effort to eradicate slavery in Muslim society. What else could he do? But he could not adopt the foreign notion that slavery is inherently wrong. It is just 'out of place' now that the world is trying to drag the middle east and north africa into modernity.

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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #167 - May 13^th, 2019 at 9:04am

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 7:20am:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:16pm:

Muslims still have sex slaves to this day in their 'caliphate' because it's Islamically permitted

The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States [2] every year with 80% of those being women and children

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In terms of prevalence of modern slavery, North Korea tops the list at 104.6 per 1,000 people. The Philippines, meanwhile, ranked 30th overall (out of 167 countries) with 7.70 per 1,000 people. The Philippines is also considered to be highly vulnerable to modern slavery with an average score of 60.24, above the global and Asia Pacific averages of 45.6 and 46.1, respectively.

https://www.bworldonline.com/how-prevalent-is-modern-slavery-in-the-philippines/

Have you ever seen a Muslim say that slavery is inherently wrong?

Apart from G and, you know, Abu?

No, FD, I don't think I have. You?

Can you quote them?

Quote them saying something about slavery?

No, FD, I don't think I can.

You?

I remember Abu doing an elaborate tapdance about how slavery is no longer necessary. He tolerates the fact that foreigners intervened over the centuries in an effort to eradicate slavery in Muslim society. What else could he do? But he could not adopt the foreign notion that slavery is inherently wrong. It is just 'out of place' now that the world is trying to drag the middle east and north africa into modernity.

Sounds to me like Abu's stating the bleedingly obvious.

But I doubt he conceded that "foreigners" intervened to stop slavery. They were, after all, the market for slaves until the 19th century.

Many of those foreign anti-slavery advocates had slaves themselves.

It's impossible to say anything"s inherently right or wrong without reference to the prevailing zeitgeist- the spirit of the times. This includes killing traitors in a war, marrying orphans, worshipping a sinister moon god, squatting down to pee and playing with your dick afterwards, and yes, slavery.

Sometimes this is a challenge. You can feel most pissed off at the idea of some things. For me, it's torture and execution.

But I understand these things played a crucial role in their time.

You?

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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #168 - May 13^th, 2019 at 3:08pm

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:16pm:

Muslims still have sex slaves to this day in their 'caliphate' because it's Islamically permitted

The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States [2] every year with 80% of those being women and children

...............

In terms of prevalence of modern slavery, North Korea tops the list at 104.6 per 1,000 people. The Philippines, meanwhile, ranked 30th overall (out of 167 countries) with 7.70 per 1,000 people. The Philippines is also considered to be highly vulnerable to modern slavery with an average score of 60.24, above the global and Asia Pacific averages of 45.6 and 46.1, respectively.

https://www.bworldonline.com/how-prevalent-is-modern-slavery-in-the-philippines/

Have you ever seen a Muslim say that slavery is inherently wrong?

The makings of another brilliant thread title/meme.

All muslims support....

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #169 - May 13^th, 2019 at 3:13pm

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:16pm:

Muslims still have sex slaves to this day in their 'caliphate' because it's Islamically permitted

The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States [2] every year with 80% of those being women and children

...............

In terms of prevalence of modern slavery, North Korea tops the list at 104.6 per 1,000 people. The Philippines, meanwhile, ranked 30th overall (out of 167 countries) with 7.70 per 1,000 people. The Philippines is also considered to be highly vulnerable to modern slavery with an average score of 60.24, above the global and Asia Pacific averages of 45.6 and 46.1, respectively.

https://www.bworldonline.com/how-prevalent-is-modern-slavery-in-the-philippines/

Have you ever seen a Muslim say that slavery is inherently wrong?

Apart from G and, you know, Abu?

No, FD, I don't think I have. You?

Can you quote them?

Quote them saying something about slavery?

No, FD, I don't think I can.

You?

FD doesn't have to K. All he has to do is post the rhetorical question "have you ever heard a muslim etc etc" - and hey presto, muslims can be whatever you want them to be

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Another Islamophobe attacks...
Reply #170 - May 13^th, 2019 at 4:14pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

Karnal wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2019 at 7:16pm:

Muslims still have sex slaves to this day in their 'caliphate' because it's Islamically permitted

The practices of slavery and human trafficking are still prevalent in modern America with estimated 17,500 foreign nationals and 400,000 Americans being trafficked into and within the United States [2] every year with 80% of those being women and children

...............

In terms of prevalence of modern slavery, North Korea tops the list at 104.6 per 1,000 people. The Philippines, meanwhile, ranked 30th overall (out of 167 countries) with 7.70 per 1,000 people. The Philippines is also considered to be highly vulnerable to modern slavery with an average score of 60.24, above the global and Asia Pacific averages of 45.6 and 46.1, respectively.

https://www.bworldonline.com/how-prevalent-is-modern-slavery-in-the-philippines/

Have you ever seen a Muslim say that slavery is inherently wrong?

Apart from G and, you know, Abu?

No, FD, I don't think I have. You?

Can you quote them?

Quote them saying something about slavery?

No, FD, I don't think I can.

You?

FD doesn't have to K. All he has to do is post the rhetorical question "have you ever heard a muslim etc etc" - and hey presto, muslims can be whatever you want them to be

That's true, you know. How do we know there aren't Muslims who support slavery? Anything's possible.

FD's also free to cite the sinister Abu.

After all, how do we know he doesn't support slavery? Abu doesn't post here anymore.

Google: taqiyya.

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Reply #171 - May 13^th, 2019 at 6:51pm

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But I doubt he conceded that "foreigners" intervened to stop slavery. They were, after all, the market for slaves until the 19th century.

Would you agree with Abu on that?

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It's impossible to say anything"s inherently right or wrong without reference to the prevailing zeitgeist- the spirit of the times.

Crap. I do not reference any zeitgeist when I say that slavery is inherently wrong.

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But I understand these things played a crucial role in their time.

So did Hitler's gas chambers. That does not have to lead to confusion about whether they were inherently wrong.

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The makings of another brilliant thread title/meme.
All muslims support....

Thanks Gandalf. I'll wait till I get a straight answer.

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Reply #172 - May 13^th, 2019 at 10:56pm

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2019 at 6:51pm:

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But I doubt he conceded that "foreigners" intervened to stop slavery. They were, after all, the market for slaves until the 19th century.

Would you agree with Abu on that?

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It's impossible to say anything"s inherently right or wrong without reference to the prevailing zeitgeist- the spirit of the times.

Crap. I do not reference any zeitgeist when I say that slavery is inherently wrong.

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But I understand these things played a crucial role in their time.

So did Hitler's gas chambers. That does not have to lead to confusion about whether they were inherently wrong.

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The makings of another brilliant thread title/meme.
All muslims support....

Thanks Gandalf. I'll wait till I get a straight answer.

Do you have a specific question?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98944	Re: Another Islamophobe attacks... Reply #174 - May 14^th, 2019 at 8:25am freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2019 at 7:11am: Did foreigners intervene to stop slavery in the Muslim world? They stopped buying slaves, you mean?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: Another Islamophobe attacks... Reply #175 - May 14^th, 2019 at 8:57am No, but by all means, keep dodging.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98944	Re: Another Islamophobe attacks... Reply #176 - May 14^th, 2019 at 3:52pm freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2019 at 8:57am: No, but by all means, keep dodging. What sound does a jellyfish make?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Another Islamophobe attacks... Reply #177 - May 14^th, 2019 at 6:15pm The west rose to the top of the economic and military food chain on the back of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen. Then they grew a sudden and miraculous conscience about the evils of slavery. freedom innit
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 52837 Gender:	Re: Another Islamophobe attacks... Reply #178 - May 14^th, 2019 at 7:38pm polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2019 at 6:15pm: The west rose to the top of the economic and military food chain on the back of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen. Then they grew a sudden and miraculous conscience about the evils of slavery. freedom innit Idiotic, envious, baseless crap.
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Reply #179 - May 14^th, 2019 at 8:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2019 at 6:15pm:

The west rose to the top of the economic and military food chain on the back of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen.

Then they grew a sudden and miraculous conscience about the evils of slavery.

freedom innit

Innit. Does that answer your question, FD?

G, you see, is a Muslim.

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