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Feb 26^th, 2019 at 10:48am

A 26-year-old has man has become the fifth person arrested over a violent brawl which left police officers injured in Melbourne’s south.
The group had been celebrating a 30th birthday on Fitzroy Street when its alleged Potts kneed a woman in the genitals, before breaking away from police multiple times as they attempted to apprehend him.
His sister then allegedly belted one of the officers in the head as he tried to arrest Potts and was subsequently struck with a policeman's torch, leaving her bleeding heavily from the face.

Soon after, Mr O’Donnell is accused of viciously slamming one of the officer’s head into the concrete six times.

The group were arrested Sunday night and charged with two counts of assault police, affray, violent disorder, intentionally cause injury and other assault related offences.

The two officers involved in the incident have since been released from hospital suffering lacerations and bruising.
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/02/24/15/27/news-melbourne-two-police-officers-inj...

Strangely the usual suspects on this forum haven't posted this.
Maybe it's because the perpetrators look like this:

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Reply #1 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 11:34am

You are referring to black African crime Barnacle.

What is concerning people is that the blacks are way over represented in this sort of crime as statistics show.
What is even more concerning is that we continue to import these people as if there is "nothing to see here".

Yes it was sickening to watch and the perpetrators should have been shot dead, that cop was lucky not to be dead himself.

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Reply #2 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 11:44am

The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 10:48am:

A 26-year-old has man has become the fifth person arrested over a violent brawl which left police officers injured in Melbourne’s south.
The group had been celebrating a 30th birthday on Fitzroy Street when its alleged Potts kneed a woman in the genitals, before breaking away from police multiple times as they attempted to apprehend him.
His sister then allegedly belted one of the officers in the head as he tried to arrest Potts and was subsequently struck with a policeman's torch, leaving her bleeding heavily from the face.

Soon after, Mr O’Donnell is accused of viciously slamming one of the officer’s head into the concrete six times.

The group were arrested Sunday night and charged with two counts of assault police, affray, violent disorder, intentionally cause injury and other assault related offences.

The two officers involved in the incident have since been released from hospital suffering lacerations and bruising.
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/02/24/15/27/news-melbourne-two-police-officers-inj...

Strangely the usual suspects on this forum haven't posted this.
Maybe it's because the perpetrators look like this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/2ptxea9.jpg

Yep, the usual suspects.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1543462080

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: sickening mob attack on police Reply #3 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 12:09pm Police brutality - white woman smashed in head with metal torch by police
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Reply #4 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:20pm

It shouldn't matter what race, sex or any other group identity is involved. Once a society starts turning on it's first responders without apparent fear of consequences it is a short trip to anarchy. The eventual step is first reponders becoming too fearful to actually aid those in need when it becomes too dangerous and then a society heads down the path of being at the mercy of real crime gangs (think Mafia, Crime Cabals, and certain country examples some might be able to think of.) The police must be above and beyond being manhandled in any way.
The blonde female does not get any sympathy at all from me.
Too often I have seen these types who now believe they can abuse their position by acting as an aggressive male whilst being protected from the usually demanded for equal treatment. If you are among a bunch of drunk aggressive arses-holes, probably drunk and loud-mouthed yourself and then step in and hit an officer, you should be treated just as the aggressive male you are attempting and demanding to be treated equally to.
It should be automatic prison terms for anyone found guilty of assaulting a police officer.

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Johnnie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12485 Gender:	Re: sickening mob attack on police Reply #5 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:25pm It looks as if the cop gave her two black eyes as well, she might think twice next time.
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Reply #6 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:29pm

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

It shouldn't matter what race, sex or any other group identity is involved. Once a society starts turning on it's first responders without apparent fear of consequences it is a short trip to anarchy. The eventual step is first reponders becoming too fearful to actually aid those in need when it becomes too dangerous and then a society heads down the path of being at the mercy of real crime gangs (think Mafia, Crime Cabals, and certain country examples some might be able to think of.) The police must be above and beyond being manhandled in any way.
The blonde female does not get any sympathy at all from me.
Too often I have seen these types who now believe they can abuse their position by acting as an aggressive male whilst being protected from the usually demanded for equal treatment. If you are among a bunch of drunk aggressive arses-holes, probably drunk and loud-mouthed yourself and then step in and hit an officer, you should be treated just as the aggressive male you are attempting and demanding to be treated equally to.
It should be automatic prison terms for anyone found guilty of assaulting a police officer.

Can't agree with that at all.

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Reply #7 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:29pm:

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

It shouldn't matter what race, sex or any other group identity is involved. Once a society starts turning on it's first responders without apparent fear of consequences it is a short trip to anarchy. The eventual step is first reponders becoming too fearful to actually aid those in need when it becomes too dangerous and then a society heads down the path of being at the mercy of real crime gangs (think Mafia, Crime Cabals, and certain country examples some might be able to think of.) The police must be above and beyond being manhandled in any way.
The blonde female does not get any sympathy at all from me.
Too often I have seen these types who now believe they can abuse their position by acting as an aggressive male whilst being protected from the usually demanded for equal treatment. If you are among a bunch of drunk aggressive arses-holes, probably drunk and loud-mouthed yourself and then step in and hit an officer, you should be treated just as the aggressive male you are attempting and demanding to be treated equally to.
It should be automatic prison terms for anyone found guilty of assaulting a police officer.

Can't agree with that at all.

What would be your suggested punishment for someone found guilty of assaulting yourself whilst on the job? You know someone walking up and punching you in the head, with all the possible ramifications of that including one punch possibilities. A drunk, aggreser, walks up to you whilst you are at work and straight out hits you over the head. Does it depend on the outcome in your mind?
The text you highlight needs to be read and understood. I didn't say guilty of resisting arrest or even being a loud mouthed, drunken, imbecile should mean automatic jail. I said anyone found GUILTY of ASSAULT on police officers, as defined within our Australian justice system. (that despite it's faults is comparatively one of the better systems excluding the dogs breakfast that is family law), should be jailed. I believe, in some states that used to actually be the case.

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Reply #8 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:05pm

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:29pm:

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

It shouldn't matter what race, sex or any other group identity is involved. Once a society starts turning on it's first responders without apparent fear of consequences it is a short trip to anarchy. The eventual step is first reponders becoming too fearful to actually aid those in need when it becomes too dangerous and then a society heads down the path of being at the mercy of real crime gangs (think Mafia, Crime Cabals, and certain country examples some might be able to think of.) The police must be above and beyond being manhandled in any way.
The blonde female does not get any sympathy at all from me.
Too often I have seen these types who now believe they can abuse their position by acting as an aggressive male whilst being protected from the usually demanded for equal treatment. If you are among a bunch of drunk aggressive arses-holes, probably drunk and loud-mouthed yourself and then step in and hit an officer, you should be treated just as the aggressive male you are attempting and demanding to be treated equally to.
It should be automatic prison terms for anyone found guilty of assaulting a police officer.

Can't agree with that at all.

What would be the your suggested punishment for someone found guilty of assaulting yourself whilst on the job. You know someone walking up and punching you in the head, with all the possible ramifications of that including one punch possibilities. A drunk, aggreser, walks up to you whilst you are at work and straight out hits you over the head. Does it depend on the outcome in your mind?
the text you highlight needs to be read and understood. I didn't say guilty of resisting arrest or even being a loud mouthed, drunken, imbecile should mean jail. I said anyone found GUILTY of ASSAULT on police officers within our Australian justice system. (that despite it's faults is comparatively one of the better systems excluding the dogs breakfast that is family law), should be jailed. I believe, in some states that used to actually be the case.

I don't agree with mandatory sentencing, under any circumstances.

Hypothetical:

I see a police officer in uniform beating and/or sexually abusing a child.

I go over and assault him in order to stop the attack on the child.

Under your system, I'm sent to jail.

Ridiculous.

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Reply #9 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:09pm

The cops were very scathing about about what those whities did

But the police hardly said a thing when a Sudanese darkie kicked a cop in the head, and it was premeditated

The detective and police prosecutor told the magistrate the teenager kicked the officer while the policeman was on his knees arresting another teen for allegedly shoplifting. They said the assault was premeditated and against a vulnerable target.

"He harboured a hatred towards police and he stated he had been biding his time," the detective told the court on Tuesday.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/why-court-released-teen-accused-of-k...

The only thing the cops were concerned about was the teen got bail, not the cop who got kicked in the head

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Tally Full Member Offline Posts: 116 Gender:	Re: sickening mob attack on police Reply #10 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:10pm This is an interesting case. I have a feeling the violence escalated after the man saw his wife, the mother of his child with blood streaming down her face.
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Reply #11 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:05pm:

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:29pm:

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

It shouldn't matter what race, sex or any other group identity is involved. Once a society starts turning on it's first responders without apparent fear of consequences it is a short trip to anarchy. The eventual step is first reponders becoming too fearful to actually aid those in need when it becomes too dangerous and then a society heads down the path of being at the mercy of real crime gangs (think Mafia, Crime Cabals, and certain country examples some might be able to think of.) The police must be above and beyond being manhandled in any way.
The blonde female does not get any sympathy at all from me.
Too often I have seen these types who now believe they can abuse their position by acting as an aggressive male whilst being protected from the usually demanded for equal treatment. If you are among a bunch of drunk aggressive arses-holes, probably drunk and loud-mouthed yourself and then step in and hit an officer, you should be treated just as the aggressive male you are attempting and demanding to be treated equally to.
It should be automatic prison terms for anyone found guilty of assaulting a police officer.

Can't agree with that at all.

What would be the your suggested punishment for someone found guilty of assaulting yourself whilst on the job. You know someone walking up and punching you in the head, with all the possible ramifications of that including one punch possibilities. A drunk, aggreser, walks up to you whilst you are at work and straight out hits you over the head. Does it depend on the outcome in your mind?
the text you highlight needs to be read and understood. I didn't say guilty of resisting arrest or even being a loud mouthed, drunken, imbecile should mean jail. I said anyone found GUILTY of ASSAULT on police officers within our Australian justice system. (that despite it's faults is comparatively one of the better systems excluding the dogs breakfast that is family law), should be jailed. I believe, in some states that used to actually be the case.

I don't agree with mandatory sentencing, under any circumstances.

Hypothetical:

I see a police officer in uniform beating and/or sexually abusing a child.

I go over and assault him in order to stop the attack on the child.

Under your system, I'm sent to jail.

Ridiculous.

No, not at all. That is the type of emotional, extreme argument put out by some from either side of the left or right that we really need to get away from. You would not be found guilty of assault by any Australian court system in that scenario. It is a straw man, emotional argument construct and as such beneath you or any genuine consideration.
If an Australian judge or jury finds an individual guilty of ASSAULT on a POLICE OFFICER they must go to jail, go directly to jail and not pass go. It must be embedded throughout society that you do not touch a police officer aggressively. This is not some third world country without effective courts and legal systems. If people want that then they should move.

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Reply #12 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:19pm

Tally wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

This is an interesting case. I have a feeling the violence escalated after the man saw his wife, the mother of his child with blood streaming down her face.

I have a feeling she copped the hit with the torch for physically interfering with an arrest or she got in the road and was struck as a consequence.

No sympathy from me ..... they're feckin animals.

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Reply #13 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:20pm

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:05pm:

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:29pm:

goosecat wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 1:20pm:

It shouldn't matter what race, sex or any other group identity is involved. Once a society starts turning on it's first responders without apparent fear of consequences it is a short trip to anarchy. The eventual step is first reponders becoming too fearful to actually aid those in need when it becomes too dangerous and then a society heads down the path of being at the mercy of real crime gangs (think Mafia, Crime Cabals, and certain country examples some might be able to think of.) The police must be above and beyond being manhandled in any way.
The blonde female does not get any sympathy at all from me.
Too often I have seen these types who now believe they can abuse their position by acting as an aggressive male whilst being protected from the usually demanded for equal treatment. If you are among a bunch of drunk aggressive arses-holes, probably drunk and loud-mouthed yourself and then step in and hit an officer, you should be treated just as the aggressive male you are attempting and demanding to be treated equally to.
It should be automatic prison terms for anyone found guilty of assaulting a police officer.

Can't agree with that at all.

What would be the your suggested punishment for someone found guilty of assaulting yourself whilst on the job. You know someone walking up and punching you in the head, with all the possible ramifications of that including one punch possibilities. A drunk, aggreser, walks up to you whilst you are at work and straight out hits you over the head. Does it depend on the outcome in your mind?
the text you highlight needs to be read and understood. I didn't say guilty of resisting arrest or even being a loud mouthed, drunken, imbecile should mean jail. I said anyone found GUILTY of ASSAULT on police officers within our Australian justice system. (that despite it's faults is comparatively one of the better systems excluding the dogs breakfast that is family law), should be jailed. I believe, in some states that used to actually be the case.

I don't agree with mandatory sentencing, under any circumstances.

Hypothetical:

I see a police officer in uniform beating and/or sexually abusing a child.

I go over and assault him in order to stop the attack on the child.

Under your system, I'm sent to jail.

Ridiculous.

No, not at all. That is the type of emotional, extreme argument put out by some from either side of the left or right that we really need to get away from. You would not be found guilty of assault by any Australian court system in that scenario.

How do you know that?

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Reply #14 - Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:22pm

Tally wrote on Feb 26^th, 2019 at 2:10pm:

This is an interesting case. I have a feeling the violence escalated after the man saw his wife, the mother of his child with blood streaming down her face.

So was the one about this darkie, very interesting, the darkie walked free. Kicked a cop and received no conviction

The teenager, who cannot be named, was granted bail and was later put on a nine-month probation order without conviction.

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/calculated-cheap-shot-cop-can-t-forg...

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